Champions Cup Pool 3: Glasgow Warriors v Northampton Saints, 21 November

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Glasgow Warriors v Northampton Saints
Saturday 21 November 2015
KO: 17:15
Scotstoun, Glasgow

Live on Sky Sports / beIN Sports

Referee Pascal Gauzere (France)
Touch Judge 1 Maxime Chalon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Jean-Luc Rebollal (France)
Fourth Official Stephen Ward (Scotland)
TMO Gilles Cogne (France)

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
2 Wins 4
4 Losses 2
0 Draws 0
114 Points 147

B. Recent Form

19 January 2013
Glasgow 27 - 20 Northampton

14 October 2012
Northampton 24 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

C. Teams

Glasgow Warriors

15 Stuart Hogg
14 Tommy Seymour
13 Mark Bennett
12 Peter Horne
11 Sean Lamont
10 Finn Russell
09 Mike Blair

01 Ryan Grant
02 Pat MacArthur
03 Sila Puafisi
04 Leone Nakarawa
05 Jonny Gray (capt)
06 Robert Harley
07 Simone Favaro
08 Josh Strauss

16 Shalva Mamukashvili
17 Gordon Reid
18 Zander Fagerson
19 Tim Swinson
20 Ryan Wilson
21 Grayson Hart
22 Richie Vernon
23 Taqele Naiyaravoro

Northampton Saints

15 Ben Foden
14 Ah See Tuala
13 George Pisi
12 Luther Burrell
11 George North
10 Steve Myler
09 Lee Dickson (capt)

01 Alex Waller
02 Mikey Haywood
03 Kieran Brookes
04 Michael Paterson
05 Christian Day
06 Jamie Gibson
07 Tom Wood
08 Sam Dickinson

16 Matti Williams
17 Ethan Waller
18 Paul Hill
19 Jonathan Fisher
20 Teimana Harrison
21 Kahn Fotuali'i
22 JJ Hanrahan
23 Jamie Elliott

Aaaand that was shocking. Never mind then, focus on the PRO12 lads. Fed up of this.

Starting to feel like last year was Glasgow's high water mark. Terrible set piece. Gray has to try and take control of this.

Ineffable wrote:Anyone else turned the commentary off already? Listening to them talking about how great England have been in Europe so far already boring me

Barnes is always painful to listen to whoever's playing tbh ...

Can't get a live feed here, only text updates.

Are we just playing like a bunch of donkeys. The front row is the only thing which is different from last season, so presumably that's the problem. We knew that letting Euan Murray retire and Jon Welsh leave for the Jeff was risky, and so it seems to be proving.

Saints are man shaming us up front. Glsgow are Frak awful.

george - you got pm

Well, we know that Reid is better than Grant and this is the sort of game where young Fagerson will learn a lot if he is asked to come on and shore this up.

This was always a possibility with this Saints pack, though. I think that having Peterson instead of Swinson and Favaro instead of Wilson on the bench would have been a smarter move. We need the increased bulk that each of these guys would have brought.

TJ wrote:george - you got pm

You're a gent and a scholar.

And we seem to be down by quite a large amount at half time.

It's certainly not pretty. I have had cars who don't reverse as quickly as our scrum. Hate to say this, but we will be lucky to get a LBP.

Poor, poor first half from Glasgow. It's not just the scrums, we are just playing badly across the park. Missed tackles, poor kicking and an inability to hold onto the ball.

Need a much better 2nsd half or the European season ends here!

Reg really needs to consider a card for the saints

cakeordeath wrote:Reg really needs to consider a card for the saints

Nah, yellow cards are reserved for those circumstances where the offending team is clearly being punished enough, not offences that cynically kill of the game ...

How did they miss that forward pass

It's certainly becoming the worst weekend in living memory for our Pro12 teams competing in Europe. It will get a lot worse tomorrow when Clermont spank the Ospreys. What is going on?

cakeordeath wrote:How did they miss that forward pass

Again, forward passes / offside kicks etc all reserved for special circumstances that shall not be known to the teams or public

In all fairness we are playing like plebs and deserve to be behind. Northampton have done their homework and are storming this.

Still no card. Penalty advantage another penalty flref gives them a warning. Ffs

And another penalty in their 5

Here comes the cavalry. Wilson, Reid and Big Tacky on.

At last

Come on Toonies. Give us all a glimour of hope.

Northampton very cynical in the red zone, one yellow card to show for it, but the ref seems fine with just awarding the penalties and not giving any further warnings. Not very happy about that tbh

On a wider note, anyone else's pet hate when someone wants to quick take and the ref just doesn't let them? Right on 5m line there, why on earth not???

Northampton looking good when rampaging forward.

We really need to at least get a LBP here or it does not bode well for yet another European season.

Gotta say Northampton are the better team. Very disappointing. We'll never do well in Europe till we have a descent front 5

Blimey..

ouch

How was that not illegal, the only question there is what colour the card should be!

Shoulder to the face is no legal apparently

Utter Love sacks today. Fair play Northampton. Came up with a plan and won with it.

Great result for Northampton - I really thought Glasgow would win that one.

Bad, bad result for us. Well done Saints.

Remember what Glasgow fans were saying at the end of last season about the gaping holes in the front row...?

What a disappointing performance. Always playing catch up and nothing going our way at all.

Well done Saints, played a smart game and took chances well. I hope we can play better in the return leg

Some interview by Johnny Gray there...

What did we get out of that....erm we gotta go back to training and work hard.

What's happened to Ryan Grant? A shadow of the man we saw in 2013 6Ns

LondonTiger wrote:What's happened to Ryan Grant? A shadow of the man we saw in 2013 6Ns

Rowntree ruined him on the Lions tour.

Well done to the Saints they played some great rugby. The scoreline flattered Glaagow

I think Grant needs to move on. Some premiership rugby would do him good

Missed the game - anyone care to summarise?

A real uphill battle for Glasgow now.

Saints were far too strong for us up front. Glasgow looked like they had met in the car park 5 minutes before the game. The only highlight was we seemed to achieve parity in the scrums when shrek and fargerson came on. I also thought Hart played well although I that point I had started cooking dinner.

I don't understand why Glasgow spurned the kicks for goal - they would have secured a bonus point and at the very least kept the game alive in the last 5 minutes.
Russell had a bit of a mare but that's all part of the learning curve.

George Carlin wrote:Bad, bad result for us. Well done Saints.

Remember what Glasgow fans were saying at the end of last season about the gaping holes in the front row...?

GC, who is the genius that signed Puafisi? The guy is utterly useless and it was all there to see when he was scrummaging on his arse against Dickinson with Gloucester.

Glasgow should really have kept DeKlerc, regardless of what happened (no big deal imo..), he was at the end of the day Glasgow best tighthead by some margin. Cusack? Don't make me laugh the poor lad can't be relied upon, and even when fit he showed he doesn't really cut the mustard anymore with the new rules.

Heads should be rolling at Glasgow for overlooking the number 3 position, arguably the most important one in rugby union.

Looking at the stats Glasgow should have won that - by far and away leading territy possession and M runand made a lot more ground and breaks. Too many mistakes tho and giving away soft tries so in the end Saints deserved to win simply by not making the mistakes so much at such critical times

I don't think that the 2 week break helped us - looked from what I saw of the second half that we were completely lacking in any sort of precision and execution. The whole team looked out of sorts and nobody looked sharp.

Signing Puafisi always seemed to be a bit of an afterthought after De Klerk went. Just a shame that tighthead is so difficult to get quality people although it does seem as though the Warriors staff dropped the ball on cover in this position generally. Letting Brian Mujati sign for Sale seemed very silly when someone of that quality became available. Nobody at the Cherries really shed any tears when Puafisi left, something that should have raised red flags in its own right. Young Zander is a massive prospect but this is really his first complete pro season and he's going to need time.

Jacobie Adriaanse left the Scarlets too and is a decent scrummager and was important in Samson Lee 1st year as a pro at the Scarlets, would have been a good mentor for Zander. Manasa Saulo is still playing in Romania untill the end of the season, he shored up succesfully the usually weak Fijian scrum and with Yanu and Nakarawa already there he would have been a great signing. Though banned until december and signed by Toulouse for next season.

There were some options available but Glasgow picked the worst possible one and there is no excuse in that.

John Welsh would be a much better option too but he was let go.

To think what Glasgow could achieve if they had Edinburgh's front row!

RDW_Scotland wrote:John Welsh would be a much better option too but he was let go.

To think what Glasgow could achieve if they had Edinburgh's front row!

I have a feeling with Jon Welsh that he wanted a change as he had never really pin down the starting shirt here and with De klerk coming into the form he was at the tail end of last season, he was still not going to.

De Klerk really did let us down and once he had to go, and I think that he did have to go, we were more than a bit stuffed.

Trying to pick up a good TH at that stay of the season was always going to be near impossible, remember we needed him before the WC was over.

And Geoff Cross, Moray Low..
Don't let players go if you don't have suitable options lined up.

Yeah Glasgow only wish they had the Edinburgh scrum (and pack while you are at it). At least the 1872 should be fun for Edinburgh fans

Unless by some miracle Big Mike rediscovers his form of old, this has really got to be our main priority for next season. It is a lot to rely on Fargerson at his tender years.

Even with DeKlerk still around i still think Glasgow needed another tighthead.

Don't bring Javan Sebastian please, he couldn't quite make it at the Scarlets why would he make it at Glasgow?