Champions Cup Pool 4: Munster v Leicester Tigers, 12 December

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Munster Rugby v Leicester Tigers
Saturday 12 December 2015
KO: 19:45
Thomond Park, Limerick

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 Tual Trainini (France)
Touch Judge 2 Laurent Breil (France)
Fourth Official Ken Imbusch (Ireland)
TMO Gilles Cogne (France)

A. Head to Head

4 Played 4
2 Wins 2
2 Losses 2
0 Draws 0
56 Points 54

B. Recent Form

27 August 2010
Munster 13-17 Leicester

20 January 2007
Munster 6 - 13 Leicester

22 Oct 2006
Leicester 19 - 21 Munster  

13 April 2003
Leicester 7 - 20 Munster

25 May 2002
Leicester 15 - 9 Munster

C. Teams
Munster Rugby

15 Andrew Conway, 14 Keith Earls, 13 Francis Saili, 12 Denis Hurley, 11 Simon Zebo, 10 Ian Keatley, 9 Conor Murray, 1 James Cronin, 2 Niall Scannell, 3 BJ Botha, 4 Dave Foley, 5 Donnacha Ryan, 6 Robin Copeland, 7 Dave O'Callaghan, 8 CJ Stander (c).

Replacements: Mike Sherry, Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Mark Chisholm, Jack O'Donoghue, Tomás O'Leary, Tyler Bleyendaal, Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino.

Leicester Tigers

15 Telusa Veainu, 14 Adam Thompstone, 13 Matt Smith, 12 Seremaia Bai, 11 Vereniki Goneva, 10 Owen Williams, 9 Ben Youngs, 1 Marcos Ayerza, 2 Tom Youngs, 3 Dan Cole, 4 Graham Kitchener, 5 Mike Fitzgerald, 6 Ed Slater (c), 7 Brendon O'Connor, 8 Lachlan McCaffrey.

Replacements: 16 Harry Thacker, 17 Matias Aguero, 18 Fraser Balmain, 19 Dom Barrow, 20 Tom Croft, 21 Sam Harrison, 22 Tommy Bell, 23 Gonzalo Camacho.

eirebilly wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:I wouldn't like to see the bollocking Keatley is getting on Munsterfans right now

No more than usual, I have long said that Munster will win nothing with Keatley.

Foley will never live down letting go of Hanrahan, awful man management.

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Inability to stop a 20m maul had no effect on the try?

How did JJ play for Saints today?

LeinsterFan4life wrote:

eirebilly wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:I wouldn't like to see the bollocking Keatley is getting on Munsterfans right now

No more than usual, I have long said that Munster will win nothing with Keatley.

Foley will never live down letting go of Hanrahan, awful man management.

It really was, JJ was a better 10 than Keatley before he left. Massive loss to Munster.

Still all of play for, tigers could easily implode

Case in point

Stupid

nathan wrote:Still all of play for, tigers could easily implode

Looks like they are...

Stupid again!

Cyril wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Wasn't the first offence a push by a Munster player?

It looked like that. But a subsequent angle shows Cole pushing the Munster 6 who then collides with the Leicester 5 who 'stumbles' backward into Conway.

It was street smart by Cole - thems the breaks.

Pot Hale wrote:

Cyril wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Wasn't the first offence a push by a Munster player?

It looked like that. But a subsequent angle shows Cole pushing the Munster 6 who then collides with the Leicester 5 who 'stumbles' backward into Conway.

It was street smart by Cole - thems the breaks.

To be fair, Cole did nudge him but only slightly and certainly not as hard as the Munster 6

Good to see Sherry back

Leicester players went completely off their feet at the last ruck leading up to that try..

Blimey, 10 minutes nearly up. Where did that go

VinceWLB wrote:Leicester players went completely off their feet at the last ruck leading up to that try..

They drove over the ball first

Nice bit of sniping by Youngs there

Good to score when down to 14 too. Munster's defence parted like the Red Sea though.

nathan wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:Leicester players went completely off their feet at the last ruck leading up to that try..

They drove over the ball first

Which doesn't change the fact they have to stay on their feet.

The ball was out

Cyril wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Wasn't the first offence a push by a Munster player?

There was some pushing and shoving and Fitzgerald gets knocked into Conway it's a whole load of nothing.

That's never a yellow card. "Third penalty for dangerous play or tackle" when were the other two?

VinceWLB wrote:

nathan wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:Leicester players went completely off their feet at the last ruck leading up to that try..

They drove over the ball first

Which doesn't change the fact they have to stay on their feet.

The Munster players being driven back hit the deck and the bound on Tigers players went with them.

Like how tigers are getting around the rush defence

Williams off, not good

Oh come on Keatley! Gotta take those kinda points.

Bell is out of his depth at ten at this level. Williams is a big loss.

Clear neck role

Munster just look uncomfortable when they have the ball. Apart from the odd break, they just don't appear to be functioning at all.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Munster just look uncomfortable when they have the ball. Apart from the odd break, they just don't appear to be functioning at all.

I think they are very hit a miss at the breakdown

Poite getting some nice attention by the Leicester players.

There's too many players from both sides talking to Poite. It just gets irritating to watch and listen to.

Golden wrote:Poite getting some nice attention by the Leicester players.

He just says he's not looking why the Munster players keep hold of the ball.

Hate both, moaning to the ref and players holding onto the ball

Aaarrgh we're nine points up and one try away from TBP. What the hell are we doing kicking three we've smashed them with the rolling maul.

formerly known as Sam wrote:Aaarrgh we're nine points up and one try away from TBP. What the hell are we doing kicking three we've smashed them with the rolling maul.

Not much faith in our subs?

Who's that tigers player that's just come on! Lol

Easier than expected for the Tigers. Probably will be a bit disappointed not to get a bonus point.

Excellent win though.

This year's tournament is throwing up some surprising results!

I think they were more concerned about making sure that Munster didn't get a LBP and couldn't force a nervous few minutes. I'd have liked some more ambition there.

Nice to see Camacho finally get his debut and Thacker get on and get involved. Ballsy throw to the tail on his first throw and in our 22. Fantastic result and a great team effort. So happy after the limp dross that was our best effort last season this is so good to watch.

Wow, fantastic result tigers. Excellent stuff. Commiserations to Munster.

Congrats Leicester. Deserved victory.

Munster simply not good enough for this year.

They've a bit to go yet in creating a team that wins honours.

Just turned the match on in time to see the last three minutes. The commentators were saying Munster had 70% possession in the first half. Is that right?

I was catching up on the match by reading the comments on this thread. Were Leicester really better? In Thomond Park? That is remarkable. Thomond is usually a great place to watch Rugby as a visitor if one likes to see their team lose (but with great folk in the stadium).

Another 100% in the line out today

doctor_grey wrote:Just turned the match on in time to see the last three minutes.  The commentators were saying Munster had 70% possession in the first half.  Is that right?  

I was catching up on the match by reading the comments on this thread.  Were Leicester really better?  In Thomond Park?  That is remarkable.  Thomond is usually a great place to watch Rugby as a visitor if one likes to see their team lose (but with great folk in the stadium).  

All the stats seem to be in monsters favour other than the score

Well, congrats to Leicester and their fans. Big win away and I am slightly surprised why they did not go for the TBP but at the end of the day, its a big win in Thomond.

Is foley allowed to talk to polite at half time?

Great result!

Btw mods/admins I've been getting served ads that have taken over my browser (iOS) and redirected to other pages.

doctor_grey wrote:Just turned the match on in time to see the last three minutes.  The commentators were saying Munster had 70% possession in the first half.  Is that right?  

I was catching up on the match by reading the comments on this thread.  Were Leicester really better?  In Thomond Park?  That is remarkable.  Thomond is usually a great place to watch Rugby as a visitor if one likes to see their team lose (but with great folk in the stadium).  

Leicester looked the better team to me Doc. And yes Munster had loads of pocession first half. Munster didn't look right, not decisive and not that much self belief. Leicester on the other hand looked measured and confident.

eirebilly wrote:Well, congrats to Leicester and their fans. Big win away and I am slightly surprised why they did not go for the TBP but at the end of the day, its a big win in Thomond.

Could of it been they were worried about giving Munster a lbp

A bit of good luck I have to admit but I'm glad the rest of the performance was good enough that no one could reasonably say they didn't deserve the win. As I said before the game I'd have been perfectly happy with 4-1 to Munster so it was a surprise that I started getting greedy towards the end feeling like Tigers should've gone for the TBP.

I'm fully expecting a proper Munster performance next week. Should be a cracker.

nathan wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

Cyril wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Wasn't the first offence a push by a Munster player?

It looked like that. But a subsequent angle shows Cole pushing the Munster 6 who then collides with the Leicester 5 who 'stumbles' backward into Conway.

It was street smart by Cole - thems the breaks.

To be fair, Cole did nudge him but only slightly and certainly not as hard as the Munster 6

You need to look at the incident again from the angles that BT have shown a few times now.

Pot Hale wrote:

nathan wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

Cyril wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Poite gave Leicester that try with his decision on the block on Conway. It was quite deliberate.

Wasn't the first offence a push by a Munster player?

It looked like that. But a subsequent angle shows Cole pushing the Munster 6 who then collides with the Leicester 5 who 'stumbles' backward into Conway.

It was street smart by Cole - thems the breaks.

To be fair, Cole did nudge him but only slightly and certainly not as hard as the Munster 6

You need to look at the incident again from the angles that BT have shown a few times now.

Yeah just seen it again and probably agree with you, still Munster should of stopped the maul

nathan wrote:Is foley allowed to talk to polite at half time?

Foley must think he's Mourinho

I would imagine Poite will have told him to b*gger off to his dressing room!

mid_gen wrote:Great result!

Btw mods/admins I've been getting served ads that have taken over my browser (iOS) and redirected to other pages.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but an app called crystal was the best 79p I've spent in a while to solve that kind of thing