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Post by Jermaine2015 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 1:46 pm

So now Khan has a second option, what will chump Brook and Hearn do?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 1:54 pm

Wow, Amir might fight his first ever rematch!!

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 1:56 pm

The brook fight still makes more sense in my opinion

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Post by Jermaine2015 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 1:58 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:The brook fight still makes more sense in my opinion
Don't see how. Brook isn't a draw. Khan will easily get $3m to fight Garcia/Guerrero

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 2:11 pm

Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 13 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

Garcia vs Guerrero is a rubbish fight.

Good leverage for Khan for when he starts negotiating with Fast Eddie.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 2:39 pm

Khan should have fought Garcia before.............Any fighter worth his salt should attempt to put right at least one of his defeats.....

Think Garcia is probably the biggest overachiever around today....

good luck to him..

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Post by Jermaine2015 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 2:58 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.
Brook might need another 10 fights before fighting Khan...being a 10 year 35 year prospect far all...

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 13 Jan 2016, 3:37 pm

Let Guerrero/Garcia/Khan fight it out for silver.

Let Brook/Thurman/Porter fight it out for gold. Bradley too.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Wed 13 Jan 2016, 4:25 pm

I give up wasting time on Khan.

I'll wait for a fight to be announced before looking into it further, however....Khan hasnt fought since May last year and if he waits for he winner of Garcia/Guerrero, that could be realistically May/June onwards!

He's so inactive with his prime years. He'll never achieve what he could have and that's his and his teams fault.


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Post by Nico the gman Wed 13 Jan 2016, 4:50 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.
Brook might need another 10 fights before fighting Khan...being a 10 year 35 year prospect far all...
Isn't it Brook who's been calling Khan out for the last few year, with Mr Khan refusing the fight because he believes Brook isn't in he's class, therefore stating he has no interest in the fight.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Wed 13 Jan 2016, 5:06 pm

Nico the gman wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.
Brook might need another 10 fights before fighting Khan...being a 10 year 35 year prospect far all...
Isn't it Brook who's been calling Khan out for the last few year, with Mr Khan refusing the fight because he believes Brook isn't in he's class, therefore stating he has no interest in the fight.

Exactly Nico, Khan has always been offered great money for Brook including £5m nearly two years ago. From everything both parties have said, Khan's side is the sol reason it hasn't happened.

Saying that, Brook team can't use that as an excuse for fighting C level fighters as a real champ!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 5:15 pm

It's always Khan's fault...............

No credit for the quality Alexander.........No credit for Algieri...........No credit for Collazo..

They stack up better than Gavin....Yo Yo Dan and Bizier.....

Khan is running out of excuses and should fight Brook but it's all relentlessly negative..

Mainly because the kid thinks a lot of himself ....and why not !!

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Post by Nico the gman Wed 13 Jan 2016, 5:27 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.
Brook might need another 10 fights before fighting Khan...being a 10 year 35 year prospect far all...
Isn't it Brook who's been calling Khan out for the last few year, with Mr Khan refusing the fight because he believes Brook isn't in he's class, therefore stating he has no interest in the fight.

Exactly Nico, Khan has always been offered great money for Brook including £5m nearly two years ago.  From everything both parties have said, Khan's side is the sol reason it hasn't happened.

Saying that, Brook team can't use that as an excuse for fighting C level fighters as a real champ!
I agree Valero, no interest in watching Brook knocking over tomato cans, if it ain't Khan, then Brooks team should move on and try and make the fights with the best in the division and that's not happening.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 5:32 pm

It's not happening because Hearn can use khan as a lightning rod......and milk the belt..

"Waiting for khan to man up !!"

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Post by hazharrison Wed 13 Jan 2016, 6:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It's always Khan's fault...............

No credit for the quality Alexander.........No credit for Algieri...........No credit for Collazo..

They stack up better than Gavin....Yo Yo Dan and Bizier.....

Khan is running out of excuses and should fight Brook but it's all relentlessly negative..

Mainly because the kid thinks a lot of himself ....and why not !!

Algieri? He made extremely hard work of a non-puncher who an old Pacquiao slapped silly.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 13 Jan 2016, 6:38 pm

It is Khan's fault though Truss, he became so fixated with Mayweather that he ignored a winnable big money fight against Brook.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 7:35 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It is Khan's fault though Truss, he became so fixated with Mayweather that he ignored a winnable big money fight against Brook.

He waited for the best and it didn't come off....

He should fight Brook now....But Brook fans shouldn't throw stones when they live in glass houses....

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Post by Baby faced assassin Wed 13 Jan 2016, 9:22 pm

I actually like this fight, like the dynamics of it

2 fighters that should still be in the primes of their careers but are struggling for form they both need a big win to stay relevant in this division
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Post by Steffan Wed 13 Jan 2016, 9:34 pm

While I am washing my hair the night Brook faces Bizier...I am expecting words such as 'Showed his world class', 'Khan won't sign contract', 'If not move on to bigger things'. 'Everyone is running from this boy' from Eddie

He is good at getting casual fans on board and will try to make Khan look like the bad guy while our 'Special K' just wants to fight the best

Hope Khan takes the fight this year just to shut those pair up

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 13 Jan 2016, 10:32 pm

Steffan wrote:While I am washing my hair the night Brook faces Bizier...I am expecting words such as 'Showed his world class', 'Khan won't sign contract',

Good enough spin lines for at least two more stiffs after Bizier..

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Post by AdamT Thu 14 Jan 2016, 7:31 am

I'm not a huge fan of either,but strike now while the iron is hot.

There is always the risk Brook might lose, if he ever steps up in class again. Also with Khans history, he is one big punch away from another chicken dance.

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Post by Guest82 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 1:56 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Garcia THEN Brook in a unification is the MOST money either could ever make.

Unless Khan gets sparked by Garcia (again). In which case he'll have to take the small share of the purse, if Brook even fights him.

Khan isn't fighting anyone that might beat him, unless they are named Mayweather or Pacquaio, before Brook, he's still waiting to see if Mayweather comes back.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:08 pm

Funnily enough top contenders don't take risks for some reason..

Why should Khan be different.

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Post by spencerclarke Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:21 pm

A lot of fighters are only in it for the money for themselves and to provide for their family so I can't blame them too much if the take a decent wage at low risk. Sucks for us though.

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Post by Guest82 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:21 pm

Top contenders do tend to fight champions when the fight is offered to them though.

Brooks level of opposition has been terrible too, but at least he wants the Khan fight.

They should both see it as a winnable and highly lucrative fight.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:41 pm

And he's been champion twice.....

He's made the mistake of waiting for Floyd and Manny..

Stop being churlish....Beating Alexander types is more than most contenders do..

Who did Brook beat before Porter ??

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Post by AdamT Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:43 pm

I see you are big Khan fan Truss.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:46 pm

No....Just think he gets too much hypocritical crap..

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Post by AdamT Thu 14 Jan 2016, 2:48 pm

I don't think Brook is all that either. I just think Khan believes he is something he is not.

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Post by Steffan Thu 14 Jan 2016, 3:48 pm

AdamT wrote:I don't think Brook is all that either. I just think Khan believes he is something he is not.
Yes because in a sport where confidence and self promotion are imperative to a boxers career...he is really going to be modest and play himself down isn't he

He waited for Floyd and Manny and it didn't pay off. It still doesn't change the fact he has beaten fighters like Alexander, Collazo, Judah and Maidana

Brook has Porter. A good victory yes but his only top name in 10 years as a professional. The only other competitive fight he had was with some machete welding nutjob in Tenerife

I'm sure "Special K" has shares in this forum the way people defend him

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 14 Jan 2016, 4:24 pm

Khan can talk himself up all he likes, but like it or not Brook isn't a prospect or a contender he's a legit champion.
If Khan wants the IBF belt, all roads lead to Brook or not in Khans case.

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Post by Guest82 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 4:33 pm

The difference is that Brook wants the fight, which lets face it, is very likely because he knows he'll make a load of money from it.

But there has to be some professional pride involved in wanting to be the best from your own country etc.

Khan clearly doesn't want the fight, not sure why now the Mayweather and Pacquaio fights have gone. The reasons he keeps on giving for not taking the fight are childish and disrespectful. Brook needs to beat someone? He's a champion. Khan didn't have the same reservations about this when fighting McClosky or Molina etc.

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Post by Steffan Thu 14 Jan 2016, 4:35 pm

The fight will happen this year I hope

Khan will beat the winner of Garcia/Guerrero in the summer

In that time Brook will fit in one or two defences against some nobody or maybe even give another Polish binman a payday

Then the fight could happen at the end of the year

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Post by Lance Thu 14 Jan 2016, 7:07 pm

Garcia would be a tough rematch. Brook would be an easier fight for more money

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Post by spencerclarke Thu 14 Jan 2016, 7:37 pm

I think it was milky that pointed out that it is such a stacked division but most of the names have steered clear of one another for a long time now.

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Post by catchweight Thu 14 Jan 2016, 7:56 pm

I dont think Khan or Brook are intimidated by each other all. They are just following the selected path that their management are plotting. Khan has legitimately been chasing fights against the biggest names in the division and can count himself unlucky not to have landed them. Brook has been after a Khan fight as its the biggest money out there potentially (shows how valuable the title he holds is when he is chasing non champions). At least has had a career now at the top for many years and has been plying his trade, albeit with mixed fortunes, at the top level. He is rarely in a bad fight and gives terrific bang for your buck.

Brook just looks like a product of Matchrooms lack interest in securing big fights for him so far. They will take Khan, who they probably fancy they will beat, for a surefire ppv success. Outside of that though, they seem happy to take on the 3rd raters in fights that still earn them a nice profit, home advantage and a cheap title defence. They went down a lengthy eliminator route to target the weakest champion and since then its been a series of rather boring fights and name calling Khan. A decade of boxing in the richest division and he is still getting through the Jo Jo Dans and Frankie Gavins. Its been a boring ride with Brook in contrast with Khans thrills an spills.

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Post by AdamT Thu 14 Jan 2016, 8:26 pm

If Khan fights Garcia then I would be happy enough. I have been itching to see that rematch.

Though for obvious reasons, the Brook fight is huge over here.

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Post by Baby faced assassin Thu 14 Jan 2016, 8:50 pm

Is there still a big demand for a rematch

Like it's was 3 and a half years ago why have we had to wait this long anyways. Garcia is in poor form and Amir khan is semi retired, not exactly a in demand rematch now

Regardless if that with khan it's probably as good as we are gonna get, although knowing amir he'll finally realise Brook is the only huge payday he's gonna get and he'll stay away from Danny just incase he lands the left hookvagain
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 8:56 pm

Makes me laugh when people say Khan is as good as he's going to get...

It's irrelevant..

He's outclassed everyone he's fought bar Prescott who caught him cold..

He gave sucker Petersen a break...because he had a brain fade..Garcia was getting leathered !!..

He's quick with a great jab...You find a lottery punch or lose..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Thu 14 Jan 2016, 9:02 pm

Rematch with Garcia should have happened at lww. It would only be happening at ww because they both ran from Matthysse so it's completely diluted now for me.

I think there's more chance of this rematch happening than a Brook fight who Khan simply couldn't abide losing to.I just wish Khan would stop pretending he could beat Brook that's all. Be a bit more honest with the fans.

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Post by Baby faced assassin Thu 14 Jan 2016, 9:04 pm

Didnt outclass Algieri, barely won that one
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Post by Nico the gman Thu 14 Jan 2016, 9:22 pm

Lance wrote:Garcia would be a tough rematch. Brook would be an easier fight for more money
Brook might be more money for Khan, but I take Brook to stop Khan.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Jan 2016, 9:49 pm

Baby faced assassin wrote:Didnt outclass Algieri, barely won that one

Thought khan won comfortably..and the judges agreed..Algieri is a stinker...Hard to look good against stinkers..

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Post by Baby faced assassin Thu 14 Jan 2016, 9:59 pm

Pacquiao looked good, won every round and knocked him down 6 times

Think I had a 7-5 split in khan's favour

Would say anything closer than 9-3 is outclassed not a 1 round swin
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Post by Lance Thu 14 Jan 2016, 10:58 pm

Brook has a chance against Khan. Pretty hard fight to pick. But I think Garcia would go in with a lot of confidence and Khan will go in scared. Say what you want about the first few rounds but Garcia caught him and beat the hell out of him. Don't see Khan getting back in with him and I'd be very impressed if he proved me wrong

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Post by hogey Fri 15 Jan 2016, 4:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Makes me laugh when people say Khan is as good as he's going to get...

It's irrelevant..

He's outclassed everyone he's fought bar Prescott who caught him cold..

He gave sucker Petersen a break...because he had a brain fade..Garcia was getting leathered !!..

He's quick with a great jab...You find a lottery punch or lose..

He never outclassed Limond, Gomez, Peterson, Prescott, Diaz, Algieri (a very raw) Maidana and doing well for 2 rounds against Garcia before getting utterly destroyed is not even near to winning. Khan is a very decent fighter no more no less, he has just never lived up to the hype or his own patter. Garcia and Brook will ruin him which would pretty much finish his career so i can see him marking time with some more fights against non punchers while lingering for Floyd or Manny to reappear.
Brook needs to get moving and forget about Khan he is the champion and should be fighting better men if he wants to reap the benefits of bigger purses and more publicity, all this talk of Khan makes him sound like the challenger and 3 time loser Khan the champion the boy needs to get a grip.

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Post by AdamT Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:01 pm

Amazing post Hogey. Fully agree.

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Post by Coxy001 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 12:11 pm

Truss 'the quality Alexander'!!???!?!? Hahahhaaa... Ooo some were just came out I chuckled so hard.

Khan is doing everything he can to not fight Brook - it is the most amount of money he could earn. The yanks aren't interested in him, Algieri, Alexander were fought in someone's living room and the tv numbers were woeful.

Brook is the one making all the noises. Brook is the one who went to America and beat a top ranked WW to take the title. Khan goes there and fights a washed up Collazo, Alexander who hasn't beat anyone in years and scraped past Algieri who got smacked silly by an old Pacman. Yet you think be has some sort of right to veto the Brook fight.

Khan isn't as good as you think. If he was as good as he thinks as well why hasn't he taken the Brook fight? Massive money and seems to think it'd be an easy night yet refuses to fight him.

Whoever Khan chooses to fight I hope he loses and has to watch Brook take on the likes of Thurman, Garcia, Bradley and co.

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Post by AZZJ44 Mon 18 Jan 2016, 12:51 am

Brook won't take on any of those names, come on now. It's Khan or a long list of mandatories and no names.

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