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Post by Hero Tue 10 May 2016, 11:49 am

First topic message reminder :

Was going to wait a couple of weeks but it's already kicking off today...

Bayern Munich have nabbed what was regarded as one of Man Utd's main transfer targets and signed the 18 year old wonderkid Renato Sanches from Benfica for £28m.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 02 Jul 2016, 12:13 pm

I just don't see the point in spending a chunk of budget on him. He's good, but they have Zaha, Bolasie, Puncheon, Sako already.

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Post by Hero Sat 02 Jul 2016, 12:41 pm

Mkhitaryan confirmed

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Post by GSC Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:07 pm

Can't put my finger on why, but gut says this feels like the Kagawa transfer again
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Post by Hero Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:14 pm

Because he's joined from Dortmund?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:15 pm

I'm not overly convinced by Mkhitaryan but Kagawa was signed for one very obvious reason at the time whereas this a purely footballing transfer.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:25 pm

GSC wrote:Can't put my finger on why, but gut says this feels like the Kagawa transfer again

he's been playing at a high level longer than kagawa, who just had a brief run of good form (been nowhere near as successful second spell). mkhitaryan was also playing well at shakhtar before dortmund, so has adapted to other leagues before. added to it that he's bit more physical than kagawa think he'll be more of a success

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:32 pm

Not overly convinced on Mhkriyartan. Good season last year, pretty poor the year before & being good in Ukraine, means little. Think Mane will end up being the better signing of the two, if Mhkriyartan is played wide right, think you need that pace to really have have an impact in this league.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:40 pm

LiamB wrote:Not overly convinced on Mhkriyartan. Good season last year, pretty poor the year before & being good in Ukraine, means little. Think Mane will end up being the better signing of the two, if Mhkriyartan is played wide right,  think you need that pace to really have have an impact in this league.

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:54 pm

He's a 10, Mkhr is playing wider. Also, David Silva is twice the player of this Armenian anyway. He's ended up at United & no Champs Lge side has touched him, says everything.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:59 pm

silva has played wide for large parts of his city career, very rarely played 10 under pellegrini. mata, modric, lampard all been great success in this league playing in attacking positions without pace. pace is not needed to be success in this league


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Post by Hero Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:02 pm

He turned down Arsenal, a CL club to come to Utd.

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:06 pm

Arsenal were never in for him, didn't even make a bid. Arsenal looked at Mkhitaryan, but walked away after his agent said he wanted £200k a week. They will end up with Mahrez anyway.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:09 pm

pure and utter speculation

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:10 pm

Hero wrote:He turned down Arsenal, a CL club to come to Utd.

Players simply use the Champions League as an excuse to divert away from the fact they've moved for money, very few teams can compete against us so they don't bother trying.

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Post by Hero Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:12 pm

He got the most assists of any player in the top leagues of Europe, the only reason other clubs didn't bid was because early on his agent stated his heart was set on Utd.

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Post by Ent Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:15 pm

We wanted him, he wanted to come - I'm happy with that.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 02 Jul 2016, 5:23 pm

He's a wonderful player. Will he operate from wide or behind the striker? I can't see Jose playing a four of Zlatan and then in behind Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford.

Regardless, wonderful player. Two very high quality signings and another interesting one. I'd read originally he wanted four in. Pogba may be a bonus one that they are buying based on quality not a squad need. I still think the defence needs looking at.

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 6:11 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I still think the defence needs looking at.

No, it doesn't

United's midfield looks horrible, in terms of the defensive side. Carrick is an OAP & injury prone, Bastian's legs have gone, Morgan hasn't settled, Fellaini will surely be sold & then you have Rooney, who is horrible in CM. That's what need improving, not the defence.

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Post by GSC Sat 02 Jul 2016, 6:27 pm

To be fair, it probably does as well. Smalling is improving every season, and Shaw is an excellent prospect coming off a major injury. Outside of that theres a bunch of useful players at best.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 02 Jul 2016, 8:04 pm

No it doesn't, mate, Liam has told me. If a defence is gonna go in with Bailly and Fosu-Mensah and expect to get champions league then I'd say have another look at what you can do for it

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 8:17 pm

Fosu was actually quality last season, in fact the younger stars of United were their better players. I won't wait for the United fans on here to back me up, they never pipe up against the established in here. You obviously have never seen Bailly play, just making a judgement on him & doubting him. Not really going to agree with someone who thinks Walker is good & can defend.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 02 Jul 2016, 8:22 pm

Don't think he can defend well to be honest, just think it's amazing you think that defence can't be looked at. I saw him, I thought he was OK in his stints, but he's young and relatively untested. Bailly is young and inexperienced and never played in England so it's a risk too.

There's no conspiracy here, I just don't agree with you. You're gonna have to get over it

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 02 Jul 2016, 8:55 pm

Utd desperately need a good RB and another good CB
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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jul 2016, 10:49 am

Leicester sign Nampalys Mendy (aka Kante's replacement) from Nice.

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jul 2016, 12:04 pm

Paris Saint-Germain have signed Grzegorz Krychowiak from Sevilla on a 5-year deal

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Jul 2016, 12:25 pm

Maybe Mendy isnt Kantes replacement then
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Post by compelling and rich Sun 03 Jul 2016, 12:32 pm

LiamB wrote:Fosu was actually quality last season, in fact the younger stars of United were their better players. I won't wait for the United fans on here to back me up, they never pipe up against the established in here. You obviously have never seen Bailly play, just making a judgement on him & doubting him. Not really going to agree with someone who thinks Walker is good & can defend.

ha! you obviously never seen me and dolph talk about rooney

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Post by Hero Sun 03 Jul 2016, 1:14 pm

Hirving Lozano's dad says he'll be joining Utd after the Olympics.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 03 Jul 2016, 4:34 pm

His son will be jealous

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Post by Hero Sun 03 Jul 2016, 5:27 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:His son will be jealous

Bravo, I doff my cap in your direction.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 03 Jul 2016, 5:37 pm

I couldn't resist

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Post by Hero Sun 03 Jul 2016, 5:57 pm

Looking highly likely Mata is going to Everton. Great buy for them if it's the case.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 03 Jul 2016, 6:18 pm

Yeah, think that's good for them. Seems he's choosing to stay in England over some bigger clubs that want him. The shame for me is that I wanted him if Payet went.

Clubs are acting fast though, which worries me as we dither over our main position of worry.

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:10 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Utd desperately need a good RB and another good CB

I'd go with that. Our defence had a decent record last year but our possession play goes a long way towards that, plus some of the saves De Gea pulled off. Fosu mensah could be used at centre back but I see his future more in the midfield

Darmian had a hit and miss season. Started incredibly well but seemed to become unsettled, I know there was talk he missed Italy though so I could see him going back so a RB is a must, unless Bailly of Fosu Mensah plays there and another CB comes in. Shaw and Borthwick Jackson at left back are two I'm happy with

A lot will depend on who Mourinho gets rid of. A CM is a must and I would like to add a more experienced CB at the back (especially given our record of defensive casualties over previous seasons)

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Post by Holymiky Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:13 pm

Glad we got in Batshuayi today.

Interested to see who else Conte brings in now that his focus is purely on Chelsea.

I'm also interested to see what system he plays there, I know everyone may say 3-5-2 understandably but i don't know if he would be willing to push Azpilicueta out of the team considering he has been one at the best at the club for like the last 2-3 years (maybe not so much last year).

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 04 Jul 2016, 11:01 am

gomez is wolfsburgs main striker target

Van Persie and Bendtner were offered to us but swiftly rejected

utd were are trying to move mata and morgan ..... only everton interested in Mata

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Post by Hero Mon 04 Jul 2016, 11:09 am

Something is going on with Pogba, he's removed 'Juventus player' from his Twitter bio and he's stopped following them on Twitter.
I'm hoping it's to us, I'm expecting it's to Real.

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Post by Ent Mon 04 Jul 2016, 11:53 am

I don't want him back.

Think he's over rated, not becessarily what we need and questions over his attitude.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 12:48 pm

Leicester are signing Ahmed Musa for a club record fee. I've liked him, every time I've seen him play - real threat

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Post by Crimey Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:15 pm

Mata really needs the side to be built around him I feel to get the best out of him, think it'd be an absolutely fantastic signing for Everton. Mata pulling strings in the middle with their pacy wingers could be really effective.

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Post by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:18 pm

Think he's a bit too lightweight for the PL tbh, hardly proven Jose wrong that he's a luxury player.
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Post by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:29 pm

West Brom paying 5m for Matt Phillips

Meh
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Post by Hero Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:32 pm

Leicester continue to splash the cash, buying Ahmed Musa for £16.6m

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 1:58 pm

GSC wrote:West Brom paying 5m for Matt Phillips

Meh

Wonderful news & it's £5.5m. Assists galore at the Hawthorns, this season.

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Post by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:07 pm

Dunno why you'd be that fussed to be honest. He's not even particularly good in the 2nd tier.
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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 2:56 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qprs-matt-phillips-second-only-5481135

sorry for being too excited. christ, you must be depressing to be around. No wonder you spend all day sat behind a computer.

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Post by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:19 pm

The hypocrisy is legitimately too funny.
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Post by Stella Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:25 pm

Man U after Will Hughes from Derby for £7m. He's definitely worth that, though is he good enough for Utd? More like an Arsenal player from what I've seen of him. Pretty but not that effective.
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Post by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:27 pm

They've been waiting a few years for him to take the next step. Got a major injury at the start of last year so could be value tbf.
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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:29 pm

GSC wrote:The hypocrisy is legitimately too funny.

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