Summer Transfer Thread 16/17

by **Hero** Tue 10 May 2016, 11:49 am

First topic message reminder :

Was going to wait a couple of weeks but it's already kicking off today...

Bayern Munich have nabbed what was regarded as one of Man Utd's main transfer targets and signed the 18 year old wonderkid Renato Sanches from Benfica for £28m.

by Stella Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:32 pm

GSC wrote:They've been waiting a few years for him to take the next step. Got a major injury at the start of last year so could be value tbf.

My Derby work colleague was raving about him a couple of years ago, but I was a little unimpressed when I finally caught him play. Still young and is English, so £7m could end up being good value.

by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:36 pm

Yeah he's kinda stagnated there. Plenty of talent still, and 7m is pocket change for United these days

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm

Matuidi to United has gone from definite to I dunno this afternoon.

And let's be nice and calm please.

by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 3:58 pm

The arrival of Krychowiak, probably means Matuidi is surplus & nearly 30. Blaise is a Mourinho-style player & Raiola represents him, who also represents, Zlatan

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 04 Jul 2016, 6:33 pm

I also think Phillips is a decent little signing. Not mind blowing, but pocket change fee and potential to work out well. Certainly the kind of player they need.

by compelling and rich Mon 04 Jul 2016, 6:50 pm

always liked matuidi, would give us something that we are definitely missing and thats legs to get about in midfield. far too easy to play against our midfield currently. kante would be another option but matudi has been there and done it for a longer period, would be the less risky signing

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:51 pm

A bit underwhelmed by our business so far and not particularly excited by the rumours abounding.

Bailly- Felt we need an experienced leader in defence not another young guy
Mkhitaryan- Seems a bit slow for the premier league
Ibrahimovich- Falcao mk2

Pogba- Hell no at the price being speculated
Matuidi- Not good enough
Lozano- Will admit i've never seen him play

by Stella Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:56 pm

You forgot Will Hughes!

by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:56 pm

Pogba wants Madrid over United.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:01 pm

Pogba is a mercenary who will join whatever team offers him the most money.

by Guest Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:05 pm

Apart from one header last night, he's been distinctly ordinary. For that fee, United should be saying to Madrid, 'you have him' & moving on. The problem is, Matuidi is not that great either. Carrick, Rooney, Schweinsteiger & Matuidi (all past their best).

by **Hero** Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:17 pm

Where's this misconception come about that Mkhitaryan isn't fast? He nearly made it as a sprinter instead of as a footballer, he's most certainly got a burst of speed.
Pogba ordinary? He's not had a great Euros certainly, but neither has Muller, Ronaldo, Leewandowski etc, shall we all call them ordinary as well. Prefer to acknowledge the fact he's been the best midfielder in Itsly for the past two seasons myself than a smattering of games.
And to question Ibrahimovic when he's won league titles (and often been instrumental towards them) for pretty much every club he's played at is just head scratching.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:27 pm

He's been plying his trade in France for four years and it's been a one horse race the whole time, sorry but the level he's been playing at is pretty awful.

Pogba has the media hype behind him but i've not seen anything to suggest he's a world record transfer fee player, I can't remember him dictating a game in the Champions league to be honest. Juventus' success is built upon there defence; Chiellini, Bonucci and Barzagli are more important to them than Pogba.

by compelling and rich Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:34 pm

im not sold on the pogba hype, but he's still better than anything we currently got. not too fussed about what the club spend on transfers. never really understood the fuss around it, its got nothing to do with us. weve got more than enough money that it wont affcet us

by GSC Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:41 pm

Think United are crying out for a Pogba type in midfield. They haven't had a legitimate CM with his athleticism in years (aside from that time they had him).

Ibra, imagine he'll probably be a 20 goal striker in the PL, United aren't a CL side so mission accomplished with that signing.

by **Hero** Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:44 pm

Juve went into last season having sold Vidal and Pirlo, 2/3 of their holy trinity as well as Tevez, they struggled initially but it was certainly Pogba who was key to them then going on a record breaking run in Serie A collecting 76 out of a possible 78 points.

by **Hero** Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:47 pm

Ibra may have played in what's regarded as a poor league but being that the Premier League has just been won by Leicester I'd argue the case our League is hardly pulling up trees, he has also managed to score against Chelsea, Barca etc when PSG have faced them in the CL.

by **Crimey** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 11:24 am

Crystal Palace are bidding £31.5 million for Benteke. I'd accept that. He'd be at best fourth choice next year, that would be a £500k loss and basically funds the Mane deal. I think he'll likely be a success at Crystal Palace and can understand the style Pardew is going for.

I feel for Benteke, signed by Rodgers, who was replaced by Klopp and never got a real good shot. Just a weird transfer, didn't fit Rodgers' vision at all in the first place. Will always remember his goal against Manchester United. I do think he's a bit of a lazy forward though, it may be down to a lack of confidence, but he so rarely ran, which is unforgivable.

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 11:54 am

Crimey wrote:Crystal Palace are bidding £31.5 million for Benteke. I'd accept that. He'd be at best fourth choice next year, that would be a £500k loss and basically funds the Mane deal. I think he'll likely be a success at Crystal Palace and can understand the style Pardew is going for.

I feel for Benteke, signed by Rodgers, who was replaced by Klopp and never got a real good shot. Just a weird transfer, didn't fit Rodgers' vision at all in the first place. Will always remember his goal against Manchester United. I do think he's a bit of a lazy forward though, it may be down to a lack of confidence, but he so rarely ran, which is unforgivable.

Tekkers down, only Super Mario to go...things are looking up. Of course, in this year of miracles, maybe Klopp can get a decent player out of him...then again, they call him Jurgen, not Jesus!

by **Crimey** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:09 pm

Manchester City close to signing Leroy Sane for £40 million.

Wonder where that leaves Sterling?

Hart

Zabaleta - Kompany - Otamendi - Clichy

Gundogan - Fernandinho

Sane - De Bruyne - Nolito

Aguero

I know they'll rotate but Sterling only cost £49 million last year and clearly has fragile confidence.

by **Hero** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:13 pm

I'm still expecting Silva to not be in Pep's long term plans, you'd have to think De Bruyne would be getting the n10 slot.

by compelling and rich Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:13 pm

surprised we havent heard any rumours of yaya leaving, wouldnt have thought he'd fit peps tactics

mourinho confirms were trying for a fourth player

by **Hero** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:14 pm

compelling and rich wrote:surprised we havent heard any rumours of yaya leaving, wouldnt have thought he'd fit peps tactics

mourinho confirms were trying for a fourth player

To me that very much hinted at Pogba.

by **Crimey** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:17 pm

Hero wrote:I'm still expecting Silva to not be in Pep's long term plans, you'd have to think De Bruyne would be getting the n10 slot.

Forgot De Bruyne! That puts Sterling even further down the pecking order. Unless Nolito has been bought as a back-up, which is always possible, seems Sterling is right down.

I can Silva being re-purposed to be an Iniesta style midfielder, doubt he'll be played wide by Guardiola, but I can certainly see him still having a future in the middle, just maybe deeper now.

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:25 pm

Crimey wrote:Wonder where that leaves Sterling?

Does anyone care? Raheem won't even want to touch the ball in training sessions, such is his poor technique & it being under immense scrutiny from Pep. He'll be used in League Cup games & against low-end PL teams, when Pep needs to rotate.

As for City, Hart would be a ? & the full backs are terrible. They also still have the issue of replacing Aguero, when he's inevitably injured for half the season. Aubameyang not happening?

by **Hero** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:29 pm

I can't see Aubameyang happening now, Dortmund didn't want to sell Mkhitaryan after already losing Hummels and Gundogan.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:46 pm

Liverpool fans - Norwich have had a bid accepted for Sergi Canos - any opinions on him?

by **Crimey** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:53 pm

It's a weird one, people seemed to be pretty excited about him, he only posted on Thursday that he was looking forward to getting back to pre-season, I can only assume there is a buy-back clause in there.

He did well at Brentford, so I expect he'll do even better for Norwich. A good signing.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 2:27 pm

Crimey wrote:It's a weird one, people seemed to be pretty excited about him, he only posted on Thursday that he was looking forward to getting back to pre-season, I can only assume there is a buy-back clause in there.

He did well at Brentford, so I expect he'll do even better for Norwich. A good signing.

I would presume there will be a buy back clause/first dibs type agreement - Bristol city had a bid accepted too I think

Cheers - sounds like a promising young player

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:31 pm

Tomkins gone for £10m plus add ons. 4th choice but he's definitely a good player and also one of the academy lads. Business wise it's fine but sentimentally not great. Should give him game time though and I'd say he's better than what they've got so don't see him being anything but first choice for a few years.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 05 Jul 2016, 5:36 pm

Crimey wrote:Manchester City close to signing Leroy Sane for £40 million.

Wonder where that leaves Sterling?

Hart

Zabaleta - Kompany - Otamendi - Clichy

Gundogan - Fernandinho

Sane - De Bruyne - Nolito

Aguero

I know they'll rotate but Sterling only cost £49 million last year and clearly has fragile confidence.

Zab is going to Roma

by GSC Tue 05 Jul 2016, 5:42 pm

Suspect Nolito takes Navas' place as a squad player

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 5:46 pm

If you actually look at that side, it's not that impressive. the full backs are pony, keeper is questionable, no backup for Aguero, Sterling & Nolito aren't top notch & Silva/Yaya are past their best. Gundogan, Aguero, Nasri & Kompany are injury prone too. Only saying it how it is.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 05 Jul 2016, 6:04 pm

A centre back might be needed but Sagna and Clichy are decent without being spectacular. Hart is good, just a step down from the elite, but not sure who they can get who would be miles better. They could upgrade the full backs but it's not urgent.

by Ent Tue 05 Jul 2016, 6:15 pm

Depends on the goals, if they are hunting pl, cl and cups then they'll need new starting fullbacks and at least a decent back up centre half.

These players are in short supply though.

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 7:24 pm

As expected, Valencia have signed former Manchester United winger Nani from Fenerbahce

by westisbest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:34 pm

Crimey wrote:Crystal Palace are bidding £31.5 million for Benteke. I'd accept that. He'd be at best fourth choice next year, that would be a £500k loss and basically funds the Mane deal. I think he'll likely be a success at Crystal Palace and can understand the style Pardew is going for.

I feel for Benteke, signed by Rodgers, who was replaced by Klopp and never got a real good shot. Just a weird transfer, didn't fit Rodgers' vision at all in the first place. Will always remember his goal against Manchester United. I do think he's a bit of a lazy forward though, it may be down to a lack of confidence, but he so rarely ran, which is unforgivable.

Should never have left Villa.
But sadly thats what happens when a bigger and better club come in for you.

Was brilliant for us, ran the show.
Scored some quality goals.

Just hope his career doesnt go downhill.

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 10:11 pm

Johann Gudmundsson set for a move to Premier League new boys Burnley

by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 10:37 am

westisbest wrote:
Crimey wrote:Crystal Palace are bidding £31.5 million for Benteke. I'd accept that. He'd be at best fourth choice next year, that would be a £500k loss and basically funds the Mane deal. I think he'll likely be a success at Crystal Palace and can understand the style Pardew is going for.

I feel for Benteke, signed by Rodgers, who was replaced by Klopp and never got a real good shot. Just a weird transfer, didn't fit Rodgers' vision at all in the first place. Will always remember his goal against Manchester United. I do think he's a bit of a lazy forward though, it may be down to a lack of confidence, but he so rarely ran, which is unforgivable.

Should never have left Villa.
But sadly thats what happens when a bigger and better club come in for you.

Was brilliant for us, ran the show.
Scored some quality goals.

Just hope his career doesnt go downhill.

It's been a trait of Liverpool's for some years now. Whoever scores a hatful against us and makes us look like mugs, we sign them the following season in the misguided notion that they'll repeat the trick for us. We did it with Andy Carroll, Benteke and now Mane. Somebody somewhere must have spotted this pattern and is in the process of putting stop to it.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 06 Jul 2016, 10:47 am

The Pogba rumours are gathering pace but I can't help but feel our interest is being used to spur Real Madrid into life.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 06 Jul 2016, 5:04 pm

Tore on loan with a view to buy for West Ham. Seems that we have given up on Lacazette, thought Benteke was overpriced and are looking now at Bacca.

by **owen10ozzy** Wed 06 Jul 2016, 5:16 pm

City with a £38 million bid for Bonucci rejected....as good as he is...£38mill for a 29yr old. Transfer fees really have gone mad. Adding to the notion held by some that Guardiola has to have a ready made team to find success too.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 06 Jul 2016, 5:17 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:City with a £38 million bid for Bonucci rejected....as good as he is...£38mill for a 29yr old. Transfer fees really have gone mad. Adding to the notion held by some that Guardiola has to have a ready made team to find success too.

GOOD MANAGER WANTS TO BUY GOOD PLAYERS SHOCKER

by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 5:33 pm

As good as Bonucci is, I imagine taking him out his tactical comfort zone at Juve & Italy, will leave him exposed. He just needs to get Stones & be done with it.

Dolph, you got to be disappointed with possibly Bacca, as the marquee 'Olympic stadium' signing. If anything, if I was Payet, I'd be looking at WHU's activity & thinking, 'maybe I should be off'.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 06 Jul 2016, 6:53 pm

Seriously? No chance. Thats the Bacca that has scored goals everywhere. Hes no Lacazette, but we were trying to play above our station with someone like him. Thats a man who got seven goals in a Europa League winning campaign, with two in the final, and then went to Milan and got 18 goals in his first season in Serie A.

When it comes to it, Batshauyi has potential, and Lacazette looks the real deal and Icardi will be huge, but I can't really see how we could realistically expect to get any of them. Not much else for us to go for really. We are not interested in Benteke at that price, so looks like Janssen, Gabbiadini and Bacca are the next rung. Not sure who else we could realistically target?

I'd have taken Berahino to be honest, so Bacca is a result. I would still be surprised if we got him too. We've gone into a market where a lot of top clubs are looking for players. Arsenal, Atletico, PSG, Chelsea all wanted strikers. and then theres Spurs sniffing around too. With Carroll there for the long haul, we need to upgrade what we have. Sakho is a cracker but not top quality, Valencia can be dire.

by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:34 pm

Bacca is a goal machine, he's ageing, but still a massive upgrade for WHU. Just because he's probably Bilic's third or fourth choice, doesn't take away his proven ability or that he's somewhat inferior to the top targets. If anything, I'd rather have a ready made Bacca, who's done it all around European leagues, than a young, questionable signing like Michy B.

by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 9:01 pm

Leeds are signing Rob Green

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 06 Jul 2016, 11:04 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:City with a £38 million bid for Bonucci rejected....as good as he is...£38mill for a 29yr old. Transfer fees really have gone mad. Adding to the notion held by some that Guardiola has to have a ready made team to find success too.

Bonucci has another 6/7 years left in him but the Nolito signing is a very short term fix.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 06 Jul 2016, 11:12 pm

Di Marzio reckons United have an agreement with Pogba and after the Euros there'll be an offer of €120m for him to Juve

by Ent Wed 06 Jul 2016, 11:15 pm

Don't think he's called a correct transfer yet this window!

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