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Post by laverfan Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:27 am

First topic message reminder :

Schedule and Live Scores.

All four QFs are intriguing.

Raonic v Querrey - Raonic played a five-setter vs Goffin, while Querrey has been good nick. An upset with Querrey coming through, perhaps?

Federer v Cilic - Federer may have reached his limit. A miracle is needed for him to go through. I keep Pancho at the back of mind, though.

Berdych v Pouille - Big stage for Pouille. Berdych has experience, but Pouille has youth. The Vesely match may help Pouille with a bit of confidence.

MotD - Murray v Tsonga. Tsonga is a dangerous Grass player. Murray's taming of Kyrgios should give him faith in his own ability to get to Final.


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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:47 pm

Murray cannot afford to play safe here. Anything mid-court is getting the treatment.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:47 pm

Cant find his serve. Pays the price. This match has divebombed since the 1st set

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:51 pm

Apart from a dodgy service game, I don't think Tsonga's level has dropped off in this set. He's clearly the more confident of the two. Think Tsonga is someone who plays better when he just relaxes and goes for it.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:51 pm

its poor from both

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:54 pm

This is one of those matches when it will be sad to see someone lose it. Both Murray and Tsonga have put a lot of effort into this match playing some fantastic rallies and shots from time to time. Given the relative rarity of Tsonga reaching semi finals and finals in slams it would be a shame for Tsonga to lose this. However as a "patriot" I favour Murray. Also Murray is more likely to capitalise on this win rather than Tsonga who is more likely to lose in the semi-final or final.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:55 pm

This is a comedy of errors now

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:56 pm

temporary21 wrote:This is a comedy of errors now
Indeed if you or I were playing we would beat them easily.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:57 pm

Not the point really. The quality has gone right down from the 1st set, Murray just missed 2 bp's by missing easy final shots

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:58 pm

Great game apart from the BH miss. I really hope Andy doesn't end up rueing it.

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:58 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Tsonga not going away.

Not yet.

Maybe the gas man has been to reconnect the supply ..... Wink

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 7:59 pm

Intensity seems to have gone up a notch. That should favour Murray, but we will see.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:00 pm

Tsonga's BH on fire today, particularly DTL.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:00 pm

I need gas and air just watching it!

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:01 pm

From getting a break to lead in the fourth set Murray was then broken on his service and then Tsonga held. This fourth set can go either way.

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:02 pm

Some real quality from JWT !!

Great stuff !!!!

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:02 pm

Fairplay to Tsonga. He's played great at times.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:02 pm

This is going 5...

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:03 pm

temporary21 wrote:Not the point really. The quality has gone right down from the 1st set, Murray just missed 2 bp's by missing easy final shots
The intensity has gone down from the first set definitely, but it is still quite a good quality.  If they kept the intensity up from the first set one might expect them to be on peds.


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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:03 pm

Quite extraordinary...
Murray will need to wake up in the 5th

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:05 pm

His serves gotten slower...
but Andy has gone off a cliff

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:07 pm

Could this be the moment when Murray fires himself up?

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Post by westisbest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:08 pm

Great stuff from Tsonga.

Hopefully now he can wrap up the 5th.

Sorry not a Murray fan.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:09 pm

So we're into the lottery of a 5th set. If Tsonga can stay loose, he's going to be a real handful. Reality is that Murray could play well and still lose it. Don't think I've ever watched Murray lose from 2 sets up.

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:09 pm

Jo Willy took the fight to Murray in that fourth.

Murray wobbled under the pressure.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:09 pm

Unless he gets his forehand back, hes in big trouble.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:10 pm

Cmon Tsonga

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:10 pm

My mum and sister have tickets for centre court on Friday. They'll be gutted if Andy doesn't come through this.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:12 pm

From 4-2 up in the fourth set and having just won serve, Murray lost the next four games.  Murrays intensity did drop again immediately after he broke Tsonga.  Tsonga has just been better at maintaining his intensity following his own drop off after the first set (when he lost the second set 6-1).

Tsonga seems to be the better player. Murray can only win if he out-does Tsonga for intensity.


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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:12 pm

5th set shootout against a big server is not a place you want to be. Can Tsonga keep hitting these BHs under pressure?

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:13 pm

My money is on Andy. (although not too much money)

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:14 pm

Come on!

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:14 pm

Too easy for Tsonga... hes in eevry service game now

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:15 pm

After the previous match. This is too tense for my liking

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:16 pm

temporary21 wrote:Too easy for Tsonga... hes in eevry service game now
Yes.  From the beginning of the third set Murray is finding it very difficult to hold serve and this is draining away his confidence and energy.  He I think has to hope that Tsonga's intensity drops further and that he himself finds a "second wind".


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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:16 pm

Murray clings on!

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:17 pm

What a rally. Quality tennis.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:17 pm

This isn't easy for anyone.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:18 pm

On the brink, he finds something...

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:18 pm

On the plus... absolutely nothings happening in the football so that can go on the backburner

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm

That last rally was performed at a pedestrian pace. Murray won that rally by outmanoeuvring Tsonga off the court rather than playing a hard put away.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:20 pm

This is how you have to play when you have lost intensity. Pedestrian rallies plus tactics.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:21 pm

No easy holds for anyone now

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:22 pm

Murray breaks! What are the odds he can serve it out from here? Next game is crucial.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:23 pm

Thank god for the bh... its single handedly getting him closer to the winning post

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:24 pm

Sneak net attack works well for Andy.

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:25 pm

On occasion each player is able to raise their intensity for a single point, but their average level is definitely quite low. This requires intelligent tennis.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:25 pm

Anyone seen a first serve? Andy seems to have misplaced his.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:25 pm

well done. Hes changed tact a bit, move tsonga round, come to the net more. Its working at the mo

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:26 pm

Massive second serve

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:27 pm

Murray blowing his reviews quite early in this set. He only has one left.

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