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Post by Kingshu on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:15 am

http://www.the42.ie/6-nations-team-week-scotland-hogg-3224468-Feb2017/

The 42's team is

15. Stuart Hogg (Scotland)
14. Sean Maitland (Scotland)
13. Gael Fickou (France)
12. Owen Farrell (England)
11. Elliot Daly (England)
10. Finn Russell (Scotland)
9. Greig Laidlaw (Scotland)
1. Joe Marler (England)
2. Guilhem Guirado (France)
3. Tadhg Furlong (Ireland)
4. Richie Gray (Scotland)
5. Jonny Gray (Scotland)
6. Ryan Wilson (Scotland)
7. Kevin Gourdon (France)
8. Louis Picamoles (France)

7 Scots 4 French 3 English 1 Irish 0 Welsh 0 Italians

I didn't get seeing all the games so cannot say, but those that did, do you agree?


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Post by whocares on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:45 am

Can't agree with Fickou being there. Not even a 13 and a scrappy game overall. Surely there was other good centres playing this weekend?

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Post by RDW on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:51 am

I was pretty drunk by the time the England game came on, but I think Hamish Watson and Justin Tupiric were up there as top performers on the flank.  Watson made 16 tackles despite only being on 50 minutes! I thought Tupiric was MOTM for Wales.

Paddy Jackson should be in at 10 too - Russell had a fairly average game and Jackson was one of Ireland's only positives.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:52 am

Well JD was rubbish and JJ offered very little in attack.

Daly can only be in there for 1 long range kick, as he offered nothing outside of that, similar with Farrell.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:59 am

Yeah Daly is a very good player but is new to the wing and didn't have a great game. A top winger would have finished his chance when he put a foot in touch. Gourdon and Picamoles were both top class.

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Post by compelling and rich on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:59 am

went to twickernham on Saturday. good day out, but was fairly drunk by the start of the game but thought we were pretty poor overall. didnt think any england players stoodout. cant argue with majority being scottish.

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Post by maestegmafia on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:10 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Well JD was rubbish and JJ offered very little in attack.

Daly can only be in there for 1 long range kick, as he offered nothing outside of that, similar with Farrell.

Jon Davies who scored one try and set up another?

I didn't think he was so bad.


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Post by maestegmafia on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:20 am

15 S.Hogg
14. L.Williams
13. J.Davies
12. A.Dunbar
10. P.Jackson
9. G.Laidlaw
8. L.Picamoles
7. H.Watson
6. S.Warburton
5. J.Gray
4. I. Henderson
3. Z.Fagerson
2. J.George
1. A.Levotti

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:24 am

There's 15 in a rugby team.

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Post by propdavid_london on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:27 am

Marler doesn't deserve to be in that team!

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Post by tigertattie on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:30 am

No way should Russell be in the team of the week!

If I had to pick a 10 I'd have gone with Sam Davies who although only played half a game, was probably the turning factor in Wales winning against the Azzuri!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:32 am

maestegmafia wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Well JD was rubbish and JJ offered very little in attack.

Daly can only be in there for 1 long range kick, as he offered nothing outside of that, similar with Farrell.

Jon Davies who scored one try and set up another?

I didn't think he was so bad.


I thought he was pretty awful for most of the game tbh. Yes Wales cut loose in the 2nd half but that shouldn't mask an all round poor performance. Similar story for England, we don't really deserve for anyone to be any team of the week.

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Post by Scottrf on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:36 am

tigertattie wrote:No way should Russell be in the team of the week!

If I had to pick a 10 I'd have gone with Sam Davies who although only played half a game, was probably the turning factor in Wales winning against the Azzuri!
To be fair, there's not an easier job in the 6N than second half vs Italy.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:55 am

I did not see enough of the Italy/Wales game to name my own team, so put up The Times team for people's outrage. Personally just 3 Scots n that team seems silly, but the 7 in the original quoted team seems too many.

Times Team:

Spedding (good but Hogg was ultimately more influential - and just as good)
Earls
Lamerat
Farrell
Daly
Jackson
Laidlaw
Picamoles
Gourdon
Wilson
Gray sr
Jones
Francis (Was his cameo for the bench really that good?)
Guirado
McGrath

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 9:57 am

Telegraph:

Hogg
Maitland
Dunbar
Farrell
Vakatawa
Lopes
Laidlaw
Picamoles
Gourdon
Warburton
Gray (Jr)
Gray (Sr)
Furlong
Guirado
McGrath

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:00 am

ESPN (Lions qualified only)

Hogg
North
Henshaw
Williams
Daly
Farrell
Laidlaw
Strauss
Warburton
Itoje(!!!!!)
Gray
Gray
Furlong
Best
Evans

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Post by maestegmafia on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:02 am

Scottrf wrote:
tigertattie wrote:No way should Russell be in the team of the week!

If I had to pick a 10 I'd have gone with Sam Davies who although only played half a game, was probably the turning factor in Wales winning against the Azzuri!
To be fair, there's not an easier job in the 6N than second half vs Italy.

That's true. He did well though in attack and better kicking game than most

Paddy Jackson was the lad I thought played the best at flyhalf

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Post by beshocked on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:06 am

I thought Paddy Jackson got outplayed by Russell in the first half. Russell managed to get Scotland quite a few good territory gains.

Russell struggled in the 2nd half but did enough damage in the 1st.

Russell just about edged the battle of 10s IMO.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:12 am

beshocked wrote:I thought Paddy Jackson got outplayed by Russell in the first half. Russell managed to get Scotland quite a few good territory gains.

Russell struggled in the 2nd half but did enough damage in the 1st.

Russell just about edged the battle of 10s IMO.

I thought Russell was, along with the front row, amongst the few Scots who struggled. I would even say that Scotlands first half performance were despite his form. He has been excellent for Glasgow in most games this season (except against Munster perhaps) but this weekend was some way below that. I felt Jackson was the better player on Saturday.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:19 am

Hogg
Maitland
Henshaw
Dunbar
Vakatawa
Russell
Serin
Picamoles
Watson
Gourdon
Gray
Gray
Furlong
Guirado
McGrath

with the caveat that I didn't watch the Italy-Wales game so won't include any of those. A few thoughts. Gone with Henshaw out of position at OC, but he can play there, and none of the OCs on show were particularly impressive IMO. Gourdon goes to blindside, but the French play left-right, and Gourdon is a N8 anyway. This allows me to accomodate Watson, who was excellent. Guirado makes hooker sort of by default, did the basics well but none of the hookers stood out for me: Ford was OK, Hartley looked undercooked, and Best's throwing was wonky.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:22 am

Very brave to go with no goal kicker MfC.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:28 am

Russell's been kicking pretty well for Glasgow this season, around the 80% mark. He'd do fine.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:31 am

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Russell's been kicking pretty well for Glasgow this season, around the 80% mark. He'd do fine.

Probably. I do feel however that he did not play very well at all on Saturday, while (with the usual caveats regarding speed of service) Laidlaw was better than Serin.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:39 am

LondonTiger wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:Russell's been kicking pretty well for Glasgow this season, around the 80% mark. He'd do fine.

Probably. I do feel however that he did not play very well at all on Saturday, while (with the usual caveats regarding speed of service) Laidlaw was better than Serin.

I didn't think it was his best game, but I genuinely think the threat he poses running with the ball, combined with his speed of pass off either hand, helps create so much space for those around him, and played a large role in Scotland's threat ball in hand, especially for Hogg's second try. A case of not doing anything spectacular, but making other players look better IMO. Might be biased though... Jackson I thought had a very good second half, but was anonymous in the first half, and with the amount of ball Ireland had in good positions thought he could have imposed himself more on the game, albeit I know Ireland play a tighter gameplan. Lopez was solid without being spectacular, missed a simple penalty too. Ford was pretty poor.

Laidlaw was his usual self. Some excellent game management, kicked his goals beautifully, but as you say, at times a bit ponderous. Sometimes a good thing, but there were a couple of occasions where firing the ball out quicker would have been a clear benefit. I was impressed by Serin, I think he could become a fine player, and thought Noves pulling him off was a poor decision.

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Post by Poorfour on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:55 am

You can only play what's in front of you, but I would still say Wales's game against Italy wasn't much more than a training run. We'll have a much better sense of how good they are next week.

I'd start with the Scotland side from 1-15 and then add in a few Frenchmen. I don't think anyone in an England or Ireland shirt did enough to justify inclusion.
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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 10:56 am

Poorfour wrote:You can only play what's in front of you, but I would still say Wales's game against Italy wasn't much more than a training run. We'll have a much better sense of how good they are next week.

I'd start with the Scotland side from 1-15 and then add in a few Frenchmen. I don't think anyone in an England or Ireland shirt did enough to justify inclusion.

Not even the Irish props who were marmalising the young Scots?

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Post by Poorfour on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:08 am

LondonTiger wrote:
Poorfour wrote:You can only play what's in front of you, but I would still say Wales's game against Italy wasn't much more than a training run. We'll have a much better sense of how good they are next week.

I'd start with the Scotland side from 1-15 and then add in a few Frenchmen. I don't think anyone in an England or Ireland shirt did enough to justify inclusion.

Not even the Irish props who were marmalising the young Scots?

While making a complete hash of their own lineout?
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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:33 am

Poorfour wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Poorfour wrote:You can only play what's in front of you, but I would still say Wales's game against Italy wasn't much more than a training run. We'll have a much better sense of how good they are next week.

I'd start with the Scotland side from 1-15 and then add in a few Frenchmen. I don't think anyone in an England or Ireland shirt did enough to justify inclusion.

Not even the Irish props who were marmalising the young Scots?

While making a complete hash of their own lineout?

I thought their lifting was ok. The messed up ones were either the throw or faulty hands.

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Post by munkian on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:43 am

Best for Lions Captain Laugh Laugh Laugh
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Post by GunsGermsV2 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:49 am

None of the possible Lions captains had a great weekend. Best did have an off day alright but that doesnt happen too often for him.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 11:53 am

munkian wrote:Best for Lions Captain Laugh Laugh Laugh

What's the Lions, munk? Do so ever explain it in great detail....................... over on the Lions threads Wink

This is serious business stuff here - this is Nations at war.

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Post by True Raven on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 12:05 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:None of the possible Lions captains had a great weekend. Best did have an off day alright but that doesnt happen too often for him.

Warburton did Whistle

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Post by R!skysports on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 12:32 pm

True Raven wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:None of the possible Lions captains had a great weekend. Best did have an off day alright but that doesnt happen too often for him.

Warburton did Whistle

Laidlaw did

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