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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 9:35 am

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I figure a thread for cricket stuff from around the world that doesn't warrant a series-thread is useful
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 1:22 am

Indeed. Zimbabwe will be praying for a tie or a washout - the only way they can now get to the World Cup.

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Post by KP_fan on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 8:17 am

The WI has performed and only sneaked in through a lucky break confirms they belong "there"
In the B league
For tests also BD, Zim, Afg, Ire & WI should be playing each other largely and only sparingly with the A league
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Re: Rest of the World

Post by Duty281 on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 10:52 am

Ireland have to defend 209 to go through to the World Cup.

I make them narrow favourites. Very tough to bat out there, plenty of cloud and low bounce.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 12:12 pm

Duty281 wrote:Ireland have to defend 209 to go through to the World Cup.

I make them narrow favourites. Very tough to bat out there, plenty of cloud and low bounce.

I thought they needed 250 to win personally - not sure their bowling attack is great, and the Afghans have some good bats
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 2:14 pm

After an excellent Afghanistan start, it has become a real tight one.

43 needed off 36, six wickets left. The pitch is so slow.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 2:55 pm

Shenwari played one of the worst one day innings I’ve ever seen, fortunately his teammates got Afghanistan home
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Re: Rest of the World

Post by Duty281 on Fri 23 Mar 2018, 6:08 pm

Sad that Ireland will not be at the next World Cup. They've been a fixture since beating Pakistan in 2007.

But Afghanistan's qualification means that one of the greatest sporting stories continues.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 on Sun 25 Mar 2018, 7:46 pm

Duty281 wrote:Sad that Ireland will not be at the next World Cup. They've been a fixture since beating Pakistan in 2007.

But Afghanistan's qualification means that one of the greatest sporting stories continues.

The biggest gain is they will play nine matches in the World Cup and that will help them a lot. The day was not that good for Ireland but I congratulate them also for giving a good fight.

Now these two nations will play test matches. My only suggestion to the ICC is that make the schedule such that if any team tour India they must play 1 test match against Afghanistan and the same for Ireland that any England touring nation must play a test match with Ireland. In this way they will get started with test matches and will improve quickly.
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Post by wisden on Wed 28 Mar 2018, 1:35 pm

The ICC qualifiers were a fantastic tournament, full of shocks, suprises and close games...really enjoyed the whole comp as a whole, shame for Zim that they didn't qualify but what a fantastic comeback from Afghanistan!

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Post by wisden on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 11:20 am

Sad times for Kenyan cricket, the government have folded the Kenya cricket association..... thanks for the memories!

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Re: Rest of the World

Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 4:46 pm

I see Colin Bland has died; wonder if it's realistic to suggest he was the first Test-class cricketer to be known for his fielding (perhaps apart from a handful of close catchers, usually from Surrey), his batting or bowling second?

Wiki quotes Peter van der Merve as saying of Bland, "He revolutionised the attitude to fielding, and set a standard not yet equalled".

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Post by guildfordbat on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 10:56 pm

Hi Kwini - I never saw Colin Bland play but it's clear from my reading and chats with others that he was a pioneer for high quality fielding before there was any expectation of it by teams or spectators. If I get the opportunity this season, I'll ask Micky Stewart his thoughts about Bland. As you undoubtedly had in mind and for the benefit of younger posters - besides being the father of Alec, Micky was a specialist and exceptionally successful close to the wicket fielder for Surrey throughout the '50s and '60s.

PS Sadly, I also heard today that Graeme Pollock is in poor health.


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Re: Rest of the World

Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 17 Apr 2018, 4:42 pm

Yup, Never saw Bland live either, missed the 1965 Tour (tho DID see the 1960 crew).

Saw to hear that about Greame Pollock - the greatest of the lot in possibly cricket's greatest family?

High standard of close catchers in those Surrey teams . . . .

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Re: Rest of the World

Post by Duty281 on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 3:38 pm

What a sh!te idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43824037

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Re: Rest of the World

Post by Galted on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 5:36 pm

Duty281 wrote:What a sh!te idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43824037

Maybe they shouldn't bother with any cricket at all.  Have a pitch inspection, toss the coin and then go straight to the interminable post-match interviews and presentations.  It's unfair on the p*ssed up spectators to expect them to have to concentrate on an actual game.
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Re: Rest of the World

Post by Gooseberry Yesterday at 8:14 am

My favourite bit of that article:

The new competition's board unanimously supports the development of the 100-ball concept


36 games in 38 days during the Blast window... presumably that means theyll play 2 games in a day?
Im all for innovation and that but they are only garuanteeing incomes of 1.3 million for this, that wouldnt even buy you a top draw playewr in the IPL. Its not going to enable counties to bring in significantly better squads or pay the top English talent enough that they feel they dont need to top up in IPL anymore, but will place even more demands on the their top players. Whilst a 15 over knock about wont be as taxing to the likes of Stokes as a 5 day test match its still time spent playing that should be spent training and resting. 
Its goign to leave little or no time for preperation and working on skills and if anything could stop players improving. Playing competitive cricket almost daily for a 5 week period in the middle of a busy international summer risks exhausting our already overworked internationals and stopping the younger players getting the time they need with coaches. If England choose to rest players more during the domestic summer then this only serves to further dilute the quality of those comeptitions...which frankly is pretty poor anyway.

The ECB was ahead of the curve with T20, but failed to capitalise on its potential. Now they are trying to shoehorn in an even dafter format just to bring in spectator numbers with little or no evidence I can see that theres a demand for from these "young people".
What would really make a difference is getting the top stars in and getting the compeition the global
trying to e more posiitive ...this could be seen as a long term investment by the ECB with a view to where things will be in a deacade, rather than the view we take which is where they were 2 decades ago.
Maybe a few years down the line 100 ball cricket will have that global reach, and the likes of Gayle will see an opportunity to prolong their careers with minimal effort in a format that best utilises their raw power approach. Being the inovater here could pull a global novelty audience in the early days and help establish a brand in a way the Blast has spectaculalry failed to do, and grow it into a rival for the IPL with quality players.
If they can learn from the mistakes mad eiwth devleoping the T20 competition (including Stanford) and steal a march on the rest of the world they have a chance of creating a viable brand. This takes a view that the cricket as a proper game is gone and its now become an arms race to get the silliest format to appealt to the brain dead and patronise the young. That income and viewing figures trump the needs of a skill based sport and the only way for domestic professional cricket to survive at all is to generate enough income to keep employing people.

Persoanlly Id prefer a middle ground appreoach of a more radical overhaul of the Bloast comeptition including a move away from the 16 county approach. Alongside that reform and reduce the CC, and yes scrap some first class counties. Accept that cricket simply isnt big enough to sustain the current number of full time professional counties and that the quality of the players and comeptitions isnt good enough to serve the national teams. Demand higher standards instead of higher player numbers. Invest more money in quality academies and coaching coaches. Make sure the pitches are condusive to developing a range of bowlers capable of performing globally rather than enabling the likes of Darren Stevens to thrive. 

A 100 ball comeptition does nothing in the short term to help England, obnly provides a small patch to the leaking finances of the counties, adds to market confussion, and threatens to take interest away from existing comeptitions. Its also clearly a stupid game with little true sporting merit.
There amy be something in it for the long term but its a bleak future for cricket as a sport if thats the case. And we dont even get to moan about the BCCI ruining cricket.

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