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Team	_________	Manager
Kalamazoo Outrage	_________	Hero
Shakhtar Senseless	_________	Marky
Fußball	_________	Trebs
SAS	_________	Olly
Melbourne Victory	_________	Afro
Deportivo Wanka	_________	Nando
Olympique Marswag	_________	Miky
Melbourne City	_________	Twist
Wellington Pheonix	_________	Bam
Fiorentina Turner	_________	Tino

Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
	_________	Confirmation	_________
	_________	Loans	_________

Part of the magic on a switch to FIFA is that your team isn't as crap anymore! Mine's actually the worst now for overall rating, so I'm fine with a top up of cash to improve mine

What are the overall ratings, have they been posted?

Hero wrote:Part of the magic on a switch to FIFA is that your team isn't as crap anymore! Mine's actually the worst now for overall rating, so I'm fine with a top up of cash to improve mine

Or, we could wait for the reboot and all work from a level playing field.

Trebs wrote:

Hero wrote:Part of the magic on a switch to FIFA is that your team isn't as crap anymore! Mine's actually the worst now for overall rating, so I'm fine with a top up of cash to improve mine

Or, we could wait for the reboot and all work from a level playing field.

It wouldn't be level because Hero's team would be better than mine until then

In seriousness though Trebs are you def in if we go with a FIFA based league for this season using the squads?
I also want to add a caveat to that of if you are in that if for any reason in the league something goes wrong I don't want to see a 'I told you so' or 'I said we should have had a reboot'.
Let's all be Positive Patricks going forward on this rather than Negative Nancys.

Hero wrote:Let's all be Positive Patricks going forward on this rather than Negative Nancys.

I've not checked the rulebook but I'm fairly sure this comment is grounds for being kicked out of the league.

I did nearly say Positive Percys but thought that might be a bit close to home to one of your wrestling personas.

Hero wrote:I did nearly say Positive Percys but thought that might be a bit close to home to one of your wrestling personas.

Says the guy who still calls himself Hero

Hero wrote:In seriousness though Trebs are you def in if we go with a FIFA based league for this season using the squads?
I also want to add a caveat to that of if you are in that if for any reason in the league something goes wrong I don't want to see a 'I told you so' or 'I said we should have had a reboot'.
Let's all be Positive Patricks going forward on this rather than Negative Nancys.

I've made my position very clear, I've pointed out the flaws.

I am a fan of a FIFA league in general but the timing is wrong. So no, I'm not going to commit to being in. I'm committed to a season 2 with the 'traditional' tactics and votes.

you really gonna walk away?

Trial isn't finished yet and nor has everyone made a decision on its success.

Also is there a link to watch back the match between myself and Bam?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/241013318

Marky wrote:Trial isn't finished yet and nor has everyone made a decision on its success.

Also is there a link to watch back the match between myself and Bam?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/241013318

Not sure what you gain or lose by opting out.

You may well be right, but it is only a game and the worse that can happen is that you are proved right.

You've got to admit it has roused people's enthusiasm

I think it's different, and for that reason alone it's worth exploring.

not sure why trebs is so against it, when he has such a strong side.  can't be the tactics side of things surely, not with such a small amount of words available - not digging anyone out, it's hard with a limit but I can't do another 20 weeks of reading "show the man the line" "alternate which one pushes forward" etc etc

Trebs team is likely to have more success via FIFA than tactics but I expect him to be one of the front runners in both with that team.

I tried to convince him myself but hes refused to carry on so ive given up.

Hasn't he only said he's not committing to being in .. but he's still in the trial so may decide to join later

What we can do is keep the team on anyway with generic tactics, still gives people games each week to watch and someone like Nadz may want it.

Trebs being a mourinho by trying to stick with ineffective tactics of the past whilst Guardiola teabags him at every opportunity.

What's tonight's game Hero, if you have time?

Watched the Marky v Bam game and Hero v Miky first game.

One thing that is clear from those, and mine and Ollys game, is that squad depth is much more important. Before substitutions had minimal impact. Now when subs are made the quality coming on is a big drop from the player being replaced and the difference is noticeable.

Also subs could be a bit random. Miky’s best player (in that game in particular) was taken off really early for some reason.

Just got back from hospital as Mrs has had high blood pressure (probably putting up with me) but she has gone straight to bed so can do a few games. Who'd like to see what?

Like to see me v nando. I think that was the next game on the list

Current first teams ratings by the way are ( the 3 numbers equal attack, midfield, defence in that order)

Adelaide (Hero) - 79, 81, 79
Brisbane (Miky) - 83, 81, 82
Central Coast (Olly) - 84, 77, 79
Melbourne Victory (Afro) 81, 81, 80
Melbourne City (Twist) 80, 81, 79
Newcastle Jets (Trebs) 84, 82, 82
Perth Glory (Marky) 80, 81, 79
Sydney (Nando) 83, 81, 84
Wellington Phoenix (Bam) 79, 80, 79
WS Wanderers (Tino) 80, 80, 80

streaming it now

Trebs looks great but I think he suffers from depth. I can see my team with the players I have being grinders that nick the old goal.

Well that was depressing pretty sure Twizzle's side has only had 2 shots

they did!

Yep it was a great game. You dominated. Though hero forgot to amend my team to tactics I posted so can't really take the credit!

Have to say you get really into watching it

It seems based on the ovr ratings the squads are pretty even

Hope the better halfs ok Hero

Hope Mrs Hero is fine!

Looking at these ratings, is the overall rating the average of the 3? Trebs, Miky and Nando look favourites based on that

Hero wrote:Current first teams ratings by the way are ( the 3 numbers equal attack, midfield, defence, Overall in that order)

Adelaide (Hero) - 79, 81, 79, 80
Brisbane (Miky) - 83, 81, 82, 82
Central Coast (Olly) - 84, 77, 79, 80
Melbourne Victory (Afro) 81, 81, 80, 81
Melbourne City (Twist) 80, 81, 79, 80
Newcastle Jets  (Trebs) 84, 82, 82, 83
Perth Glory (Marky) 80, 81, 79, 80
Sydney (Nando) 83, 81, 84, 83
Wellington Phoenix (Bam) 79, 80, 79, 79
WS Wanderers (Tino) 80, 80, 80,80

any side making a bit of a tinkering will be right up there

Shows that overall wise everyone has a crack at it.

yea, not a big spread between the teams....think it's pretty obvious with human opinion/bias (not necessarily a bad thing) there's a big gap in how people rate players differently

Brooksey79 wrote:yea, not a big spread between the teams....think it's pretty obvious with human opinion/bias (not necessarily a bad thing) there's a big gap in how people rate players differently

Oh totally, you were adrift by some distance and I won the league with 2 games to spare yet FIFA rates our teams the same.

Right what's the current state of play, what's everyone's thoughts on what the next step is?

still feel my best player in season one (Belotti) is now the most likley candidate for replacement should we go full FIFA

I'm more keen to go with FIFA than another season of the path we're on....not just because it gives me an artificial leg-up...I signed who I signed cus I thought they would be rated anyway.

it's a fair bit of leg-work for you though

Hero wrote:Right what's the current state of play, what's everyone's thoughts on what the next step is?

Do I need to declare my position?

Providing hero is ok with the workload I’m all for it

I'm also for it, but think we need to work out whats happening with prize money/transfers etc and put the full proposal to a vote

I'm all fine workload in regards to fifa etc, for anything else though others could do with doing.
Main thing I request is squad lists show who the player is with in RL, and if a player is sold can it be back to that club on the confirmation page just so it makes it a lot easier to find that player if needed again.

I would like it if we could have a Top Scorer/Assist league this time round, before there wasn't any point to it but now it does actually happen in game etc.
I'll personally be adding player rating scores to my team page after each game and I wondered if this something we could do collectively and have a team of the week? Again it's not necessary but these little things I think help discussion and length of the league.

Happy to help with as much of that as I can

i'm 3 weeks into a 3 month notice period at work, so will likely have plenty of time on my hands for the next couple of months!

Trebs, yes declare your intentions


Hero, I can help out as best I can...

presume we'd still be using TM values not FIFA's...

be nice if now that no-one is voting, we could have some kind of betting

I'm not willing to take part in the fifa league is the straight answer.

I would do season 2 as planned in a tactics style league. And have a fifa run cup competition of some sort on the side.

After that, reboot teams and go forward in a fully fifa league. Fifa 19 will probably be out around then anyway.

can I ask why you are so against it?

Brooksey79 wrote:can I ask why  you are so against it?

Because I don't think its right to shift the goalposts in such a dramatic way when plans for season 2 have been made on the basis of it being a tactics league.