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Post by LordDowlais on Mon 14 May - 19:40

So the Celtic teams are ruling Europe this year, can it be done again next year ?

No doubt there will be more moaning about how the Pro14 teams rest their players, and how unfair it is blah, blah blah.

Leinster will always be at the top table with their resources but let's hope Cardiff Blues can build on their triumph for next season.

The Celts are leading the way again.Yahoo

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Mon 14 May - 19:42

Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

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Post by The Oracle on Mon 14 May - 19:59

This is not going to end well!
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Post by Pot Hale on Mon 14 May - 19:59

No 7&1/2 wrote:Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

Agreed. Funny how it becomes the Celtic teams all of a sudden.
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Post by munkian on Mon 14 May - 20:04

But but but resting players !!!
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Post by The Oracle on Mon 14 May - 20:17

The Dragons even managed to rest players while they were on the pitch playing! How else can you explain 2 wins all season! picard
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Post by RugbyFan100 on Mon 14 May - 20:41

Pot Hale wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

Agreed.  Funny how it becomes the Celtic teams all of a sudden.  

We could still have:

Champions Cup winners: Irish
Challenge Cup winners: Welsh
Pro14 winners: Scottish

So it's very much a decent season for the 'celts' in my opinion.

That said it is cyclical, and it's a post Lions year. Ireland were a last minute drop goal away from not winning the grand slam. And I don't recall many people saying how great England's rugby structures were when they won the 6 nations for the last 2 years previous to this one, but suddenly Ireland win one and it's like "see, look at the Irish, that's the model to follow".


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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 14 May - 20:44

The Oracle wrote:The Dragons even managed to rest players while they were on the pitch playing!  How else can you explain 2 wins all season! picard

Two wins in the league. We won 7 games in all tournaments, which is an excellent return.

Crying or Very sad

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Post by Exiledinborders on Mon 14 May - 21:13

LordDowlais wrote:So the Celtic teams are ruling Europe this year, can it be done again next year ?
No. Normal service will be resumed.


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Post by Cardiff Dave on Mon 14 May - 21:33

The Oracle wrote:The Dragons even managed to rest players while they were on the pitch playing!  How else can you explain 2 wins all season! picard

Fallow.

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Post by Pot Hale on Mon 14 May - 22:58

Cardiff Dave wrote:
The Oracle wrote:The Dragons even managed to rest players while they were on the pitch playing!  How else can you explain 2 wins all season! picard

Fallow.

Jackman.
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Post by The Oracle on Mon 14 May - 23:55

Pot Hale wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
The Oracle wrote:The Dragons even managed to rest players while they were on the pitch playing!  How else can you explain 2 wins all season! picard

Fallow.

Jackman.

The Trojan horse.
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Post by The Great Aukster on Tue 15 May - 0:01

No 7&1/2 wrote:Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

Since the RWC & Lions go in four year cycles and the Champs Cup has been running four years -
2015 - 2018 Seven of the eight finalists were either English or French (2EP, 5T14)
2011 - 2014 5/8 (2EP, 3T14)
2007 - 2010 6/8 (3EP, 3T14)
2003 - 2006 7/8 (1EP, 6T14)
1999 - 2002 5/8 (3EP, 2T14)
1996 - 1998 5/6 (2EP, 3T14)

Three year cycles -
16-18 5/6
13-15 6/6
10-12 3/6
07-09 4/6
04-06 5/6
01-03 5/6
98-00 4/6
96-97 3/4

Five year cycles -
14-18 9/10
09-13 6/10
04-08 8/10
99-03 7/10
96-98 5/6

No obvious patterns other than the finals are consistently dominated by the English and French teams.

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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 15 May - 0:39

The Great Aukster wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

Since the RWC & Lions go in four year cycles and the Champs Cup has been running four years -
2015 - 2018 Seven of the eight finalists were either English or French (2EP, 5T14)
2011 - 2014 5/8 (2EP, 3T14)
2007 - 2010 6/8 (3EP, 3T14)
2003 - 2006 7/8 (1EP, 6T14)
1999 - 2002 5/8 (3EP, 2T14)
1996 - 1998 5/6 (2EP, 3T14)


No obvious patterns other than the finals are consistently dominated by the English and French teams.

So, from that I read 22 finalists from France, 13 from England, 10 from Ireland and 1 from Wales (Cardiff in 96) - so perhaps fairer to say finals have been dominated by 3 countries?

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Post by Pot Hale on Tue 15 May - 1:10

LondonTiger wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Natural cycles. No one stays at the top every time. And you can look back at when there were a few grumbles in the last couple of years and see me saying the same thing.

Since the RWC & Lions go in four year cycles and the Champs Cup has been running four years -
2015 - 2018 Seven of the eight finalists were either English or French (2EP, 5T14)
2011 - 2014 5/8 (2EP, 3T14)
2007 - 2010 6/8 (3EP, 3T14)
2003 - 2006 7/8 (1EP, 6T14)
1999 - 2002 5/8 (3EP, 2T14)
1996 - 1998 5/6 (2EP, 3T14)


No obvious patterns other than the finals are consistently dominated by the English and French teams.

So, from that I read 22 finalists from France, 13 from England, 10 from Ireland and 1 from Wales (Cardiff in 96) - so perhaps fairer to say finals have been dominated by  3 countries?

Sshh - you’re ruining the Celtic myth.


France v England 7
France v Ireland 4
France v France 5
France v Wales 1
Ireland v England 4
Ireland v Ireland 1
England v England 1
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Post by Brendan on Tue 15 May - 5:14

Surely the answer is France as fewer wins than they should as they have produced the most finalist by far.

There is a slight less chance of having an all French final as having no French finalist. They really are the best country.

Next year is the world cup so all the Celtic teams might have to do a Scarlets next year just to get to the quarters after the national side's a have long WC

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Post by The Great Aukster on Tue 15 May - 6:06

Just like their wine, in the French case money can't buy you bottle!

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Post by The Oracle on Tue 15 May - 17:22

The Great Aukster wrote:Just like their wine, in the French case money can't buy you bottle!


The Welsh being just like our wine too - not very good!
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Post by Cardiff Dave on Tue 15 May - 18:07

The Oracle wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:Just like their wine, in the French case money can't buy you bottle!


The Welsh being just like our wine too - not very good!

Ewe can't beat a Welsh whine. We're the best.

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Post by Brendan on Tue 15 May - 19:56

To be fair Scottish teams have the same odds as having an all Scottish final as no Scottish finalist so does that make them the best (Just like their wine if they made any it would be the best)

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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 15 May - 20:00

One swallow doesn't make a summer................. Whistle
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Post by Brendan on Wed 16 May - 0:16

TightHEAD wrote:One swallow doesn't make a summer................. Whistle

I think you'll find most people saying that.

Will be interesting how the first two rounds of the European competitions go next season as all the teams would be hoping of an extra game or two than last time. Plus it's a long flight/jet lag back

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Post by George Carlin on Wed 16 May - 15:36

Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.
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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 16 May - 17:23

George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

every time I see your location I worry for you.

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Post by tigertattie on Wed 16 May - 19:28

George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

21st is surely the Night King then?
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Post by George Carlin on Thu 17 May - 4:15

LondonTiger wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

every time I see your location I worry for you.
True dat. I am Vitamin D deficient because of the lack of regular sun exposure and have to take supplements. 

This is because everyone thinks I will go up like a strip of magnesium the moment that I step outside.
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Post by Intotouch on Thu 17 May - 10:26

George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

George I think that you're being a little hard on the White Walkers here. Mostly they look calm and collected to me. An occasional scowl or shout maybe but mostly they seem like a thoughtful, serious group of psychotic immortals who don't talk. They remind me more of senior lecturers in a college who figured out how to live forever but not how to smile, laugh or nod their heads and who are fed up with being stuck with teaching undergraduates who insist on making them speak. So they solved the problem by getting rid of the source of this annoyance. All the humans. Then they'll go back to their libraries and research labs and write pithy articles for academic journals to be printed by their zombie underlings. You see? Not very Scottish at all. Or is it....

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Post by George Carlin on Thu 17 May - 14:20

Intotouch wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

George I think that you're being a little hard on the White Walkers here. Mostly they look calm and collected to me. An occasional scowl or shout maybe but mostly they seem like a thoughtful, serious group of psychotic immortals who don't talk. They remind me more of senior lecturers in a college who figured out how to live forever but not how to smile, laugh or nod their heads and who are fed up with being stuck with teaching undergraduates who insist on making them speak. So they solved the problem by getting rid of the source of this annoyance. All the humans. Then they'll go back to their libraries and research labs and write pithy articles for academic journals to be printed by their zombie underlings. You see? Not very Scottish at all. Or is it....
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Post by tigertattie on Thu 17 May - 18:28

George Carlin wrote:
Intotouch wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

George I think that you're being a little hard on the White Walkers here. Mostly they look calm and collected to me. An occasional scowl or shout maybe but mostly they seem like a thoughtful, serious group of psychotic immortals who don't talk. They remind me more of senior lecturers in a college who figured out how to live forever but not how to smile, laugh or nod their heads and who are fed up with being stuck with teaching undergraduates who insist on making them speak. So they solved the problem by getting rid of the source of this annoyance. All the humans. Then they'll go back to their libraries and research labs and write pithy articles for academic journals to be printed by their zombie underlings. You see? Not very Scottish at all. Or is it....
Laugh

He makes a valid point. We are a rather boisterous and loud bunch!

And do the white walkers even drink Irn Bru?
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Post by Intotouch on Sat 19 May - 10:45

tigertattie wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
Intotouch wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Oh. I thought that this was just a thread about it being good to be a celt generally. 

I was going to add that skincare in the summer is a definite downside. 

My theory is that White Walkers are based on Scottish people. Nobody else is that blue eyed, ghostly white, monosyllabic and angry all the time.

George I think that you're being a little hard on the White Walkers here. Mostly they look calm and collected to me. An occasional scowl or shout maybe but mostly they seem like a thoughtful, serious group of psychotic immortals who don't talk. They remind me more of senior lecturers in a college who figured out how to live forever but not how to smile, laugh or nod their heads and who are fed up with being stuck with teaching undergraduates who insist on making them speak. So they solved the problem by getting rid of the source of this annoyance. All the humans. Then they'll go back to their libraries and research labs and write pithy articles for academic journals to be printed by their zombie underlings. You see? Not very Scottish at all. Or is it....
Laugh

He makes a valid point. We are a rather boisterous and loud bunch!

And do the white walkers even drink Irn Bru?

You mean she makes a valid point. And no I don't think they drink anything at all. No wonder they don't smile much! Not like the Scots at all really...

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