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This Week's Fixtures

Week 9
Perth Morning Glory v Melbourne Victory
Western Sydney Wanderers v Brisbane Roar
Melbourne City v Adelaide United
Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets
Central Coast v Sid Knee FC  

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Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VM9eIonYMyXCXpQOBjAJylh3wihazcw8RKtLLHiD8HI/htmlview#gid=1996389080

Team	_________	Manager
Adelaide United	_________	Hero
Brisbane Roar	_________	Fluxy
Central Coast Mariners	_________	Olly
Melbourne City	_________	Twist
Melbourne Victory	_________	Afro
Newcastle Jets	_________	Nadz
Perth Glory	_________	Marky
Sid Knee CF	_________	Nando
Wellington Phoenix	_________	Bam
WS Wanderers	_________	Tino

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Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
Tactics	_________	Confirmation	_________
Results	_________		_________
Yellow Cards	_________		_________

How much cash you want for him?

Make an offer and ill come back to you

Can I move Brahim Diaz to the youth team as I have 26 players after today's transfers?

nadeem2099 wrote:Can I move Brahim Diaz to the youth team as I have 26 players after today's transfers?

Or just give him back to me for my squad filler!

You can have him for his release price.

Based on best starting XIs our league teams are really frightening now...

ADE 89 85 83
BRI 84 83 83
CCM 83 82 84
MLV 88 85 86
MLC 83 82 80
NEW 85 83 83
PER 80 83 83
SYD 87 84 85
WEL 88 84 85
WSW 85 80 81

Shows the importance of tactics.

I struggled to a bottom half finish and have the highest total, whilst Twist won the title and has the lowest

Top of the league

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Top of the league

I have updated the table in my excel sheet already if you want a copy for prosperity!

Top of the league having played two of the teams people expect to challenge and one of the dark horses

Afro wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Top of the league

I have updated the table in my excel sheet already if you want a copy for prosperity!

Top of the league having played two of the teams people expect to challenge and one of the dark horses

I always felt I was close last season, despite the results not showing it. A little tweak made to my tactics seems to be working, and I’m the Leicester of this league

As it stands:

______________	__Played__	____Won___	__Drawn___	___Lost___	____GF____	____GA____	____GD____	__Points__
Central Coast	3	2	1	0	6	4	2	7
Adelaide United	2	1	1	0	7	2	5	4
Wellington Phoenix	3	1	1	1	4	1	3	4
Melbourne Victory	2	1	1	0	1	0	1	4
Newcastle Jets	2	1	0	1	4	2	2	3
Western Sydney Wanderers	2	1	0	1	4	4	0	3
Sid Knee FC	2	1	0	1	2	2	0	3
Brisbane Vengeance	2	0	1	1	0	3	-3	1
Melbourne City	2	0	1	1	0	4	-4	1
Perth Morning Glory	2	0	0	2	1	7	-6	0

That table looks magnificent

When do releases refresh if I've already used my 2 this week. Next Tuesday?

nadeem2099 wrote:When do releases refresh if I've already used my 2 this week. Next Tuesday?

Yes, next Tuesday.

Gonna be quite a knockdown when we reset for next season, going from Neymar and Dybala to some League 2 meathead etc (if we choose League 2).

Be one of the rare occasions that Jermaine Beckford becomes a Galactico!

I still think (and would be up for organizing) a draft of some sorts for season 4

10 teams. 20 similar rated players per position. Snake draft order (ie. pick at 1 and 20, 2 and 19 etc)

Would take a little time I guess would be the main issue

Apart from the time issue (which is more an annoyance than a real issue) my other issue with a draft would be the initial power level of the teams would probably end up already too high.
I'd like the league to start off really quite towards the bottom end of power, if we drafted at that bog end then that could end up really badly for some managers who don't research the players. Whilst I'd like all managers to have/gain a modicum of knowledge about their team as the league goes on I think it's unreasonable to expect managers to research circa 250 players from league 2.

Whilst I fancy a draft, this would massively add to the set-up work for Hero. With pre-existing teams, he takes them as they are on FIFA. With draft teams he has to move in all the players for all the teams, and move out all the existing players for the team he is using as proxy.

I think it isn't worth doing a draft and taking existing teams would be better

Leagues I was thinking of using...

Argentina Superliga
Austria Bundesliga
Chile Campeonato
Chinese Super League
Colombian Liga Aguila
Denmark Alka Superliga
England Football League 2
Germany 3. Liga
Japan Yasuda J1
Korea K League
Mexico Liga MX
Norway Eliteserien
Poland Ekstraklasa
Rep Ireland SSE League
Saudi Arabia Jameel League
Sweden Allsvenskan
Switzerland Super League
USA MLS

Of the above my preference is the Republic of Ireland, Switzerland or again using the Australian as they each have 10 teams in their league so it's tidier for me when scrolling through the teams and moving players about etc.

Initially I thought that having similar level teams from different leagues, but I can definitely see the benefit of picking a single league. I'm not fussed about having similar level teams tbh and whether I have the worse team or not

Is there any likelihood of attracting additional managers now, given how well the league has worked?

Afro wrote:Initially I thought that having similar level teams from different leagues, but I can definitely see the benefit of picking a single league. I'm not fussed about having similar level teams tbh and whether I have the worse team or not

Is there any likelihood of attracting additional managers now, given how well the league has worked?

It'd be great if we could, even getting back some of the guys from yesteryear, sure the likes of Viva and Azzy would love the idea of a Fifa based results league.

Not bothered which league tbh. A season in the team is unlikely to resemble what I start with, whichever league it is from

Hero wrote:

Afro wrote:Initially I thought that having similar level teams from different leagues, but I can definitely see the benefit of picking a single league. I'm not fussed about having similar level teams tbh and whether I have the worse team or not

Is there any likelihood of attracting additional managers now, given how well the league has worked?

It'd be great if we could, even getting back some of the guys from yesteryear, sure the likes of Viva and Azzy would love the idea of a Fifa based results league.

I reckon we get a few weeks from the end of this season and start to put the feelers out

How about teams from the rest of the world section?

AEK Athens
CSKA Moscow
Dinamo Kiev
Dinamo Zagreb
HJK Helsinki
Kaizer Chiefs
FC Viktoria Plzeň
Lokomotiv Moscow
Olympiacos CFP
Orlando Pirates
Panathinaikos
PAOK
Shakhtar Donetsk
Slavia Praha
Spartak Moscow
Sparta Praha

Depends which ones, ones like Donetsk and the Moscows would be too high.

Also some of the ratings for Fifa 19 have been released.  100-81 currently out and I can see a lot of pace downgrades EA doing the dirty on Vidal and Robben pacewise

Don't mind which league, also don't mind whether its a standard set up or draft set up

If we want longevity and it to be more than a stockmarket league, then we have to limit the number of players immediately released from the starting squad to immediately bring in higher value players

I'd also put a cap on the rating of players that can be brought into the league in the first season, incrementally increasing it

Just to let you all know Fluxy has agreed to take on Miky/Trebs team, he'll be getting his team sheet up soon.
Cheers Nando for sending me an interim tactics this week.

BamBam wrote:Don't mind which league, also don't mind whether its a standard set up or draft set up

If we want longevity and it to be more than a stockmarket league, then we have to limit the number of players immediately released from the starting squad to immediately bring in higher value players

I'd also put a cap on the rating of players that can be brought into the league in the first season, incrementally increasing it

Agreed. Limited releases, rating cap (would be like a realistic league in the sense that no one with that high a rating would move to a lowly league). Also a lower level of weekly bonus, which can increase as the league progresses

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That table looks magnificent

And upside down

Hero wrote:Just to let you all know Fluxy has agreed to take on Miky/Trebs team, he'll be getting his team sheet up soon.
Cheers Nando for sending me an interim tactics this week.

Morning lads, will get a thread up for Brisbane shortly.

Morning and welcome Fluxy

aye up lads

I'd propose a cap ratings wise of the following:

Season 1: Start 70, mid season increase to 75
Season 2: Start 80, mid season increase to 80
Season 3: Start 85, mid season increase to unlimited
Season 4: FIFA 20 restart.

With the cap ratings that's only for players coming into the league, if a player rating goes up whilst at a team in the league they're not then forced to sell them, if they do though then whilst they have the higher rating they can't then return to the league until the cap increases.

Do the ratings go up? I thought we had to fix it on a particular date otherwise it reset all the teams?

Either way, that looks fine to me other than I think you meant increase to 85 mid-season 2

Hero wrote:I'd propose a cap ratings wise of the following:

Season 1: Start 70, mid season increase to 75
Season 2: Start 80, mid season increase to 80
Season 3: Start 85, mid season increase to unlimited
Season 4: FIFA 20 restart.

With the cap ratings that's only for players coming into the league, if a player rating goes up whilst at a team in the league they're not then forced to sell them, if they do though then whilst they have the higher rating they can't then return to the league until the cap increases.

Oh aye that makes sense

Yes should have been...

Season 1: Start 70, mid season increase to 75
Season 2: Start 80, mid season increase to 85
Season 3: Start 90, mid season increase to unlimited
Season 4: FIFA 20 restart.

Afro wrote:Do the ratings go up? I thought we had to fix it on a particular date otherwise it reset all the teams?

Either way, that looks fine to me other than I think you meant increase to 85 mid-season 2

I'd look to download the most recent patches between seasons (and the moving around of squads would have to be redone as result but that's fine).

Hero wrote:

Afro wrote:Do the ratings go up? I thought we had to fix it on a particular date otherwise it reset all the teams?

Either way, that looks fine to me other than I think you meant increase to 85 mid-season 2

I'd look to download the most recent patches between seasons (and the moving around of squads would have to be redone as result but that's fine).

Okay. If you don't mind the extra work, that sounds sensible

I have no idea what that means

New Brisbane page done, what do I need to do now?

You could have a go at tactics for this week if you're ready to give it a crack?

Do we want to consider also playing the Brisbane-Newcastle game from week 2. Seems a shame to have a default win.

Only if it's not too much work. Likewise, if the tactics for this week have already been done, not too worried about re-doing them to make it easier.

Doubt Hero will mind re running the week 2 game, and he hasn't done the week 3 one yet, will just mean Nando wasted his time but he has plenty to waste so I wouldn't worry

BamBam wrote:I have no idea what that means

Basically FIFA updates player ratings on a weekly basis based on RL performances and feedback. Sometimes they'rre minor changes, sometimes it results in a overall player rating going up/down.
With manually moving players around between teams to create our teams for the league I cannot do the updates on a weekly basis, as in doing so would result in all players resetting to their RL club.
It kindly did a forced update on me mid March which resulted in me having to work through all the teams for a couple of nights again adding them, the update though did result in a few players values changing.
What I'd suggest is that between seasons I do the updates (and then move players about again), so RL form has more of a consideration in the league.

I'm okay to do that week 2 game again, as long as Nadz is okay with it ?

Yeah I'm cool with it. Just make sure fluxy doesn't play any ineligible players like trebs did

So to avoid that, what players could be ineligible?