6 Nations - Ireland v England (Part 2)

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6 Nations - Ireland v England (Part 2)

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:22 pm

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Part 1 - http://www.606v2.com/t68214-6-nations-ireland-v-england-2nd-feb-2019


Date: Saturday 2nd February 2019
Time: 16:45 GMT
Location: Dublin, Aviva Stadium
Media Coverage: ITV, TV3, BBC (highlights only), Radio 5Live


Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Assistant 1: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant 2: Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)



15 Robbie Henshaw, 14 Keith Earls, 13 Garry Ringrose, 12 Bundee Aki, 11 Jacob Stockdale, 10 Johnny Sexton, 9 Conor Murray; 1 Cian Healy, 2 Rory Best, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 4 Devin Toner, 5 James Ryan, 6 Peter O'Mahony, 7 Josh van der Flier, 8 CJ Stander.

16 Sean Cronin, 17 Dave Kilcoyne, 18 Andrew Porter, 19 Quinn Roux, 20 Sean O'Brien, 21 John Cooney, 22 Joey Carbery, 23 Jordan Larmour


15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 25 caps), 14 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 40 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 17 caps), 12 Manu Tuiagi (Leicester Tigers, 27 caps), 11 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 29 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 65 caps), 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 80 caps); 1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 51 caps), 2 Jamie George (Saracens, 32 caps), 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 17 caps), 4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, 26 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 27 caps), 6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 8 caps), 7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 5 caps), 8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 36 caps).

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 7 caps), 17 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps), 18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 15 caps), 19 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 68 caps), 20 Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 18 caps), 21 Dan Robson (Wasps, uncapped), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 51 caps), 23 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 42 caps).

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Re: 6 Nations - Ireland v England (Part 2)

Post by miaow on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 9:30 am

I accept that, but by and large Warburton genuinely was very 'clean' at the breakdown. Ireland have lots of adept breakdown operators but they're not really that kind of level of being able to latch on and withstand a 3 man clearout to win the penalty. SOB, POM etc. VdF not really dominant over the ball either. Beirne is that player, but maybe Schmidt doesn't want that.


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Re: 6 Nations - Ireland v England (Part 2)

Post by Poorfour on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 9:43 am

miaow wrote:That's only a relatively recent phenomenon though. And it's arguable the ABs halo effect - referees far less likely to penalise the 'dark arts' Ireland have now got a lot better at. Just look at this thread for accusations of bias from Garces (hardly an objective source, but the types of suggested infringments are telling).

Also agree with both PoorFour and RugbyFan. Things did come off surprisingly well for England, but that's why they deserve so much praise - they achieved that. Yet they did also deal with a few problems, including the yellow and then the second-row situation. Ireland failed to capitalise (did they score 3 or 6 points when Curry was off the field, can't remember - I know they scored the try just after he came back on, which sort of counts as the 5m lineout was gained with him off the field) and you have to praise England for that.

Ireland didn't score during the sin bin period, but scored their try immediately after.

England seem to be in a place where referees go in expecting to penalise them, and I think they are more strictly policed than their opposition. They will have to adapt to that.


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Re: 6 Nations - Ireland v England (Part 2)

Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 9:51 am

We got the harsh end of some 50 50s last week but no real shockers. Owens this weekend who likes his quips. I thought Farrell was superb last week in his communication to the ref and general leadership. He needs to do that again and I expect under some pressure from France early doors he needs to ensure no petulance spills over if Owens interpretations are very nigel owens like.

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