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Post by dynamark Tue 20 Apr 2021, 8:41 am

First topic message reminder :

Ben Leicester have been fortunate to find wealthy owners who saved us from a deal of trouble but they could not be accused of throwing stupid money around and disregarding the fans.The PL winning team was assembled from a bunch of frees ,has beens and cheap buys I think Ulloa was the top buy at about £9m.What they then did as some players moved on for big money was start throwing some of that money about to try to maintain position with varying degrees of success.The Chairman gives away free beer and cakes on his birthday and has given a lot to local organisations including a childrens hospital ,We have been very very lucky.
I think the German teams have a different voting structure where fans have a big say.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:35 pm

I think being the 3rd best in the world at a certain event is a little better than being a 'journeyman'.

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:47 pm

But you aren't the third best in the world just because its in the Olympics. You placed third on ONE day.
What is Bradshaws ranking for instance? Is she consistently ranked third? No, she isn't.

If you have the best gross in a competition at your club, it doesn't make you the best player at your club does it?

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:49 pm

If you're only the best player at your club, you're less than a pro journeyman. Which I suppose is fine, as long as you don't celebrate it.

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Post by McLaren Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:53 pm

Super

If you are an asylum seeker and you make do with a third rate country like Italy or Spain, instead of a gold standard nation like the UK are you a journeyman asylum seeker?
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Post by lostinwales Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:54 pm

McLaren wrote:
lostinwales wrote:
super_realist wrote:Two whole days and not a single sportsperson has mentioned their "mental health". I'm now concerned for their "mental health"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-58077269  There you go, although in this case its probably safe to say the guy has recovered.


He should be ashamed. He only got a silver.

And a gold

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:56 pm

McLaren wrote:Super

If you are an asylum seeker and you make do with a third rate country like Italy or Spain, instead of a gold standard nation like the UK are you a journeyman asylum seeker?

Ha ha ha, Why on earth would you call the UK a gold standard nation?

An Olympic Bronze medal means you won an Olympic Bronze medal, it doesn't make you the 3rd best in the world.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 05 Aug 2021, 1:57 pm

lostinwales wrote:
McLaren wrote:
lostinwales wrote:
super_realist wrote:Two whole days and not a single sportsperson has mentioned their "mental health". I'm now concerned for their "mental health"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-58077269  There you go, although in this case its probably safe to say the guy has recovered.


He should be ashamed. He only got a silver.

And a gold

Which I suppose is fine if you're happy with winning a gold in a fairly niche sport.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:02 pm

super_realist wrote:You placed third on ONE day.

Hence why I said 'certain event', which Bradshaw finished 3rd in the world in. Better than a 'journeyman' - 'journeymen' probably don't qualify for the Olympics.

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Post by superflyweight Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:04 pm

super_realist wrote:If you only want to be a journeyman I suppose its fine, but personally I wouldn't be outwardly ecstatic about it.

There's making an argument for argument sake's and then there's lying in order to continue to flog the dead horse that is your argument.

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Post by Oakdene Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:04 pm

This thread is a joke, seriously.

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:09 pm

super_realist wrote:But you aren't the third best in the world just because its in the Olympics. You placed third on ONE day.
What is  Bradshaws ranking for instance? Is she consistently ranked third? No, she isn't.

If you have the best gross in a competition at your club, it doesn't make you the best player at your club does it?

Holly Bradshaw is 9th all time so fair to say she's pretty decent at the pole vault.

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:10 pm

superflyweight wrote:
super_realist wrote:If you only want to be a journeyman I suppose its fine, but personally I wouldn't be outwardly ecstatic about it.

There's making an argument for argument sake's and then there's lying in order to continue to flog the dead horse that is your argument.  

Wobetide someone has a different opinion to you.

Anyway, if you read back you'd know my question was why you'd never be happy to finish third in any other event than the Olympics.


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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:11 pm

Duty281 wrote:
super_realist wrote:You placed third on ONE day.

Hence why I said 'certain event', which Bradshaw finished 3rd in the world in. Better than a 'journeyman' - 'journeymen' probably don't qualify for the Olympics.

Unless you're a 40 year old transgender weightlifter?

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Post by superflyweight Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:14 pm

super_realist wrote:
superflyweight wrote:
super_realist wrote:If you only want to be a journeyman I suppose its fine, but personally I wouldn't be outwardly ecstatic about it.

There's making an argument for argument sake's and then there's lying in order to continue to flog the dead horse that is your argument.  

Wobetide someone has a different opinion to you.

Not really. But to suggest that you wouldn't be delighted with a bronze medal in a competition in which you had only an outside chance of winning is just nonsense. You can go on denyng that you're lying, but you're just deluding yourself for the sake of trying to continue a losing fight in a pointless argument.

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:19 pm

I won a few pool tournaments as a teenager, wasn't for big money but enough for a few nights out and was pretty happy with myself, was under no illusions about being the best in the world. A question for you lesser SR, should I retrospectively not have been happy?

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Post by Duty281 Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:26 pm

super_realist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
super_realist wrote:You placed third on ONE day.

Hence why I said 'certain event', which Bradshaw finished 3rd in the world in. Better than a 'journeyman' - 'journeymen' probably don't qualify for the Olympics.

Unless you're a 40 year old transgender weightlifter?

True, but that's a slightly different topic.

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:31 pm

I'm sure you were happy with yourself, but I'm sure you weren't running around pretending you'd won the World Cup and I'm sure you certainly wouldn't if you came third in said competition.

It wasn't me who claimed coming third made you the third best in the world, it was Beninho.

The difference is YOU WON. Silver and Bronze isn't winning. Yes, you can be proud of coming third if it exceeded expectations, but I don't think it merits a lap of honour with a Union flag draped around your shoulders.

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 05 Aug 2021, 2:36 pm

I don't know draping yourself with the Union flag might be a show of recognition to those watching that their support is appreciated, i'd most definitely be doing the same. Then again I don't just moan about things for the sake of it and do on occasion know when i'm being a tool.

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 3:05 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:I don't know draping yourself with the Union flag might be a show of recognition to those watching that their support is appreciated, i'd most definitely be doing the same. Then again I don't just moan about things for the sake of it and do on occasion know when i'm being a tool.

Please yourself then.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 05 Aug 2021, 3:11 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:I won a few pool tournaments as a teenager, wasn't for big money but enough for a few nights out and was pretty happy with myself, was under no illusions about being the best in the world. A question for you lesser SR, should I retrospectively not have been happy?

Did you ever play at The Crown and Sceptre, Holland Rd near Olympia, Soul? It was quite a while back... around 1990?
Just thinking (if you were aka the Hammersmith Harrier) that I used to go to that pub often at lunchtime to play pool and darts with my English, American and Irish work colleagues. One day this young bloke challenged us to a game. Had a carrier case and wore a vest. Quite a professional appearance. Was that you? Think we politely passed and said that we had to get back to the office or something.

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 05 Aug 2021, 4:05 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:I won a few pool tournaments as a teenager, wasn't for big money but enough for a few nights out and was pretty happy with myself, was under no illusions about being the best in the world. A question for you lesser SR, should I retrospectively not have been happy?

Did you ever play at The Crown and Sceptre, Holland Rd near Olympia, Soul? It was quite a while back... around 1990?
Just thinking (if you were aka the Hammersmith Harrier) that I used to go to that pub often at lunchtime to play pool and darts with my English, American and Irish work colleagues. One day this young bloke challenged us to a game. Had a carrier case and wore a vest. Quite a professional appearance. Was that you? Think we politely passed and said that we had to get back to the office or something.

I was barely out of nappies by 1990 so definitely not me PJ.

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Post by beninho Thu 05 Aug 2021, 5:19 pm

I'm assuming Super Realist got bored so decided to stir up the nonsense don't be happy with a bronze medal bulls###.

Hasn't that been done to death, and isn't it only a pure simpleton who doesn't just accept its all based on expectations.

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Post by super_realist Thu 05 Aug 2021, 5:46 pm

beninho wrote:I'm assuming Super Realist got bored so decided to stir up the nonsense don't be happy with a bronze medal bulls###.

Hasn't that been done to death, and isn't it only a pure simpleton who doesn't just accept its all based on expectations.

I didn't bring it up Mac did and if its all about expectations why do they only wet their pants with third at the Olympics? Why aren't they doing the same at Diamond League meetings, European Championships etc?

Why didn't England wrap themselves in the flag and get a hard on about being runner up? They weren't expected to win.

Oh I forgot, doesn't apply to "knockouts" does it? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Who came third at The Open this year? Delighted were they? No.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 05 Aug 2021, 6:36 pm

super_realist wrote:
superflyweight wrote:
super_realist wrote:If you only want to be a journeyman I suppose its fine, but personally I wouldn't be outwardly ecstatic about it.

There's making an argument for argument sake's and then there's lying in order to continue to flog the dead horse that is your argument.  

Wobetide someone has a different opinion to you.

Anyway, if you read back you'd know my question was why you'd never be happy to finish third in any other event than the Olympics.

The people who celebrated winning the bronze probably have a different opinion to you. Woebetide them.

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Post by I'm never wrong Thu 05 Aug 2021, 7:38 pm

Messi to leave Barcelona. PSG? Man City? Shrewsbury Town? Laugh

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Post by westisbest Thu 05 Aug 2021, 8:52 pm

We’ll take him now that Jack has gone Wink

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 05 Aug 2021, 9:05 pm

super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:I'm assuming Super Realist got bored so decided to stir up the nonsense don't be happy with a bronze medal bulls###.

Hasn't that been done to death, and isn't it only a pure simpleton who doesn't just accept its all based on expectations.

I didn't bring it up Mac did and if its all about expectations why do they only wet their pants with third at the Olympics? Why aren't they doing the same at Diamond League meetings, European Championships etc?

Why didn't England wrap themselves in the flag and get a hard on about being runner up? They weren't expected to win.

Oh I forgot, doesn't apply to "knockouts" does it? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Who came third at The Open this year? Delighted were they? No.

I would have thought that the use of emojis was below you?

It's been explained to you numerous times why the olympics are different but as per usual you're too narrow minded to even consider that you're talking nonsense. Who should be derided; the hard working athlete pleased with their bronze medal or the online bigshot who has achieved nothing?

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Post by beninho Thu 05 Aug 2021, 9:51 pm

Super Realist- do you think the diamond league is equal status to athletes and fans as the Olympics?

Do you think the England players didn't expect to win the Euro final?

Does 3rd place at the open win a medal?

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Post by super_realist Fri 06 Aug 2021, 7:05 am

beninho wrote:Super Realist- do you think the diamond league is equal status to athletes and fans as the Olympics?

Do you think the England players didn't expect to win the Euro final?

Does 3rd place at the open win a medal?

Why does status matter, 2nd or 3rd isn't winning.

Of course England players didn't expect to win the final. They werent expected to win by anyone. So why weren't they delighted to be second? You said it was about expectation and if you told them they would come second, shouldn't they be delighted?

Oh right, I forgot, only applies to the Olympics doesn't it?

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Post by Soul Requiem Fri 06 Aug 2021, 7:19 am

Well yes.

There's something you can help me with, what's the probability of winning an Olympic medal?

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Post by beninho Fri 06 Aug 2021, 8:33 am

Of course the status of the event means sonething, not even you are going to argue it doesn't, are you? The Olympics is the pinnacle of the majority of sports.

Regarding the England players and the manager, I think most have said disappointed to have not won, but proud with what they achieved.


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Post by beninho Fri 06 Aug 2021, 8:37 am

In golf, it seems Mattias Schmidt was pretty happy with winning the silver medal at the open.

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Post by beninho Fri 06 Aug 2021, 8:56 am

And I seriously doubt that any England player went in to the final expecting to lose that game.

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Post by JAS Fri 06 Aug 2021, 12:45 pm

super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:I'm assuming Super Realist got bored so decided to stir up the nonsense don't be happy with a bronze medal bulls###.

Hasn't that been done to death, and isn't it only a pure simpleton who doesn't just accept its all based on expectations.

I didn't bring it up Mac did and if its all about expectations why do they only wet their pants with third at the Olympics? Why aren't they doing the same at Diamond League meetings, European Championships etc?

Why didn't England wrap themselves in the flag and get a hard on about being runner up? They weren't expected to win.

Oh I forgot, doesn't apply to "knockouts" does it? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Who came third at The Open this year? Delighted were they? No.

Did anyone see Roger Black on TV yesterday morning? In most Olympics he would have stood a decent chance of gold but he was saying that he was happy with silver, which wouldn’t necessarily always be the case but at those particular olympics he was up against a certain Michael Johnson at the top of his game so realistically, barring a DQ for a false start or running out of lane he knew the best he could do was silver. So there was an element of realism tacked into being the best you can be on a given day.

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Post by dynamark Fri 06 Aug 2021, 2:52 pm

I quite liked the boxer who was well naffed off at his silver medal .He will probably put that in a cupboard and forget all about it.the flag thing I think they get told to do it lottery funding and all that the guys and girls who make it without the funding are top for me.
Talking pool my lad who has had his issues lets say went to the Ricoh at Coventry couple of years ago to watch British Masters snooker or something -in the lobby they had a pool tournament going for who could clear the table best time and he won it over the day in 52 seconds .The host said where did you learn to play pool like that -his answer was prison !

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Post by super_realist Sun 08 Aug 2021, 8:27 am

beninho wrote:And I seriously doubt that any England player went in to the final expecting to lose that game.

You don't go in expecting to win anything. That sets you up for a fall. You go in and aim to apply your game plan. You might be confident, as the most confident player usually wins, but you absolutely should not expect to win.

This is the sort of behaviour that results in being beaten by Iceland and is pretty much the same as being arrogant.

If you apply your plan and you win, you're vindicated, if you lose, your game plan was either wrong or the other team were better.

England were most certainly the underdogs in that final. If they went in expecting to win, that's a problem of arrogance and not giving your opponent the respect they deserve.

England certainly weren't appreciably better than Italy. So an expectation they were going to win is a terrible approach to a match against what was regarded a better team

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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 08 Aug 2021, 9:02 am

Regarded as a better team by whom? England were the favourites to win that final.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 9:39 am

If I was a football manager and before the biggest game for the country in 55 years, my players didn't believe they were going to win. I would be very concerned.

As a fan, if any player of a team I support don't cross the line with the mind-set of thinking they can win the game, again I would be very disappointed. I guess that would be the same for almost every football fan.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 9:40 am

Anyway, Laura Muir did well,PB I think, beat an all time great into third and lost to an all time great. Was she allowed to be happy with a silver medal?

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Post by super_realist Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:06 am

beninho wrote:If I was a football manager and before the biggest game for the country in 55 years, my players didn't believe they were going to win. I would be very concerned.  

As a fan, if any player of a team I support don't cross the line with the mind-set of thinking they can win the game, again I would be very disappointed.  I guess that would be the same for almost every football fan.

Expectation is the mother of failure.

You shouldn't think you are GOING to win you should be thinking you CAN win.
One of those promotes complacency and one promotes action.

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Post by super_realist Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:08 am

beninho wrote:Anyway, Laura Muir did well,PB I think, beat an all time great into third and lost to an all time great. Was she allowed to be happy with a silver medal?

I think Muir is a better athlete than Dina Asher Smith and operates at a consistently higher level, the trouble is she doesn't get as much credit as she should because she looks like a thumb/spoon.
Smith fits the media profile a bit better despite an awful smile.

Another thing that is a poor use of a phrase in the Olympics is "making history". Isn't everything making history?

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:20 am

Smith is also a reigning world champion I believe.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:26 am

super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:If I was a football manager and before the biggest game for the country in 55 years, my players didn't believe they were going to win. I would be very concerned.  

As a fan, if any player of a team I support don't cross the line with the mind-set of thinking they can win the game, again I would be very disappointed.  I guess that would be the same for almost every football fan.

Expectation is the mother of failure.

You shouldn't think you are GOING to win you should be thinking you CAN win.
One of those promotes complacency and one promotes action.

So, every England player thought they could win the game. Its the same as believing they were going to win. I wouldn't want a player to not believe they were playing to win a game. If you play to win, you believe you will win.

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Post by super_realist Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:26 am

beninho wrote:Smith is also a reigning world champion I believe.

Precisely why I stated "consistently"

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Post by super_realist Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:27 am

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super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:If I was a football manager and before the biggest game for the country in 55 years, my players didn't believe they were going to win. I would be very concerned.  

As a fan, if any player of a team I support don't cross the line with the mind-set of thinking they can win the game, again I would be very disappointed.  I guess that would be the same for almost every football fan.

Expectation is the mother of failure.

You shouldn't think you are GOING to win you should be thinking you CAN win.
One of those promotes complacency and one promotes action.

So, every England player thought they could win the game. Its the same as believing they were going to win. I wouldn't want a player to not believe they were playing to win a game. If you play to win, you believe you will win.

Not even close. Believing you will win and believing you can win is two different things entirely.
I have no doubt that England thought they could win, but if they thiught they should win then that helps explain why they didn't.

Playing to win is not playing in the belief you will win.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:38 am

beninho wrote:Smith is also a reigning world champion I believe.

Gold and two silvers at the last worlds, quite consistent one would say.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:43 am

I dont think England thought they should win. I didn't get any sense of complacency from the manager or players. And I wouldn't want my team to play thinking they should win. They should play with the belief they will win. I think England's players believed they would win, and that's what i would want from my team. Again, I would guess every fan would want that.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:45 am

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beninho wrote:Anyway, Laura Muir did well,PB I think, beat an all time great into third and lost to an all time great. Was she allowed to be happy with a silver medal?

I think Muir is a better athlete than Dina Asher Smith and operates at a consistently higher level, the trouble is she doesn't get as much credit as she should because she looks like a thumb/spoon.
Smith fits the media profile a bit better despite an awful smile.

Another thing that is a poor use of a phrase in the Olympics is "making history". Isn't everything making history?

Muir is a brilliant athlete and performed wonderfully. But, just checking you think she can be happy with silver?

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 10:46 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
beninho wrote:Smith is also a reigning world champion I believe.

Gold and two silvers at the last worlds, quite consistent one would say.

Stop talking about her achievements its to do with the media, or something.

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Post by beninho Sun 08 Aug 2021, 11:06 am

https://twitter.com/bennysaint/status/1424245565458567169?s=19

Is this Shi#housing or a clumsy athlete?

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