Exeter Chiefs Headdress

profitius wrote:

The Oracle wrote:Surely no one group can claim to own the ‘warrior’ term as part of their history or culture? Everyone had warriors in their history. Therefore, ‘Warriors’ should be fine for any team around the world, right? Unless it’s prefixed with something relating to native Americans such as Tomahawk Warriors, or similar. And therein lies the issue I think, and it’s a good discussion point.

Warriors on its own is fine. We can all claim to have warriors in our history and culture. But Tomahawk Warriors would be offensive to native Americans so we can’t ‘borrow’ that, according to some. Celtic Warriors? Surely only Celtic nations can adopt that? But would anyone actually raise an objection to it in reality? And if they don’t does that make it fine for, say, an American team to be called Celtic Warriors or Celtic Marauders, or similar? I ‘feel’ Celtic being Welsh and have a genuine interest in it and read up a lot about Celtic history and legends. But I would love another nation to adopt a Celtic warriors name! In fact, they’d probably then become my team in something like NFL because I’d then have something to link me to them. Rather than supporting Chicago Bears as I do just because of The Fridge and Walter Payton back in the day! So I’m fine with it. Does that mean it’s ok? Does it just take one person (another 606 poster for example) to have an issue with it and then no one can use it? Who decides? How many offended do you need? How can we be consistent and apply things equally?

No that you reminded me, there is a south African team named Bloemfontein Celtic.


As mad as all this seems, just follow the money. There are hundreds or thousands of NGOs set up to milk these kind of things. Even outrage is turned to profit these days.

The Oracle wrote:I guess my question to you LD would be this: if an NFL team decided to rebrand as Celtic Warriors would you complain and protest about it to the point of stopping them from using that branding? Would your mates ‘up the club’ do the same also?

LordDowlais wrote:

The Oracle wrote:I guess my question to you LD would be this: if an NFL team decided to rebrand as Celtic Warriors would you complain and protest about it to the point of stopping them from using that branding? Would your mates ‘up the club’ do the same also?

What is this supposed to mean ?

My mates down the club ?

I doubt they would care to be honest. Just the same as they do not give two hoots about Exeter using Chiefs and fans wearing feathered headdresses. You see, normal people do not take it upon themselves to be offended on behalf of others.

Why you are ranting at me though is a bit perplexing.

GLASGOW WARRIORS managing director Al Kellock has asked Exeter Chiefs supporters “not to attend the game on Saturday with faux Native American headdresses or chant the ‘Tomahawk Chop’ during the match”.

“We are making this request out of respect for the Native American community around the world, whose views on the use of their imagery and cultural heritage we support, and the Glasgow Warriors supporters who have called for us to act on this matter,” he explained, in an open letter issued at lunchtime today [Monday].

“The club has informed Exeter Chiefs and European Professional Club Rugby of our request and has the full support of Scottish Rugby on taking this position.”

Poorfour wrote:Chiefs branding tweet

It’s basically Jack Nowell in a hat, isn’t it?

thebandwagonsociety wrote:Now to be celtic chiefs.....


https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/60155782


The social justice mob won't be satisfied though, they will move to their next cause....... might I suggest homelessness, or social housing, or provision of drug rehabilitation services? We'll soon see what the mob actually chooses to focus on.

thebandwagonsociety wrote:Now to be celtic chiefs.....


https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/60155782


The social justice mob won't be satisfied though, they will move to their next cause....... might I suggest homelessness, or social housing, or provision of drug rehabilitation services? We'll soon see what the mob actually chooses to focus on.

Poorfour wrote:Chiefs branding tweet

It’s basically Jack Nowell in a hat, isn’t it?

Tramptastic wrote:So 4 things to consider:

1) why didnt they keep the "chiefs" part and rebrand to something celtic? theres certainly the connection down the cornish way so why not? Have a Clan Chief as the mascot! that would have been an easy fix!

GeordieFalcon wrote:What did the Dumnoni tribe look like. It look very Mongolian or Turkish?

Poorfour wrote:Since we're on the topic, should we be talking about cultural appropriation from medieval Islamists? Just because they're not around to protest it doesn't mean it's right.

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Rumor has it that the Pope is offended by Northampton's "Saints" tag. We may have to re-brand, "Sinners" would be good, it cannot be argued against with our disciplinary record.