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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 11:13 am

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Good morning tennis fans.

What a day we have in store. Djokovic v Tsonga and Nadal v Murray.

I have the fan on, the phone off, the doors locked and e-mails off.

It is going to be a historic day hopefully. Could we see the first Wimbledon final not to have had Nadal or Federer in it since 2002?

Fingers crossed.

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Post by barrystar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:09 pm

Mark2011 wrote:How did Murray miss that forehand shot.

Do you mean the one at 1-2, 15-30?

The one that started this rot?
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Post by Tenez Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:11 pm

barrystar wrote:What a momentum shift, 5 minutes ago Nadal should have been serving at 15-40, now, after Murray blazed an easy forehand long that game

Very unlike Murray to go for too much when not needed. A surprising miss for sure.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:13 pm

Murray needs to re-group here and go back on the attack. Go after the BH.

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Post by barrystar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:15 pm

Hey ho - if you'd told me that it would be 1-1 after 90mins I suppose I'd have taken that. Murray's got to treat this new set as a different story and start again.
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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:16 pm

This will be a real test now of murray's focus and resolve. These are the kind of hurdles he has to leap over to get that big trophy at a grandslam.

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Post by laverfan Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:19 pm

socal1976 wrote:This will be a real test now of murray's focus and resolve. These are the kind of hurdles he has to leap over to get that big trophy at a grandslam.

This clearly shows what it takes to win a slam. Now think of players who have 16 and 10 slams respectively. Wink

Edit: Or 2 slams, 1 slam....

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:21 pm

In the weak pre-Novak era Laverfan it isn't all that much. If Novak was playing in the weak era of 2004-2010 he would have 20 slams. Oh wait he was playing in that era, just kidding.

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Post by djlovesyou Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:22 pm

Yuk. Not looking good.

Can't stand that awful guy.

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Post by laverfan Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:22 pm

socal1976 wrote:In the weak pre-Novak era Laverfan it isn't all that much. If Novak was playing in the weak era of 2004-2010 he would have 20 slams. Oh wait he was playing in that era, just kidding.

Let us celebrate Nole's achievements, rather than belittling others'. Hug

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Post by barrystar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:23 pm

He's absolutely gone to pieces now - there's only one result unless he can find again the intensity of the 1st set, and I'm not putting any money on that at all.
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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:23 pm

This is becoming so frustrating to watch. Just don't understand what has happened to Andy out there.

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:23 pm

I know laverfan, I was just joking around; not trying to belittle Fed or Rafa. I was being very sarcastic.

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Post by wow Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:25 pm

pathetic!
andy murray will beat andy murray

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:26 pm

The crowd is flat. You need to give them something Andy. Come on. You can do it.

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:27 pm

Take it easy you guys, he still can rebound, he is playing nadal and it was always going to be tough if he was to win it.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:27 pm

Well done Andy. Now lets get that break back.

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Post by Tom_____ Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:30 pm

Tough turnaround this - culmination of Murray dropping his level and Nadal raising his. Crowd are gee'd up more than last year and are really significantly behind Murray today.

Have to admit i don't mind who wins, but will supporting whoever does in the Final.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:30 pm

What time is Finals on Sunday, 3PM?

do you think I'll stand a chance of getting to Hemnam Hilll if I get there for about 1.30?

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:31 pm

No tom, et tu, you have to be with my man Novak come the final.

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Post by Tom_____ Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:35 pm

socal1976 wrote:No tom, et tu, you have to be with my man Novak come the final.

sorry social. However if he wins it will be well deserved and good luck to him etc. He's certainly done enough this year to be considered the current best player.

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:37 pm

Fair enough tom, can't wait for the final whoever it is with the three players left alive, it will be a well deserved champion.

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Post by Tom_____ Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:What time is Finals on Sunday, 3PM?

do you think I'll stand a chance of getting to Hemnam Hilll if I get there for about 1.30?

AM?

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Post by Masked Magician Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:44 pm

Nadal on the charge. Way too much heart for Murray to deal with.

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Post by pauline1981 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:49 pm

Thanks andy i bet 5 quid on you

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:49 pm

Come on Andy let's get that sharp focus from the first set going again.

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Post by Chazfazzer Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:56 pm

This really has been a phenomenal performance by Nadal. Probably the best I've ever seen him play on grass actually!

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:57 pm

Nadal has shown what a phenom he is. How he has turned this match around has been extrodinary from where he was in the 2nd set at 2-1 on serve.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:00 pm

Nadal has been like a tidal wave crashing against a dam that is Murray and the wave has sprung leaks in the dam and it is a damn near flooding!

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Post by Tenez Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:03 pm

Clearly Murray is not fully mobile.

And his real problem is that he has no FH along the line. He doesn;t need to play it often but enough to give a sense of fear to Nadal. And his BH cross court was not very deadly....maybe all that because of his poor mouvement today.

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Post by Masked Magician Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:03 pm

Quite amazed how well Nadal has played.

After the 1st set I thought he might feel the pressure, but he's gone thru the gears.

Murray has played well, Nadal just has too much game

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Post by Bright_hsd Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:07 pm

Nadal seems to be in a zone at the moment, the best I've seen him play in months...

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Post by Chazfazzer Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:08 pm

I like the fact that the commentators were amazed Nadal can cook; I'd like to think most 24 year old guys can put a few meals together!

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Post by Tenez Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:10 pm

And Murray finally opening more on the FH along the line making his CC FH a bit more efficient.

But it so obvious he cannot run. Once again he is injured!

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Post by Chazfazzer Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:14 pm

Hardly. Nadal's just been way too good today.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:19 pm

Tom_____ wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:What time is Finals on Sunday, 3PM?

do you think I'll stand a chance of getting to Hemnam Hilll if I get there for about 1.30?

AM?
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:20 pm

Murray might aswell have lost earlier in the tournament, I told you guys, Lopez would give Nadal a better match.
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Post by yummymummy Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:25 pm

Bull .......... !

O-Kay I hold my hands up Moderators !!!!!1

Sue me for expressing my opinion of the previous post !

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Post by Tenez Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:27 pm

Chazfazzer wrote:Hardly. Nadal's just been way too good today.

It's so obvious though. He cannot start quickly. Meaning he cannot return as he used to and cannot chase the balls as he did in the first set...and that makes Nadal look much better than he was in that 1st set.

The commentators are purposedly ignoring it.

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:32 pm

Can't wait for the final, I think you can't ask for anything more than #1 and #2 playing it out for the biggest prize in the sport. Really, this is the way things should go. Murray at this point just not good enough to beat Rafa. Tenez is right about one thing, Murray really doesn't have a consistently dominating down the line forehand. This is a shot murray lacks that Novak has, and uses it to great effect against Nadal.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:41 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Murray might aswell have lost earlier in the tournament, I told you guys, Lopez would give Nadal a better match.

Really? Considering the guy has only beaten him twice. You do talk carp!

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:43 pm

Y I Man wrote:Popped a treble on over lunch time.
Nole 3-1 Rafa 3-1 and Shara 2-1= 56/1
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Post by Tom_____ Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:44 pm

Tenez wrote:
Chazfazzer wrote:Hardly. Nadal's just been way too good today.

It's so obvious though. He cannot start quickly. Meaning he cannot return as he used to and cannot chase the balls as he did in the first set...and that makes Nadal look much better than he was in that 1st set.

The commentators are purposedly ignoring it.

Your just embarrassing yourself really - Nadal hit around a dozen UEs all match - thats going to make it hard for anyone to beat him. Murrays Serve dropping has had more to do with him losing the momentum than anything.

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Post by yummymummy Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:45 pm

Y I Man wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Popped a treble on over lunch time.
Nole 3-1 Rafa 3-1 and Shara 2-1= 56/1
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Post by legendkillar Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:46 pm

Y I Man wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Popped a treble on over lunch time.
Nole 3-1 Rafa 3-1 and Shara 2-1= 56/1
king

Is it your round? Wink

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Post by socal1976 Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:46 pm

Well, Lopez would probably capitulate to Rafa in straight sets like he does pretty much every time they play. Murray had a great tournament, congratulations to him. And Rafa, what can you say about him, he is such a great champion. He is so difficult to keep down. Nobody is mentally tougher or a better competitor. Congratulations to him and his fans.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:47 pm

I still need Shara though. Put £5 on the treble.

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Post by Tom_____ Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:51 pm

Y I Man wrote:I still need Shara though. Put £5 on the treble.

Thats puts my guaranteed £19 i'm going to win over the weekend in the shade!

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Post by laverfan Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:51 pm

Well played Rafa. clap

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Post by Masked Magician Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:52 pm

great match and a great performance by Nadal.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 01 Jul 2011, 7:54 pm

Rafa Nadal remember is a multiple slam winner and world No.1 (until Monday) and Murray was on top for a set and a half then lost his way when he missed a sitter to get two break points. His levels dipped rapidly and couldn't really recover so Andy lost it which says a lot about his game that we can say that against one of the all-time greats Rafael Nadal. Nadal himself hardly put a foot wrong with unforced errors at a bare minimum and that is the measure of the man. Full credit to Rafa and for Andy the wait goes on.
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