Vitali Klitschko v Tomasz Adamek

by Guest Mon 29 Aug 2011, 9:39 am

Morning all on this fine bank holiday Monday.

September 10 is fast approaching for this fight.
How do you see this going?

Adamek has the speed advantage, but will he be able to use it?

by paperbag_puncher Mon 29 Aug 2011, 9:59 am

Vitali by KO. Admire Adamek but too small and will be worn down and knocked out sometime after the 7th for me. Can't even say he has a puncher's chance..

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 11:19 am

Adamek is to small to trouble Vitali tied in with the fact he isn't that good anyway. Easy win for Vitali.

by **Kenny** Mon 29 Aug 2011, 1:00 pm

Vitali will just be to big for Adamek , dont see it going the distance

by **88Chris05** Mon 29 Aug 2011, 1:11 pm

I think Adamek will perform fairly admirably without ever really looking like winning, eventually being stopped anywhere after the eighth round. Just too small to trouble Vitali or put him on the back foot, and as I expect Adamek to hold his ground, I reckon he's going to take an awful lot of punishment. Don't see Vitali having too much trouble here.

by **Seanusarrilius** Mon 29 Aug 2011, 1:22 pm

i actually think Vitali is almost ripe for the taking, i honestly believe had solis trained and not made such an idiot of himself he might have stood a chance. but adamek is not good enough, vitali tko 10

by licence_007 Mon 29 Aug 2011, 6:15 pm

Vitali, although surely we'll be seeing a massive decline in him at some stage? Might be closer than people think....probably not though!

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:29 pm

Wlad had a break and I don't think he's shown signs of ageing. Remember people said that sort of stuff about Bhop!

by eddyfightfan Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:35 pm

i think adamek is about on a level with haye, both decent cruiserweights just not big enough to worry the huge klitschko brothers, and unfortunatly for adamek, i think he has drawn the tougher brother. mid to late KO for vitali.

by We Are Number 1!!! Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:47 pm

Vitali has never been beaten legitimately, only two defeats are by injury. He'll pound Adamek into next week. KO in 6.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:51 pm

Lewis beat him legitimately. Stopped him on cuts that he opened with punches.

by We Are Number 1!!! Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:54 pm

prettyboykev wrote:Lewis beat him legitimately. Stopped him on cuts that he opened with punches.

Headbutt my friend. Vitali was pounding him into submission.

Why do you think Lewis was so scared to give Vitali a rematch?

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 7:58 pm

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:Lewis beat him legitimately. Stopped him on cuts that he opened with punches.
Headbutt my friend. Vitali was pounding him into submission.

Why do you think Lewis was so scared to give Vitali a rematch?

Lewis was past it and took the fight on short notice. Nothing to prove he beat him fairly. Landed his uppercut several times. When did Vitali pound him into submission?

Go watch it again.

by eddyfightfan Mon 29 Aug 2011, 8:03 pm

vitali was fairly unknown at the time, a rematch proved nothing

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 8:12 pm

A rematch would have proved nothing anyway Lewis was past his best.

by **88Chris05** Mon 29 Aug 2011, 8:13 pm

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:Lewis beat him legitimately. Stopped him on cuts that he opened with punches.
Headbutt my friend. Vitali was pounding him into submission.

Why do you think Lewis was so scared to give Vitali a rematch?

Yet again, here we are. The cut (and worsening of it) was all down to punches, hence why the scorecards didn't come in to play once the fight was stopped. Once more, I think we have someone amongst us who hasn't actually seen the fight - Vitali spent the last two rounds hanging on for dear life. Take a look at the way he totters back to his corner after the sixth - the ringside doctor saved his bacon and, perhaps, his career that night. Vitali lost to an aged and clearly out of shape Lewis, simple as that.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 29 Aug 2011, 8:19 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
We Are Number 1!!! wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:Lewis beat him legitimately. Stopped him on cuts that he opened with punches.
Headbutt my friend. Vitali was pounding him into submission.

Why do you think Lewis was so scared to give Vitali a rematch?

Yet again, here we are. The cut (and worsening of it) was all down to punches, hence why the scorecards didn't come in to play once the fight was stopped. Once more, I think we have someone amongst us who hasn't actually seen the fight - Vitali spent the last two rounds hanging on for dear life. Take a look at the way he totters back to his corner after the sixth - the ringside doctor saved his bacon and, perhaps, his career that night. Vitali lost to an aged and clearly out of shape Lewis, simple as that.

Spot on mate think someone spends to much time on boxrec.

by Perfessor Albertus Lion V Tue 30 Aug 2011, 2:20 am

Y I Man wrote:Morning all on this fine bank holiday Monday.

September 10 is fast approaching for this fight.
How do you see this going?

Adamek has the speed advantage, but will he be able to use it?

~ Sir, Mr. Adamek is clearly the only real threat to any heavyweight out there, a clever, experienced 100% fightin' man through and through.

You won't see him crawling around the canvas on all fours every round like we endured with Mr. Haye who not only can't fight but can't even do a proper Judah chicken dance without first collapsing.

The best heavyweight fight of the new decade me thinks......

by Super D Boon Tue 30 Aug 2011, 3:12 am

Vitali by UD for me.

Don't think it will be the clear cut pounding people are making out. Adamek is pretty ordinary but elusive and durable enough to go all the way. I'm slightly nervous for VK being that this is in Poland though. If Adamek wins it would be by robbery.

Vitali on PTS.

by Waingro Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:02 am

Klitscko will absolutely destroy Adamek this dude lost to Dawson lol Klitscko is ten times harder to beat mark my words this will not be close

by Scottrf Tue 30 Aug 2011, 9:09 am

Perfessor Albertus Lion V wrote:The best heavyweight fight of the new decade me thinks......

~Why, Sir, then you should put down the sherry...

by Mr Bounce Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:06 am

I have a feeling this one's going to be painful for Adamek. He'll be rescued bleeding and utterly demoralised in about 6 to 7 rounds.

I just can't see him getting past Vitali.

by tommyhearnsprodigalson Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:10 am

I think it'll go the same way as Wlad vs Haye, Haye will slip the majority of the punches without ever looking like stealing a round, the only difference being i've got a feeling Vitali will catch up with around the 9th round and stop him,

I think he's got a lot of pent up aggression following the Solis fight

by Valero's Conscience Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:18 am

Can only see one winner and that's not Adamek. I like Adamek a lot but will showcase perfectly how size does matter, especially in the HW division.

by Michaels, Sean Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:40 am

Adamek is more than durable. If Haye had half of his 'fight' he'd be WBA 'Super' Champion by now.

I think Adamek will run rings around Vitali for most of the fight but lose on a SD.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 30 Aug 2011, 11:41 am

I asked George Foreman on twitter how he would beat a Klitchko and he felt you had to get at them. Be willing to take a bit to give it out. Strange that we think size is so important because George felt Frazier and Marciano would give the Klitchkos nightmares neither was 6ft tall and Marciano especially was very light never weighed 200lbs in his career.

by joeyjojo618 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:00 pm

I think George is correct that you have to go after Wlad, and a littler man could potentially do it, but not sure about Vitali. Hes got an iron chin and a massive KO percentage. I dont see that he could be bullied in the ring. I would say the way to beat V would be to stay on the outside and UD him on the backfoot.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:09 pm

If you were to box him on the back foot you would need to have very good speed and movement like Ali. Not sure their has been that many who could pull that off Vitali has an awesome reach.

by Colonial Lion Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:09 pm

The Klitschkos are far from unbeatable. Its not a question of how do you beat them, its a question of who out there has the ability or talent? The division lacks the talent, rather than style or tactics to beat them.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:12 pm

No one around just now has the talent to beat them. Steve Cunningham has made noises about moving up to heavyweight but he's 35 now not sure he would fair any better than other Cruisers like Haye or Adamek.

by bhb001 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:14 pm

I think the question is wrong. It should be Vitali early or late

by joeyjojo618 Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:15 pm

prettyboykev wrote:If you were to box him on the back foot you would need to have very good speed and movement like Ali. Not sure their has been that many who could pull that off Vitali has an awesome reach.

Not saying it would be easy kev, but Vitali is slowing down a bit these days so its not an impossible task. I dont think there is anyone around at the moment who is good enough to do it though.

by tommyhearnsprodigalson Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:16 pm

Does anyone think Solis would fair any better against Wlad than than he did against Vitali if he can get back into contention and over his knee problem?

by Scottrf Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:20 pm

tommyhearnsprodigalson wrote:Does anyone think Solis would fair any better against Wlad than than he did against Vitali if he can get back into contention and over his knee problem?

I think he'd fair better against Vitali than he did against Vitali if he could get over his knee problem.

by tommyhearnsprodigalson Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:23 pm

And me i did seem pretty quick and unafraid to try and get at vitali, i've always thought an agressive fighter ala Tyson would fair better against a counter puncher/pot shot fighter like Haye

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:30 pm

alma wrote:
tommyhearnsprodigalson wrote:And me i did seem pretty quick and unafraid to try and get at vitali, i've always thought an agressive fighter ala Tyson would fair better against a counter puncher/pot shot fighter like Haye

Agreed, a Tyson or a Frazier would have a much better chance in my opinion. We all though Haye would employ similar tactics but due to the career ending little toe injury he was unable.......

That's the point Foreman made o twitter as I said above he felt smaller guys like Frazier and Marciano would've been a nightmare for the K Bros. Not sure Tyson had the chin for a fight with Vitali but he would have terrified Wlad with his power. You would need to take a few to dish it out.

by tommyhearnsprodigalson Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:32 pm

Unfortunately i brought into the hype that Haye was gonna rush in all guns blazing and really put it on Wlad, i mean if that was me knowing i had a toe injury i'd like to think i'd swing for the hilt with the prospect of being knocked out rather than try to pot shot and land a money shot with no chance in hell of getting a decision

I'm trying to think of fighters at the moment with the skill (sorry Arreola) who give Wlad a real good fight....

by Boxtthis Wed 31 Aug 2011, 1:02 pm

Adamek is a very decent boxer. At HW he's alot more mobile and strategic than he ever was at LHW or CW. He may have a chance if he keeps mobile. This would maybe get him the decision. I agree that Vitali is at his most vulnerable in years. It's only a matter of time before age affects his speed and reflexes. There should come a point in the near future where a fast mobile boxer should be able to UD him. Unfortunately I don't think Adamek is the man to do this. Not quite fast and skillful enough, and not big or powerful enough to keep Vitali off of him. I could see someone with Haye's physical attributes doing it - only the problem is that Haye can't actually box with any degree of technique. Vitali would be countering those winging punches all night. I actually think Adamek was lucky to face a lacklustre Chris Arreola - who he had trouble keeping off at times. Arreloa says Adamek can't punch like a HW. Like others I think that the complete disparity in size and strength will be the major deciding factor in this one. Adamek to put up a valiant effort (as he always does) but to get put away late or on an increasingly wide UD towards the later rounds.

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