West Indies tour of Bangladesh

Led from the front by their new captain Mushfiqur Rahim, Bangladesh today defeated the West Indies in the one and only T-20 to kick start a new home season.
Mushfiqur made 41 of 26 to undo a fine all-round performance from Marlon Samuels to deny the WI.
I like it when Bangladesh do well, I particularly loved it today, as it also is a slap on the WICB and Co face for stupidly keeping their best player out of international cricket.

great innings but neither team played that well

Sammy doesn't deserve to play international cricket for the West Indies, Chris Gayle and the elder Bravo are supreme tallents, and wasting them, only the good for nothing WICB can do it.

Good start for Mushfiqur's captaincy. With the ill Mahmudullah coming back, Bangladesh should be able to put up a strong fight in the ODIs as well.
Every cricketer lover has the West Indies as their favorit side somewhere, but the WICB is a total disaster, and I won't be sad if the WI end up losing all the matches.
They do have some tallented players such as Bravo, Russell, and Roach. If they are mentored the right way, WI cricket can start the climb up.

good start for bangladesh, under new captain Rahim. One of bangladesh's main issues, is they dont have any decent seamers, of a good pace.

Firstly Sammy is good enough, especially in t20. Secondly, Gayle has disrespected the West Indies board and along with older Bravo and Pollard didn't compete in the Caribbean t20 making them ineligible for selection.

Sammy isn't playing today's ODI, and the WI are doing well.
He's there in the side because he is the yes man of the WICB. Player power is an issue in the West Indies cricket, but does the WICB seriously deserve any bit of respect?

The main qualification for the windies these days is being willing to turn up.
Sammy is, he plays. And his bowling stats arent anywhere near as bad as youd imagine, he does bat too high though.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:The main qualification for the windies these days is being willing to turn up.
Sammy is, he plays. And his bowling stats arent anywhere near as bad as youd imagine, he does bat too high though.

Sammy may not be a downright terrible bowler. However, PSW, the question is, whether he is 1 of the 4 best WI bowlers. I don't think the answer is yes. Ravi Rampaul, Fidel Edwards, Kemar Roach, Devendra Bishoo, and even Andre Russell potentialy, are better bowlers.
There is nothing much to talk about Sammy's batting. There should be at least 50 better batters than him in the WI. He's just keeping a good player out, and by no means is he a captain extraordinary.

Sammy is a quality T20 bowler!

Gregers wrote:Sammy is a quality T20 bowler!

And, on that basis, he's captaining a test team!!.

Darren Sammy has a better test bowling average than Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Morne Morkel, Zaheer Khan and Mitchell Johnson

GG wrote:Darren Sammy has a better test bowling average than Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Morne Morkel, Zaheer Khan and Mitchell Johnson

There are test batters with better batting average than that of Don Bradman!!.

Andy Gantenaume - 1 test average 112

msp83 wrote:

GG wrote:Darren Sammy has a better test bowling average than Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Morne Morkel, Zaheer Khan and Mitchell Johnson

There are test batters with better batting average than that of Don Bradman!!.

Not in the west indies squad thats for sure

Gayle has brought it on himself, he is clearly more interested in playing for his IPL side than for his country. I wouldn't ever want him back.

Bravo is different, I think there was some kind of misunderstanding. His attitude when playing for WI has always been spot on.

Sammy is the equivalent of Andrew McDonald. He is OK, but there are better players available.

Mike Selig wrote:Gayle has brought it on himself, he is clearly more interested in playing for his IPL side than for his country. I wouldn't ever want him back.

Bravo is different, I think there was some kind of misunderstanding. His attitude when playing for WI has always been spot on.

Sammy is the equivalent of Andrew McDonald. He is OK, but there are better players available.

In the series against Pakistan that the WI played after the WC, Chris Gayle, Ramnaresh Sarwan, and Shivnarine Chanderpaul were not picked. The WICB didn't say Gayle was rested or unavailable. According to Gayle, he wasn't told as to whether he was dropped or rested, something the WICB hasn't denied, they just said they were under the impression he was resting to rehabilitate an injury.
So then came the IPL offer, and Gayle happly took it. The WICB just used to turn the tables on Gayle, who in the past was very critical of some of the WICB decisions, including the one to organize a rather unplanned series against England during the IPL. The bord has had a history of not even paying the players during such out of the FTP series.
Chris Gayle is a victim of the power politics in WI cricket, and Sammy, he gets to play and captain the side certainly not on merit, of course not on terrific captaincy skills, but just because he a yes man for the WICB.

Gayle spent the whole WC looking like he'd rather play in the IPL. Personally I'd have dropped him after that (and his performances were nothing to write home about).

Wow, I have to go and play for my country instead of some mickey-mouse money making extravaganza, what hardship!

Sorry I have no sympathy.

I have no sympathy with the board either, they are incompetent, but that doesn't excuse Gayle's behaviour.

As far as I remember, very few WI battsmen played a substantive knock against quality opposition. Gayle scored 333 against Lanka in a in the first test after being sacked as captain for a yes man of the bord. I don't think someone who doesn't take things seriously can do that. Even in the WC, he did make some decent contributions, even while playing with an injury.
How has the other WI batters did in the WC? How many wickets did Sammy get? How many did he score?

Gayle had one good knock in the world cup against holland iirc. Sammy is a good bowler, why do you dislike him?

GG wrote:Gayle had one good knock in the world cup against holland iirc. Sammy is a good bowler, why do you dislike him?

I don't Sammy is there in the side for the right reasons. Someone who is brought in so that he can captain the side and stay in the goodbooks of the bord, I find that disgusting.
Sammy has done a job with the ball so far, But I don't think he is good enough to keep a quality player like Kemar Roach, or for that matter a fine young potential Andre Russell out of the side like this.

I'm sure if Sammy starts performing badly he will be dropped. Maybe give the captaincy to Ramdin and/or Samuels. For the time being he's doing a a fine job.

i don't see why sammy's getting a rough deal here. when you listen to any interview, all the other players says sammy is a top guy. sammy might not be the most gifted player to ever don the windies kit, but he certainly gives his all. no one can ask anymore of the guy.

Issac Watson wrote:i don't see why sammy's getting a rough deal here. when you listen to any interview, all the other players says sammy is a top guy. sammy might not be the most gifted player to ever don the windies kit, but he certainly gives his all. no one can ask anymore of the guy.

Sammy gives his all on the field. But he's a limited player, and there are better players who can produce better output than he can. Commitment and connections alone can't make an international cricketer, there should be some skill and tallent that should be the most important thing.

got to agree with msp.
the way Gayle has been treated is a disgrace.he was dropped after the wc even though he was their 2nd best batsman.And in his previous test series he scored a triple hundred whereas sammy was woeful in both series with both bat and ball.If the selections were on merit then its not too hard to understand who should have been dropped?Gayle was dropped and at that time,he got an IPL offer so why would any sane person decline it?

Chris Gayle, has to be in the windies team. He is their best player, and if they are to start winning games on a regular basis, then he has to play.

Another milestone, for Sammy, Allout 61 against Bangladesh, and got soundly thrashed!!!. Sammy rockes!!!.

Yes, it's Sammy's fault only 2 batsmen got double figures...

They won the series anyway, which is better NZ did on their last visit there.

He can't bat, he's not good enough to be one of the best 4 bowlers to make it to the side. So it has to be believed he is there because of some super-human captaincy skills. And 61 allout does speak loud and clear about those!!!!!!!.
Bring Gayle and Bravo back, stop ruining WI cricket any further!.
Not suggesting Gayle and Bravo alone can bring WI criket to its past glory, but that gives them the best chance to put up a fight.

sammy gets harsh comments IMO

look at his record in all forms of the game its very good.

play abandonded today in the test match due to waterlogged pitch.

cricketfan90 wrote:play abandonded today in the test match due to waterlogged pitch.

mate Shouldnt there be a separate thread for Test matches?

cricketfan90 wrote:sammy gets harsh comments IMO

look at his record in all forms of the game its very good.

Thats not the point.He is not as good as Roach,Edwards or Rampaul.Playing him means one of those three have to miss out.He is not at all useless IMO.I think he is a useful squad player who can do a handy job in case of injury to the first choice players.But he shouldnt be first choice.

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:

cricketfan90 wrote:play abandonded today in the test match due to waterlogged pitch.

mate Shouldnt there be a separate thread for Test matches?

it should but there isnt enough people intrested in this series, to have a new thread for it. With these smaller series's we should have a tour thread really, and then it could all go in one.

Ask a mod to change the heading then.Because the heading suggests that this is a T20 thread and to discuss test cricket in a T20 thread is a bit of an insult to Test Cricket IMO.

it was only a comment saying play was abandoned, no one has commented on the test, therefore it dosent deserve a thread, because no one has commented on it.

cricketfan90 wrote:
it was only a comment saying play was abandoned, no one has commented on the test, therefore it dosent deserve a thread, because no one has commented on it.

Dont start a thread.Just ask Fists or another mod or msp to change the heading into something like

"West Indies tour of Bangladesh thread."

you can if u want, im fine with it as it is.

shanky i have asked fists to edit the title.

cricketfan90 wrote:shanky i have asked fists to edit the title.

Terrific performance from Bangladesh today, made 350, and West Indies had to struggle to avoid the follow on. They need another 7 more runs for the same, with Marlon Samuels and Carlton Baugh at the crease .
Bangladesh priced out 5 wickets, and Shakib Al Hasan hasn't even taken one as yet!!!!. That's quite some achievement the new lad, Illias Sunny has taken 4 already, and seems a good find for Bangladesh, in place of the out of sourts Razzak.
Shakib and Sunny consistently troubled the WI batters, who barring Chanderpaul and Samuels struggled big time against the Bangladesh bowlers. Nassar Hosain provided good backup to Sunny and Shakib in the pace department, and both Robel Hosain and the recalled Shahadat Hosain had their moments as well. Shahadat picked up Lendl Simmonds, and Rubel kept things quite, and missed out on a wicket because the jaffa that crashed into Kraigg Brathwaite's stumps was a no ball.
For WI, Shiv Chanderpaul made 49, and the youngster Brathwaite played an interesting innings where he scored 33 of 135 balls.

A fine sporting decleration from Mushfiqur Rahim has given fresh life to the first test between Bangladesh and West Indies. Bangladesh declared at 119-3, and their first innings lead of 106 means WI will have to score 226 in at most 37 overs. They have got off to a terrible start, Illias Sunny getting Kraigg Brathwaite in the first over for a duck.
Come on Bangladesh!!!!!!.

2nd test starts today:

windies are 149-1. This pitch dosent spin as much as chittagong, so elias who took 5-for is out as is Mahmuddlah.