The Tree of the WWE

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This is a group opinion on how the wwe views its roster (I have not included the Diva's), at the moment, in terms of importance to the company. It is based upon the following criteria:

Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Level 7 - Superstars / lower card talent with no obvious story line at present, any TV time will be as a jobber

New additions to roster will automatically go on Level 7 until the next tree alteration.

Based upon current standings, the tree looks like this: (NB:Italics shows inactivity at present).

Level 1: --- HHH --- Cena --- Undertaker --- Punk --- Rock --- Lesner ---

Level 2: --- Sheamus(+1) --- Jericho --- Bryan(+3) --- Orton(-1) --- Big Show

Level 3: --- Barrett(+2) --- Del Rio(-1) --- Kane(+1) --- Rhodes --- Ziggler --- Miz(-1) --- Ryback(+2)

Level 4: --- Mysterio(-1) --- Christian(-1) --- R Truth(-1) --- Kingston(+1) --- Otunga (+1) --- Clay(+2) --- Santino (+2) --- Lord Tensai (-1) --- Cesaro --- Henry(-2)

Level 5: --- Bourne --- Sin Cara --- McIntyre (+1) --- Great Khali --- Slater(+2) --- Epico(+2) --- Primo(+2) --- Swagger(-1) --- Sandow --- Mahal(+2) --- Ryder (-1)

Level 6: --- Jackson --- Ryan(-1) --- Hunico(+1) ---Gabriel (+1) --- Kidd(+1) ---

Level 7: --- Tatsu --- Riley(-1) --- Camacho --- DiBiase(-1) --- Rest of the Roster ---

Future Endeavoured/Taken out of active roster:
John Morrison (highest ranking was Level 5)
Kevin Nash (still under contract, however no plans to return. Highest rank was Level 2)
Booker T (back to commentary duties)
Tyler Reks (highest ranking was Level 7)

Please feel free to comment on standings within the tree. More than 3 votes constitutes a change in standing.

I will be updating the tree based on comments after each PPV. The tree will be based upon the time leading to that PPV in question, and the PPV results itself. Therefore, you can comment on standings at anytime and the opinions will be counted after that PPV and any changes made will be done a few days after.

Next Edit will be after: Next PPV

Miz up, Santino up, Kofi up, Rhodes down, Ziggler down.

Why move Rhodes and Ziggler?

Gregers wrote:Why move Rhodes and Ziggler?

They aren't important to the top storylines or in the main events.

They were in the world title matches at ec tho and both had a good showing.

Gregers wrote:They were in the world title matches at ec tho and both had a good showing.

So where Khali, Show, R truth (actually involved in a big storyline all summer), Kofi and Santino!

What have either got lined up for mania? I think both are brilliant but by the categories set out in the first post they are level 3.

Santino and Kingston level 4 without a doubt.

Any more opinions?

Just so you know I have been looking back at previous months results and it is very up and down. More so than I thought when I started doing this.

Orton - Level 2 ?
Rhodes - Level 3
Ziggler - Level 3
Ryder - Level 4
Clay - Level 5 (as back in developmental)
Mahal - Level 6
Epico - Level 6
Santino - Level 4
Riley - Level 7
Kingston - Level 4
Otunga - Level 4
Nash - Remove

TwisT wrote:Any more opinions?

Just so you know I have been looking back at previous months results and it is very up and down. More so than I thought when I started doing this.

It's up and down because people react to every single push and PPV appearance to move people up and down, rather than looking to see if they fit in with the descriptions.

Gabriel got a PPV match, and was involved in a pretty neat Cheese and Fart promo.

Level 5 I reckon?

Definitely above McIntyre. It makes no sense that McIntyre would be above Gabriel.

Gabriel needs a new walk on music, it's very flat. That would elevate him a bit.

Changes made. Cheers guys.

Next change after WM. Will Cena drop like a stone?! Here is hoping

TwisT wrote:Changes made. Cheers guys.

Next change after WM. Will Cena drop like a stone?! Here is hoping

If he continues to be booked to go over in the promos then goes over clean he will need his own level right at the top of the tree.

I know I'm too late to vote for this change, but this is how I currently see the pecking order without looking at what other people have said. I started from scratch and tried to just see how people fit into the descriptions, and ended up with six groups of six:

Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
John Cena
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
CM Punk (WWE Champion)
Undertaker
Triple H
Randy Orton

Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Chris Jericho
Daniel Bryan (World Champion)
Sheamus (RR Winner)
Cody Rhodes (IC Champion)
The Miz
Dolph Ziggler

Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Wade Barrett
Kane
Alberto Del Rio (Injured)
Mark Henry
Big Show
Christian (Injured)

Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Rey Mysterio (Injured)
Jack Swagger (US Champion)
Kofi Kingston
Santino Marella
Zack Ryder
R-Truth

Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
David Otunga
Epico (Tag Champion)
Primo (Tag Champion)
Drew McIntyre
Sin Cara (Injured)
Brodus Clay

Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Evan Bourne (Suspended)
Justin Gabriel
Ted DiBiase (Injured)
Heath Slater
The Great Khali
Ezekiel Jackson

You are not to late, and thank you for this

If others agree with your views then I will adjust accordingly

SLATER WENT UP!
YES!!

(I just did a guitar action like the OMRB himself)

After WM, it is time to update the tree. Have you guys mulled over the movers and shakers? I will leave it until next RAW, because I am sure there will be developments after Mania.

There is only one man in Level 6 who featured at all in Wrestlemania - and that is The One Man Southern Rock Band Baby Yeah! (Apart from Khali - but he doesn't count as he is universally acknowledged as rubharb)

A little promotion to Level 5 is on the cards by my reckoning

Best additional segment of the night too.

After last nights RAW i believe we need to add 2 new names?

Spoiler:

Thanks for putting a spoiler box on Beer Cheers fella

I should prob avoid this thread then

Should prob avoid the whole site today

You should be alright in TT!

I dunno. Brah tends to disregard the spoiler box and go straight for the excited blurt method of discussion

Electric Demon wrote:I dunno. Brah tends to disregard the spoiler box and go straight for the excited blurt method of discussion

I've asked people to refrain from discussing it so it should be safe.

Cheers.

I might pop onto TT in an hour or so. Just give it time for your request to sink in. I've got a meeting in a moment anyway.

You mean time for Bull to get it out of his system?

Let me know when we are on the other side of the "I'm 6WF's version of Luna Vachon" phase, or whoever it was that came back. Then it's probably safe

Unfortunately I'd say Dolph needs to step down one with maybe ADR or Henry up one

Add Lesnar to Level 1.
Ziggler down to Level 3.
Add Lord Tensai to Level 4.
Would probably have Miz and Del Rio on Level 2 too.

Level 1 = "Vital to the company..."

Don't think Lesnar can go there after one F5?

I would move Otunga and Santino up a level each.

Kidd, Santino, Otunga, Show and Clay up

Tensai to level 3 or 4, Lesnar to level 1 or 2

Bourne, Ryan and Jackson down

Why hasn't the tree been edited after Mania yet?

Dx Dan. wrote:Why hasn't the tree been edited after Mania yet?

I would imagine people are waiting to see if the dust settles. I'll try and get my list done at lunchtime.

Level 1 - Vital to the company and PPV headliners with proven drawing ability
John Cena
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
CM Punk (WWE Champion)
Undertaker
Triple H
Brock Lesnar

Level 2 - Important to the top story lines but cannot main event successfully without it being alongside a Level 1 competitor
Randy Orton
Chris Jericho
Daniel Bryan
Sheamus (WHC)
Alberto Del Rio

Level 3 - Strong upper card / mid carder with regular and logical TV time - appear at all / nearly all PPV's
Cody Rhodes
Dolph Ziggler
Wade Barrett (Injured)
Big Show (IC Champion)
Lord Tensai
The Miz
Kane
Mark Henry

Level 4 - Solid mid carder with regular TV time and story lines - appear at most PPV's
Christian (Injured)
Rey Mysterio (Injured / Suspended)
Jack Swagger
Kofi Kingston (Tag Champion)
Santino Marella (US Champion)
Zack Ryder
R-Truth (Tag Champion)
David Otunga
Ryback
Antonio Cesaro

Level 5 - Mid carders who appear on TV most weeks - occasional PPV appearances
Epico
Primo
Drew McIntyre
Sin Cara (Injured)
Brodus Clay
Damien Sandow
Hunico

Level 6 - Superstars / lower card talent who may be put into story lines as enhancement talent - get their annual run at the Rumble
Evan Bourne (Injured)
Justin Gabriel
Ted DiBiase (Injured)
Heath Slater
The Great Khali
Ezekiel Jackson
Camacho
Jinder Mahal

Statto00 wrote:

Dx Dan. wrote:Why hasn't the tree been edited after Mania yet?

I would imagine people are waiting to see if the dust settles. I'll try and get my list done at lunchtime.

I was waiting until after RAW tonight. There have been a lot of developments, Lesner obviously being one. Wanted to see how that panned out before I updated the tree.

Feel free to make your suggestions.

Not had time at lunchtime today (been mock NFL drafting instead), so will make my suggestions after RAW now.

I have changed the tree based upon weighing up all the feedback. If people see any glaring errors then please feel free to say. I won't confirm the tree until tonight for that reason

Level 5 : Bourne --- Sin Cara --- McIntyre (+1) --- Clay(+1) --- Great Khali --- Ryback ---

Heath Slater is on TV more than at least 4 of these yet is a level below. Porquoi?

Level 1: The storyline so far makes it quite clear that Brock Lesnar is "Vital to the company and a PPV headliner with proven drawing ability", so can't see how he's only a Level 2. Also, is there a question mark now over the active status of HHH and Undertaker?

Level 2: The rest of the guys currently there (other than Lesnar) I agree with, with the addition of The Miz (who still made a big pin at WM28, remember).

Level 3: I'd keep Christian in Level 3, rather than relegating him to 4 simply because he's injury prone.

Level 4: Other than Christian, no problems with this level.

Level 5: I'm with ED on this one, sadly, that Heath Slater is easily as active as the other guys in there and fits the L5 description. I'd probably add the Tag Champions too...

I have moved Lesner and Slater up. Miz, I am really not sure at of at the moment. He is straddling 2 and 3, and I would like to see if a storyline develops in further weeks.

Tag champs.....yes they are tag champs but as the division is down the gutter, how can they move up?

Spoiler:

Christian is a difficult one, and I can see him and Rey moving up once they come back. HHH and Taker, although not really active, you would say would headline (or be in one of the main matches) of any PPV they took part in.

EDIT: After thinking about it some more I have lifted Epico and Primo up. They were on TV, regardless of the match outcome

Surely Orton is more than capable of headlining a PPV, as he has done numerous times in the past. If he was in the main event scene all the time still pople would be moaning about all the same faces. Just because he is taking a break from the title scene doesnt mean he isnt capable or isnt going to main event in the next couple of months and a feud with Kane is hardly a bad push when he wins eventually.

Can I ask why Orton isn't level 1?

Gregers wrote:Can I ask why Orton isn't level 1?

Because at present he is nowhere near the level of Cena, Punk etc. He is WWE's AJ Styles and is currently in mid card feuds.

^ This. At present it seems apparent that the WWE don't currently have the confidence in Orton to carry a main event feud on his own.

Tree will be updated in the next few days, so get your opinions in now guys

Hi guys....will update this in an hour. Can you speed dial any changes you feel need making.....

I think Santino needs to move down 1...Clay up 1.....Miz down 1 (after his loss to Clay)...Tensai MAYBE up 1?

Over the Limit has now passed (i must get my timings right, this PPV passed me by)

Any changes need making? Big Show up?

Tensai to Level 5.

get rid of taker.

I have been slacking a bit doing this as my interest in the WWE flags a little. However, I will stick to it because it has been going on for 8 months now.

Any movers and shakers guys?