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Post by barragan Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:49 am

Which mainstream brands do you associate with the following product types? Only 2 allowed per category:

Drivers
Fairway woods
Hybrids
Irons
Wedges
Putters
Balls
Footware
Gloves
Carry/Stand bags
Trolley/Tour bags
DMD's

Feel free to add any other categories I've missed.

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Post by Davie Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:51 pm

BB - are you asking for peoples' opinions on the biggest names - or the ones they would buy?

Like burgers - most associated would be McDonalds but best would be Wendys Wink

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Post by McLaren Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:31 pm

Without really being able to describe it I think I know what you are getting at so here goes;

Drivers TM, callaway
Fairway woods titliest, ping
Hybrids ping, adams
Irons mizuno, titleist
Wedges vokey, cleveland
Putters scotty, ping
Balls titleist, bridgstone
Footware footjoy, adidas
Gloves nike, FJ
Carry/Stand bags ping, sun mountain
Trolley/Tour bags titleist,
DMD's what is a DMD?


Not all of them are what I would go for or what I understand to be the best in each category but it is just a feeling.
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Post by kwinigolfer Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:01 pm

Drivers: TaylorMade / Callaway
F/W's: Ping / Adams
Hybrids: Adams / Ping
Irons: Ping / Titleist
Wedges: Vokey / Cleveland
Putters: Odyssey / SCameron
Balls: Titleist / Srixon
Footware: Ecco / FJ
Gloves: Never wear 'em
Carry Bag: Sun Mountain
Tour bags: Caddie
DMD: I'm stumped on that. Hope it's obscene.

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Post by super_realist Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:03 pm

Do people associate particular brands with certain types of people?

E.g. Wilson or Macgregor for old duffers.

Nike for Woods worshippers,

Titleist, those who have got sick of Woods and are now following Rory

TM for the gullible

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Post by Maverick Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:14 pm

Like burgers - most associated would be McDonalds but best would be Wendys

No way the best burgers are from 5 Guys, damn those are some seriously good burgers.

Not quite sure what the original OP is about, would it be what w think most people would associate brands to club or what we have/would buy.

So i'll assume it's what most people would associate with each item, not what I would, as that'd be a completely different list.

Drivers - Taylormade, Callaway
Fairway woods - Taylormade, Ping
Hybrids - Taylormade, Cobra(baffler)
Irons - Taylormade, Ping
Wedges - Cleveland, Vokey
Putters - Ping, Odyssey
Balls - Titleist, Srixon
Footware - FJ, Adidas
Gloves - FJ, Dunlop(the amount of these you see is unreal)
Carry/Stand bags - Ping, Taylormade
Trolley/Tour bags - Ping, Taylormade
DMD's - Skycaddie, Bushnell.

Thas the list I think would be most general to the majority of club golfers and non golfers, based on the amount of Aggressive marketing TM do I think its clear why they figure heavily on what I think people associate to that couple with the amount of club options they have out at anyone time.

If I was giving my list it would be as follows

Drivers - Adams, Nike
Fairway woods - Adams, Mizuno
Hybrids - Cobra, Adams
Irons - Cobra, Bridgestone
Wedges - Adams, Cleveland
Putters - Taylormade, Ping
Balls - Nike, Bridgestone
Footware - Ecco, Nike
Gloves - Bridgestone, FJ
Carry/Stand bags - Ping, Sun Mountain
Trolley/Tour bags - Cobra, Titleist
DMD's - Sky Caddie, Bushnell

Theres only a couple of cross overs on my list compared to what I think is in general associated with each area


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Post by Eyetoldyouso Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:15 pm

Drivers Taylor Made/Callaway
Fairway woods Titleist/Ping
Hybrids TM/Adams
Irons Mizuno/Titleist
Wedges Titleist Vokey/Cleveland
Putters Scotty Cameron/Odyssey
Balls Titleist/Srixon
Footware FJ/Adidas
Gloves FJ/Nike
Carry/Stand bags Sun Mountain/Izzo
Trolley/Tour bags TM/Callaway
DMD's Skycaddie/Bushnell

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Post by Maverick Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:18 pm

super_realist wrote:Do people associate particular brands with certain types of people?

E.g. Wilson or Macgregor for old duffers.

Nike for Woods worshippers,

Titleist, those who have got sick of Woods and are now following Rory

TM for the gullible

Indeed SR I to do that. My associations would be.

TM for gullible flash prats - e.g my brother......

Titleist - those that are stuck with an old brand that really is not moving forward/ new rory bum crawlers

Wilson - Tennis players that make to transition to golf

Cleveland - Those that are trying to hard to be different

Cobra/Adams - Those that like quality products and want to play golf (being biased as I play them Whistle )

Queue a berating from those that play the above brands Run

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Post by super_realist Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:20 pm

Played against a guy who had his name stitched into his Nike tour bag (Prat) a while back, everything in it was also Nike.
Simply putting the name on his bag was enough to make me want to beat him. boxing

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Post by Maverick Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:28 pm

super_realist wrote:Played against a guy who had his name stitched into his Nike tour bag (Prat) a while back, everything in it was also Nike.
Simply putting the name on his bag was enough to make me want to beat him. boxing

Now imagine that in TM and thats my brother! Whenver we play together I have to tell him what a man sausage he looks, fortunately for him his handicap is low enough to utilise whats in his bag instead of looking like all the gear no idea, he still looks like a tool though!

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Post by McLaren Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:28 pm

I have to admit when I see those big oversized callaway irons in someones bag I immediately think "duffer".
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Post by kwinigolfer Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:31 pm

s_r:
Speaking perhaps as an old duffer, you've no idea how much I'd love to have my old and much treasured McGregor Eye-O-Matic driver back. Never had a driver before or since that I could hit the ball straighter with.

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Post by super_realist Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:32 pm

Can't you get your hands on one?

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:51 pm

Can't find the old persimmon one which was just the job for me. Their newer drivers just don't give me the same feel.
Which is why I use a 3-wood instead.

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Post by barragan Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:47 am

Davie wrote:BB - are you asking for peoples' opinions on the biggest names - or the ones they would buy?

Exactly what it says on the tin - Which mainstream brands do you associate with these product types? Not necessarily the one's you'd buy - just the brands which come to mind when thinking about particular products. Here are mine:

Drivers - TM, Callaway
Fairway woods - Titleist, Callaway
Hybrids - Adams, TM
Irons - Mizuno, Titleist
Wedges - Vokey, Cleveland
Putters - Ping, Odyssey
Balls - Titleist
Footware - FJ, Adidas
Gloves - FJ
Carry/Stand bags - Ping
Trolley/Tour bags - Titleist, Mizuno
DMD's - Sky Caddie, Bushnell

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Post by Davie Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:52 am

OK these are the ones I associate (I've dropped a few categories as I don't really associate anyone with them

Drivers - Callaway, Taylor Made
Irons - Mizuno, Callaway
Wedges - Vokey, Cleveland
Putters - Ping, Odyssey
Balls - Titleist, Srixon
Footware - Footjoy
Gloves - Footjoy, Ecco
DMD's - Skycaddie, Bushnell

Very similar to your own list, BB

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Post by barragan Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:00 am

interesting patterns - most people listing the same brand/products on the whole, but many seem to be swimming against the current when it comes to their own perception of quality.
personally the only categories i don't have associated brands/products from my own list are drivers, woods, hybrids and putter. i'm a dead fish with the rest.

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Post by drive4show Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:41 am

Isn't it amazing how we make assumptions based on how a player looks on the first tee.

Flash TM tour bag, full set of white headed woods and big cavity back irons = man sausage that can't hit a barn door.

Titleist carry bag, battered old set of 'players' blades, Titleist driver and 3 wood, scruffy old towel draped over the bag = Oops, I'm in for a stuffing today

Laugh

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Post by drive4show Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:43 am

My list is virtually identical to Davie's although I'd add adidas shoes in there.

Funnily enough, never thought of Ecco gloves before but bought a couple lat week and they are really nice. £11.99 for the leather ones which is reasonable compared to top of the range FJ and Titleist etc.

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Post by JDandfries Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:49 am

Drivers - Ping and Taylor Made
Fairway woods - Titleist and Taylor Made
Hybrids - Adams and Ping
Irons - Mizuno and Titleist
Wedges - Titleist and Cleveland
Putters - Ping and Titleist
Balls - Titleist and Srixon
Footware - Footjoy and Adidas
Gloves - Footjoy and Kasco
Carry/Stand bags - Ping and Titleist
Trolley/Tour bags - Titleist and Taylor Made
DMD's - Sky caddie and Bushnell


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Post by Davie Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:55 am

D4S - I wouldn't previously have thought of Ecco either but I won a couple, along with an Ecco shoe bag for nearest the pin on Pro's day this year and I've been really impressed with them

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Post by JDandfries Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:25 am

Just goes to show, despite the majority of Callaway's golf equiptment being absolute garbage, most people still associate Callaway as brand.

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Post by JPX Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:21 am

Drivers - Titleist / Ping
Fairway woods - Titleist / Ping
Hybrids - Don't use
Irons - Mizuno / Titleist
Wedges - Mizuno / Cleveland
Putters - Rife / Ping
Balls - Titleist / Srixon
Footware - Footjoy / Puma
Gloves - Footjoy / Mizuno
Carry/Stand bags - Mizuno / Ping
Trolley/Tour bags Mizuno / Titleist
DMD's - don't use

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Post by McLaren Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:23 am

JPX

You seem to have gone a stage further and associated your being with a brand.
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Post by JPX Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:29 am

What?

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Post by McLaren Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:36 am

You are called JPX.
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Post by Marcus Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:38 am

Drivers: Titleist/Callaway
Fairway woods: Titleist/Callaway
Hybrids: Mizuno/Callaway
Irons: Mizuno/Titleist
Wedges: Titleist/Cleveland
Putters: Titleist/Odyssey
Balls: Titleist/Srixon
Footwear: Footjoy/Adidas
Gloves: Titleist/Footjoy
Carry/Stand bags: Titleist/Sun Mountain
Trolley/Tour bags: Titleist/Callaway
DMD's: Nikon/Leupold

Overrated crap that's only popular because it's on TV: Taylormade/Nike

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Post by JDandfries Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:40 am

Taylor made is quality, best irons ever made, 300 forged - fact

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Post by drive4show Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:42 am

Marcus wrote:Drivers: Titleist/Callaway
Fairway woods: Titleist/Callaway
Hybrids: Mizuno/Callaway
Irons: Mizuno/Titleist
Wedges: Titleist/Cleveland
Putters: Titleist/Odyssey
Balls: Titleist/Srixon
Footwear: Footjoy/Adidas
Gloves: Titleist/Footjoy
Carry/Stand bags: Titleist/Sun Mountain
Trolley/Tour bags: Titleist/Callaway
DMD's: Nikon/Leupold
Overrated crap that's only popular because it's on TV: Taylormade/Nike

Interesting choice, I thought Bushnell would be the stock answer for most people. Leupold are best known for cameras/lenses??

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Post by Marcus Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:51 am

Yes, they're better known for camera lenses, but their rangefinders are fantastic. I bought a GX-3 recently (seduced by the shiny chrome bits) and gave my Nikon away to one of my chums.

It's far more solid than a Bushnell or Nikon, as it's made from aluminum rather than plastic, and well worth the money despite the slightly higher price.

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Post by super_realist Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:55 am

I wasn't aware of these Leupold lasers. They look really nice, with a vintage camera like finish.

I had a really nice Nikon in a metal case which I stupidly sold once I got a GPS. Should have kept it.

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Post by drive4show Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:58 am

I've got a Nikon, really love it. Easy to focus on the target and nice small compact size.

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Post by George1507 Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:33 am

The advertising for dmds is astonishing. Skycaddie and bushnell and leupold all say 'legal for tournament play. How long is it going to be before someone stops them from saying something that is misleadingin two ways_ they are not allowed under the rules, and not allowed in most professional tournaments either.

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Post by Doon the Water Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:04 am

Here goes.

Driver/MacGregor
Fairway woods/Hogan
Irons/ Nichol
Wedges/MacGregor
Putter/Acushnet
Balls/ Silver King

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Post by George1507 Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:30 am

Silver king! Rofl.

Penfold ace
Dunlop 65
commando
Dunlop warwick

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Post by super_realist Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:00 am

Dunlop Warwick, Laugh

Haven't seen them for years.

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Post by McLaren Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:09 am

Yes apparently he carried out some restoration work............


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Post by Maverick Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:38 am

George1507 wrote:The advertising for dmds is astonishing. Skycaddie and bushnell and leupold all say 'legal for tournament play. How long is it going to be before someone stops them from saying something that is misleadingin two ways_ they are not allowed under the rules, and not allowed in most professional tournaments either.

I don't think its misleading at all. They are not allowed to openly state in advertising something which is not true.

DMD's are legal under R&A rules in all club competitions unless the specific club has a loval rule stating otherwise. They are also legal and allowed for use on the EuroPro tour, SkyCaddie even sponsor the tour.

Their not legal on ET and PGA tour through rulins the governing bodies set for their tournaments but they are allowed at club level and some pro levels. Only amateur events that don't allow iw are county and international level

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Post by liegerwoods Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:21 am


Drivers titleist,callaway
Fairway woods titleist,mizuno
Hybrids mizuno
Irons mizuno
Wedges vokey, mizuno
Putters bettanardi
Balls prov1, srixon, wilson dx3 soft
Footware footjoy
Gloves footjoy
Carry/Stand bags mizuno
Trolley/Tour bags mizuno
DMD's bushnell,skycaddie

my addition

waterproofs galvin green, sunice


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Post by tarka Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:33 am

drivers: TM and Ping (mine is exotics)
fw' woods - Tour Edge Exotics and titleist (mine are exotics and Nakashima)
Hybrids - Adams and TM (mine is exotics)
Irons - callaway and mizuno (mine are callaway)
Putter - oddesey and scotty (mine is never compromise at the mo)
balls - titelist and srixon (I play srixon)
bag - titleist or TM (mine is exotics)
caddy - powacaddy or motocaddy (mine is motocaddy)

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Post by tarka Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:42 am

forgot to add

wedges - vokey or cleveland (1 have 3xvega at the mo, 2 cleveland cg15 in spare room)

footwear - nike or fj (I have a pair of each)

waterproofs - sunice and galvin (I have a set of sunice and nike)

clobber - nike or galvin is what I like

breeks - stromberg or treadbare shyte-stained farahs (I prefer the latter)

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Post by George1507 Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:22 pm

Maverick wrote:
George1507 wrote:The advertising for dmds is astonishing. Skycaddie and bushnell and leupold all say 'legal for tournament play. How long is it going to be before someone stops them from saying something that is misleadingin two ways_ they are not allowed under the rules, and not allowed in most professional tournaments either.

I don't think its misleading at all. They are not allowed to openly state in advertising something which is not true.

DMD's are legal under R&A rules in all club competitions unless the specific club has a loval rule stating otherwise. They are also legal and allowed for use on the EuroPro tour, SkyCaddie even sponsor the tour.

Their not legal on ET and PGA tour through rulins the governing bodies set for their tournaments but they are allowed at club level and some pro levels. Only amateur events that don't allow iw are county and international level

No,that,s wrong. They are not allowed under the rules of golf. It's either 13.3 or 14.3 , can't recall which, that outlaws dmds unless there's a local rule allowing them. So if there's no local rule, they are illegal. So to say they are legal for tournament play is clearly both wrong and misleading, and that's why the ads should be stopped. According to the r and a less than half the clubs in the uk have the local rule, so I'd say it was highly misleading.

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Post by Maverick Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:29 pm

Ok then what about the EuroPro that does allow the use of them that's professional tournament play so all the while they allow it, its not false advertising as they can point to that as fact!

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Post by George1507 Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:37 pm

OK,that's true but most ads in golf mags and websites are aimed at amateurs and not professionals. I suspect they mean club competitions when they say tournaments, people on here even refer to club events as tournaments, it sounds better than monthly medal. And if the rules say they are illegal, then I think the ads are misleading.

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Post by drive4show Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:06 pm

George

You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet over DMD's. The fact is, they are here to stay. It's all word play, R&A USGA, local rules. The fact remains that whichever way you slice and dice it, you ARE allowed to use them in the vast majority of club or open competitions. I play a lot of opens and I have never played in one that prohibits their use in the 3 years that I've had my laser.

And the bottom line is they speed up play, much quicker than pacing out a yardage from a post or sprinkler head.

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Post by Doon the Water Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:11 pm

Don't forget the GBD
{Goes better downhill}

And I forgot Saxone shoes

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Post by George1507 Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:01 pm

I don't have an issue with dmds. I have one.

It's the ambiguity in the rules that bothers me. Not allowed in the rules, but allowed by local rules is a recipe for misunderstanding, as maverick's post shows.

I want to avoid players being disqualified for doing something that they think is allowed in the rules bothers me. There was a prize giving at a club recently where five of the prizewinners were dqed when the club confirmed they hadn't passed the local rule.

This comes back, to the point I made on here about misleading advertising. It would help people to understand the rule if companies like bushnell didn't say things like 'legal for tournament play', without qualifying it.

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Post by Marcus Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:59 pm

I thought the R&A had recently changed the rules? Aren't they now legal unless otherwise stipulated in the specific course/tournament's rules?

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Post by George1507 Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:28 pm

Doh! They aren't legal unless the club in question allows them by a local rule.

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Post by ESMD Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:07 pm

Drivers - Titleist/ TM
Fairway woods - Titleist/Callaway
Hybrids - TM
Irons - Titleist/ Mizuno
Wedges - Vokey/ Cleveland
Putters - Odyssey/ Scotty Cameron
Ball - Pro V1X
Footwear - FJ
Gloves - FJ
Carry bag - Ping/ Sun Mountain
Tour Bag - Titleist
DMD - Bushnell

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Join date : 2011-12-05
Location : St Andrews

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