Chisora vs Helenius
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Chisora vs Helenius
Hello everyone,
Del Boy Chisora is going for the European title against Helenius tonight in Helsinki.
Whats your opinions on this one?Tough fight for Del Boy but I think the Helenius camp are underestimating Chisora.
Del Boy came in at a nice lean (for him) 243 whilst Helenius came in slightly lighter at 239.
I think Chisora is at a good weight for this one, and I think he has the power to give Helenius problems. He has no fear of fighting big guys, as he gave Fury problems in his only defeat plus he's beaten the taller Sam Sexton twice.
Helenius though is a terrific puncher. His record is padded though with former champions who have now gone well past their very best (Peter, Brewster and Liakovich).
Helenius' reach will be key. If he can keep Chisora off him and box him for twelve rounds then he should win easily. But if Chisora can get in and fight in his terms, getting the rough and tumble and landing some of those big hooks, then I think he can cause the upset. Chisora needs to make into a brawl to win. If Helenius boxes, he wins by late stoppage or wide UD.
TMWOJB prediction: I think Helenius likes a fight and will want to go toe to toe with Chisora. This will play into our mans hands and I think he'll win by surprise TKO in the mid-late rounds.
Other predictions for tonight:
Cotto TKO's Margharito
Rios TKO's Murray (Sorry John)
Mares UD's Agbeko
Moreno UD's Darchinyan
Povetkin TKO's Boswell
Del Boy Chisora is going for the European title against Helenius tonight in Helsinki.
Whats your opinions on this one?Tough fight for Del Boy but I think the Helenius camp are underestimating Chisora.
Del Boy came in at a nice lean (for him) 243 whilst Helenius came in slightly lighter at 239.
I think Chisora is at a good weight for this one, and I think he has the power to give Helenius problems. He has no fear of fighting big guys, as he gave Fury problems in his only defeat plus he's beaten the taller Sam Sexton twice.
Helenius though is a terrific puncher. His record is padded though with former champions who have now gone well past their very best (Peter, Brewster and Liakovich).
Helenius' reach will be key. If he can keep Chisora off him and box him for twelve rounds then he should win easily. But if Chisora can get in and fight in his terms, getting the rough and tumble and landing some of those big hooks, then I think he can cause the upset. Chisora needs to make into a brawl to win. If Helenius boxes, he wins by late stoppage or wide UD.
TMWOJB prediction: I think Helenius likes a fight and will want to go toe to toe with Chisora. This will play into our mans hands and I think he'll win by surprise TKO in the mid-late rounds.
Other predictions for tonight:
Cotto TKO's Margharito
Rios TKO's Murray (Sorry John)
Mares UD's Agbeko
Moreno UD's Darchinyan
Povetkin TKO's Boswell
themadworldofjb- Posts : 205
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Hope he knocks the abusive, ordinary slob out.....
Helenius by comfortable decision... and hopefully putting this despisable piece of crud out to pasture..
Helenius by comfortable decision... and hopefully putting this despisable piece of crud out to pasture..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Helenius UD, for me.
Agree with your other predictions, except Povetkin UD I think it'll be and Cotto UD.
Agree with your other predictions, except Povetkin UD I think it'll be and Cotto UD.
Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Put a few quid on the Helenius stoppage.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Hope Helinius wins by ko/tko, would not want chisora stateside flying my flag.
Think margarito wins by stoppage round 9+
Think margarito wins by stoppage round 9+
aja424- Posts : 750
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Helenius all the way for me BUT could be a belter - anyone know where it can be watched?
ultra- Posts : 358
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
any of tonight's boxing on tv??
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Other than a punch, I see nothing in Helen to worry Del Boy. I'm hoping Del wins.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
All the boxing is on Boxnation tonight TopHat, apart from Prince Arron fight which is on SkySports 1
KP4959- Posts : 44
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Lance- Posts : 1712
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Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Exactly as I see it except for the KO part. Del has a sturdy chin I reckon. He's as thick as two short planks and I reckon his skull is equally thick.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Scottrf wrote:Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
He's also quite busy with decent stamina. He may outwork Helen.
What time is the fight anyway?
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
azania wrote:He's also quite busy with decent stamina. He may outwork Helen.
What time is the fight anyway?
The link I posted starts at 9:30, BoxNation programme starts at 7.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
PM me if you have decent streams.
Oh and that comment was meant to be "in comparison to Helen".
Oh and that comment was meant to be "in comparison to Helen".
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
I posted a legal stream yesterday but they deleted it...
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/video-helenius-wont-freeze-against-chisora-plus-watch-fight-live-free
Not sure if it will be geo blocked but worth a try.
Otherwise they may be a boxingguru who can tell you where to look.
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/video-helenius-wont-freeze-against-chisora-plus-watch-fight-live-free
Not sure if it will be geo blocked but worth a try.
Otherwise they may be a boxingguru who can tell you where to look.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Scottrf wrote:Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
agree with that. but i wasnt impressed with helenius against liakhovich. if liakhovich hadnt gassed he could have won that one
Lance- Posts : 1712
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Scottrf wrote:I posted a legal stream yesterday but they deleted it...
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/video-helenius-wont-freeze-against-chisora-plus-watch-fight-live-free
Not sure if it will be geo blocked but worth a try.
Otherwise they may be a boxingguru who can tell you where to look.
Thanks for the link - really think this'll be a good 'un but if 'del boy' takes shots like he did against fury then I think he's a gonner. Helen can dig and fury didn't seem too bothered on the night!!
ultra- Posts : 358
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
If Chisora turns up interested I think he wins, not been impressed with Helenius
KP4959- Posts : 44
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
I don't really give Chisora a chance in this. He's gonna get his head jabbed off for the first few rounds then he's going to start taking heavy shots. I see the ref jumping in at around the 8 mark with the fat angry slob still on his feet, but protesting despite having only thrown about 4 meaningful punches the whole fight.
Chisora has never shown anything to impress me other than the Sam Sexton fight or KO'ing a disinterested Danny Williams who had Mr Kipling and Ronald McDonald as his trainers.
If Helenius loses I will be VERY surprised.
Chisora has never shown anything to impress me other than the Sam Sexton fight or KO'ing a disinterested Danny Williams who had Mr Kipling and Ronald McDonald as his trainers.
If Helenius loses I will be VERY surprised.
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
Mr Bounce wrote:I don't really give Chisora a chance in this. He's gonna get his head jabbed off for the first few rounds then he's going to start taking heavy shots. I see the ref jumping in at around the 8 mark with the fat angry slob still on his feet, but protesting despite having only thrown about 4 meaningful punches the whole fight.
Chisora has never shown anything to impress me other than the Sam Sexton fight or KO'ing a disinterested Danny Williams who had Mr Kipling and Ronald McDonald as his trainers.
If Helenius loses I will be VERY surprised.
I'm not writing Chisora off just yet. He's come in much decent shape than he did against fury, around 15lbs lighter! But whether he's able to apply some aptitude into his work when he's up against it remains to be seen.
Shame he doesn't have much interest in boxing as a sport, he has a reasonably decent chin and can put some combinations together.
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Re: Chisora vs Helenius
interesting start to fight, Del Boy started fast, does he have the stamina?
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