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Post by themadworldofjb Sat 03 Dec 2011, 11:42 am

Hello everyone,

Del Boy Chisora is going for the European title against Helenius tonight in Helsinki.

Whats your opinions on this one?Tough fight for Del Boy but I think the Helenius camp are underestimating Chisora.

Del Boy came in at a nice lean (for him) 243 whilst Helenius came in slightly lighter at 239.

I think Chisora is at a good weight for this one, and I think he has the power to give Helenius problems. He has no fear of fighting big guys, as he gave Fury problems in his only defeat plus he's beaten the taller Sam Sexton twice.

Helenius though is a terrific puncher. His record is padded though with former champions who have now gone well past their very best (Peter, Brewster and Liakovich).

Helenius' reach will be key. If he can keep Chisora off him and box him for twelve rounds then he should win easily. But if Chisora can get in and fight in his terms, getting the rough and tumble and landing some of those big hooks, then I think he can cause the upset. Chisora needs to make into a brawl to win. If Helenius boxes, he wins by late stoppage or wide UD.

TMWOJB prediction: I think Helenius likes a fight and will want to go toe to toe with Chisora. This will play into our mans hands and I think he'll win by surprise TKO in the mid-late rounds.

Other predictions for tonight:

Cotto TKO's Margharito
Rios TKO's Murray (Sorry John)
Mares UD's Agbeko
Moreno UD's Darchinyan
Povetkin TKO's Boswell
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 03 Dec 2011, 11:44 am

Hope he knocks the abusive, ordinary slob out.....

Helenius by comfortable decision... and hopefully putting this despisable piece of crud out to pasture..

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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 03 Dec 2011, 2:21 pm

Helenius UD, for me.

Agree with your other predictions, except Povetkin UD I think it'll be and Cotto UD.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 03 Dec 2011, 2:52 pm

Put a few quid on the Helenius stoppage.

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Post by aja424 Sat 03 Dec 2011, 3:55 pm

Hope Helinius wins by ko/tko, would not want chisora stateside flying my flag.
Think margarito wins by stoppage round 9+

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Post by ultra Sat 03 Dec 2011, 4:04 pm

Helenius all the way for me BUT could be a belter - anyone know where it can be watched?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sat 03 Dec 2011, 4:17 pm

any of tonight's boxing on tv??

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Post by azania Sat 03 Dec 2011, 4:33 pm

Other than a punch, I see nothing in Helen to worry Del Boy. I'm hoping Del wins.

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Post by KP4959 Sat 03 Dec 2011, 4:58 pm

All the boxing is on Boxnation tonight TopHat, apart from Prince Arron fight which is on SkySports 1

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Post by Lance Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:09 pm

helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision

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Post by azania Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:17 pm

Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision

Exactly as I see it except for the KO part. Del has a sturdy chin I reckon. He's as thick as two short planks and I reckon his skull is equally thick.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:37 pm

Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.

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Post by azania Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:39 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.

He's also quite busy with decent stamina. He may outwork Helen.

What time is the fight anyway?

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Post by Scottrf Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:42 pm

azania wrote:He's also quite busy with decent stamina. He may outwork Helen.

What time is the fight anyway?
drumroll

Laugh

The link I posted starts at 9:30, BoxNation programme starts at 7.

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Post by azania Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:52 pm

PM me if you have decent streams.

Oh and that comment was meant to be "in comparison to Helen".

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Post by Scottrf Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:56 pm

I posted a legal stream yesterday but they deleted it...

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/video-helenius-wont-freeze-against-chisora-plus-watch-fight-live-free

Not sure if it will be geo blocked but worth a try.

Otherwise they may be a boxingguru who can tell you where to look.

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Post by azania Sat 03 Dec 2011, 5:58 pm

Cheers

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Post by Lance Sat 03 Dec 2011, 6:38 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Lance wrote:helenius is a great puncher but average boxer. if its a tear up chisora gets KOd. if he boxes smart he could win a decision
Chisora is a weak puncher and average boxer.

agree with that. but i wasnt impressed with helenius against liakhovich. if liakhovich hadnt gassed he could have won that one

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Post by ultra Sat 03 Dec 2011, 8:12 pm

Scottrf wrote:I posted a legal stream yesterday but they deleted it...

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/video-helenius-wont-freeze-against-chisora-plus-watch-fight-live-free

Not sure if it will be geo blocked but worth a try.

Otherwise they may be a boxingguru who can tell you where to look.

Thanks for the link - really think this'll be a good 'un but if 'del boy' takes shots like he did against fury then I think he's a gonner. Helen can dig and fury didn't seem too bothered on the night!!

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Post by KP4959 Sat 03 Dec 2011, 8:15 pm

If Chisora turns up interested I think he wins, not been impressed with Helenius

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 03 Dec 2011, 8:31 pm

I don't really give Chisora a chance in this. He's gonna get his head jabbed off for the first few rounds then he's going to start taking heavy shots. I see the ref jumping in at around the 8 mark with the fat angry slob still on his feet, but protesting despite having only thrown about 4 meaningful punches the whole fight.

Chisora has never shown anything to impress me other than the Sam Sexton fight or KO'ing a disinterested Danny Williams who had Mr Kipling and Ronald McDonald as his trainers. Rolling Eyes

If Helenius loses I will be VERY surprised.

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Post by All Time Great Sat 03 Dec 2011, 8:52 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:I don't really give Chisora a chance in this. He's gonna get his head jabbed off for the first few rounds then he's going to start taking heavy shots. I see the ref jumping in at around the 8 mark with the fat angry slob still on his feet, but protesting despite having only thrown about 4 meaningful punches the whole fight.

Chisora has never shown anything to impress me other than the Sam Sexton fight or KO'ing a disinterested Danny Williams who had Mr Kipling and Ronald McDonald as his trainers. Rolling Eyes

If Helenius loses I will be VERY surprised.

I'm not writing Chisora off just yet. He's come in much decent shape than he did against fury, around 15lbs lighter! But whether he's able to apply some aptitude into his work when he's up against it remains to be seen.

Shame he doesn't have much interest in boxing as a sport, he has a reasonably decent chin and can put some combinations together.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 03 Dec 2011, 10:21 pm

interesting start to fight, Del Boy started fast, does he have the stamina?

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