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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:30 pm

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/02/team-rubio-says-chavez-jr-skipped-doping-test-after-fight/

Would explain ALOT
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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:34 pm

figthtnews.com, Promciones de Pueblo, representatives for middleweight challenger Marco Antonio Rubio (53-6-1, 46 KO’s), are saying that WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (45-0-1, 31 KO’s) failed to leave a urine sample for examination for performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) after last Saturday night’s fight between Chavez Jr. and Rubio in San Antonio, Texas. Team Rubio say that Chavez Jr. left without giving a urine sample.


In the past, Chavez Jr. was suspended after beating Troy Rowland in November 2009 after a diuretic, called “Furosemide”, showed up in Chavez Jr’s post-fight drug results. Diuretics are used for people to lose water weight. For a fighter who’s having problems waking weight, it could in theory help them fight in a weight class they can’t make weight for the normal way through dieting and exercise.

If what Rubio’s team says is true about Chavez Jr. leaving without having the drug test, it leaves open the question as to what happened. Drug testing are automatic parts of boxing now and it’s fairly rare that fighters fail to take them after fights. Rubio’s team wants Chavez Jr. to come back and be tested immediately are trying to get the World Boxing Council to enforce that. Will the WBC make Chavez Jr. come back to be tested is another question? How accurate are tests a day or more later?

Chavez Jr. weighed in at 181 pounds last night against Rubio, a gain of 21.5 pounds from his weigh-in weight the day before the fight. That’s a lot of weight but not an extreme amount. Rubio put on 12 pounds after the weigh-in and came in at 171. The middleweight weight limit is 160, and coming in at 181 the night of the fight, made Chavez Jr. in effect a cruiserweight in size in the ring.

Rubio was beaten by Chavez Jr. last night by a 12 round unanimous decision and had a lot problems with Chavez’s huge size in the fight. He simply wasn’t big enough and was roughed up and leaned on in close by the heavier Chavez Jr.

It’ll be interesting to see if the WBC will attempt to force Chavez Jr. to come back and take the drug test or whether they’ll ignore Team Rubio’s request or tell them it’s too late.


Just in case you can't read at work or something.

Very interesting and the fact that he is huge at the weight... Does make one wonder.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:35 pm

Whoa Georgey boy....Have to remember it's the beaten fighter's camp moaning...

Also have to remember the WBC is from Mexico so they are wasting energy if he has been taking diuretics.........

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:35 pm

I know it's a different sport but Rio Ferdinand missed a drug test and got an 8 month ban. If this is true the same sort of thing should be done.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is true the guy puts on a ridiculous amount of weight after the weigh in. Apparently he walks around close to 200lbs!
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Post by bellchees Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:36 pm

The WBC response of "We Forgot" is priceless.

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:40 pm

bellchees wrote:The WBC response of "We Forgot" is priceless.

Agreed; so corrupt!
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Post by bellchees Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:41 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I know it's a different sport but Rio Ferdinand missed a drug test and got an 8 month ban. If this is true the same sort of thing should be done.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is true the guy puts on a ridiculous amount of weight after the weigh in. Apparently he walks around close to 200lbs!

People in football who miss drug test are not usually given a ban at all, just Rio Ferdinand, most only get a fine I think. People who test positive for drugs get less of a ban than Rio did.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:42 pm

Can't be doing Julio any good If he is putting on that amount of weight before the fight..after the weigh in....

Awful lot of stress on the body......Think he's dragging too much...

Good job we don't have weigh-ins on fight day anymore hey!!

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:43 pm

IT was just because rio was famous - two of man cities players did the same and got eff all but a paltry fine - although city were small fry back then.

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:44 pm

Well Kolo got caught with diet pills and got a ban...
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Post by hampo17 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:45 pm

What a complete muppet.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:45 pm

bellchees wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I know it's a different sport but Rio Ferdinand missed a drug test and got an 8 month ban. If this is true the same sort of thing should be done.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is true the guy puts on a ridiculous amount of weight after the weigh in. Apparently he walks around close to 200lbs!

People in football who miss drug test are not usually given a ban at all, just Rio Ferdinand, most only get a fine I think. People who test positive for drugs get less of a ban than Rio did.

You don't here of many footballers failing drug tests to be fair. I think Ferdinand got banned because the rest of the squad turned up but he never. There was a Celtic player who failed an in house drug test about 6 years ago and the club just never played him for a few weeks until his tests were clean.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:45 pm

Yeah Kolo Toure got off didn't he..... Rolling Eyes

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:47 pm

Kolo toure is quite a big name though and diet pils may contain diuretics which sometimes mask steroid use. - I guess its to make an example of the famous. Rio was moving house and forgot, then called in and took test next day not even testing positive..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:49 pm

Are you a Utd fan Shah by any chance???

Fact of the matter is he broke the rules.....Who were the two Man City by the way??

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:49 pm

ANYWAY....back to Chavez and that would hypothetically be his second offence; what would be a suitable punishment??
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Post by tcribb Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:49 pm

The F.A don't get anything right, as much as I don't like John Terry and his actions were terrible, the way people are acting is as if he'd shot someone.
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Post by bellchees Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:50 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yeah Kolo Toure got off didn't he..... Rolling Eyes

Kolo was caught intentionally using a banned substance and got less of a ban than Rio did.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:51 pm

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:ANYWAY....back to Chavez and that would hypothetically be his second offence; what would be a suitable punishment??

A year ban and a strip him of his belt (I'm laughing whilst typing this!!!)

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:52 pm

Actually i'm a luton fan - but had to write a report on rio and his drug test at the literacy test for boeing. one guy was christian negui and i'm not sure about the other - think they got 4000 pound fine

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:53 pm

Because he had the bottle to take the test...

Guess If you put your hands up you get a lesser sentence....

Long may it be so!!

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:54 pm

Were he to test positive again then anything less a lifetime ban would be a joke but all speculation at the moment, sounds like sour grapes from Rubio at the moment.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:56 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Were he to test positive again then anything less a lifetime ban would be a joke but all speculation at the moment, sounds like sour grapes from Rubio at the moment.

He failed to take the test they were pointing that out, stating that the other camp had something to complain about and it being lumped in the "Sour grapes" category happens way too often for my liking. No matter where the information has come from if it's true something serious should happen. (For once)

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 05 Feb 2012, 8:56 pm

Come on Ghosty....He's Mexican and a WBC champ!!! They'd probably give him a medal...

Feel better about flying now you've told me that Shah...

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 05 Feb 2012, 9:02 pm

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 05 Feb 2012, 9:05 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Were he to test positive again then anything less a lifetime ban would be a joke but all speculation at the moment, sounds like sour grapes from Rubio at the moment.

He failed to take the test they were pointing that out, stating that the other camp had something to complain about and it being lumped in the "Sour grapes" category happens way too often for my liking. No matter where the information has come from if it's true something serious should happen. (For once)

Has there been any official confirmation that he missed the test yet or are people just going by the word of Rubio?

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Post by School Project Sun 05 Feb 2012, 9:20 pm

I was speaking to Baltimora about this earlier.

Chavez in the past has failed drugs tests and been caught out: http://ringtalk.com/j-c-chavez-jr-caught-in-steroid-mess

There's countless other stories about it. The sad thing is, nothing is ever said about it.

There's also a fair few reports of him forgetting and the WBC just ignoring it. Personally I think he should be fined, stripped and at worse be taken to court over it.

The whole Arum/WBC/Roach "syndicate" is getting beyond and the fact that a guy can get away with it is sickening.

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Post by azania Mon 06 Feb 2012, 12:47 am

Diuretics also wash out PEDs. But he's the son of a mexican icon fighting for a mexican owned world belt. Nothing will be done. He should be stripped of his belt and the fight declared a NC.

Pity as he was getting some undue flak. But he has to pay for this and he won't be.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 06 Feb 2012, 7:57 am

This isnt good for team roach. If Chavez does test positive for an illegal substance, you know the pacquiao rumours will resurface.

He did look pretty strong on saturday. He was sluggish but he always is, he should have perhaps faded more given how much he had hydrated to the next day

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Post by OasisBFC Mon 06 Feb 2012, 10:12 am

god, imagine putting 22lbs on in 24 hours

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Post by trottb Tue 07 Feb 2012, 4:49 pm

Have just noticed on boxing news that it wasn't Chavez leaving but the WBC or Texas commision never administered the tests neither fighter had samples taken, this is all a little strange.

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