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Post by Adam D Sun 03 Jun 2012, 9:44 am

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Just got the press release for the squad so thought I would start a thread for it.

England name 12-man squad for third Investec Test match against West Indies

The England selectors today named a 12-man squad for the third Investec Test match against West Indies commencing Thursday June 7 at Edgbaston.

Pace bowler James Anderson is the only omission from the squad selected for both previous Investec Test matches against West Indies. Anderson received treatment during the course of the second Test for a minor quad problem and it has been decided that missing the final Test in the series will give the 29 year old an opportunity to overcome several minor injuries.
England won the second Test in the three match series by nine wickets at Trent Bridge to secure a series win having won the first Test at Lord’s by five wickets. Preparations for the final Investec Test in the series will begin in Edgbaston on Tuesday.

National selector, Geoff Miller, said: “We have been made to work hard for our two victories so far and are delighted to have secured the series, however we know that we will need to continue to play some good cricket if we want a third win against the West Indies this week.

“James Anderson will miss this Investec Test as we look to manage his workload ahead of a busy period of cricket this summer and beyond, a decision which is in the best interests of the team and James himself.”

England squad – 3rd Investec Test

Andrew Strauss (Middlesex) (Captain)
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Alastair Cook (Essex)
Steven Finn (Middlesex)
Graham Onions (Durham)
Kevin Pietersen (Surrey)
Matt Prior (Sussex)
Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire)
Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire)

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Post by Duty281 Fri 08 Jun 2012, 11:44 am

No play before lunch, great Test Match this!

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 08 Jun 2012, 11:52 am

Tonking down with rain in Brum at the moment, very little chance of play today.

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Post by Stella Fri 08 Jun 2012, 12:02 pm

The weekend looks ok. A two day test.

Good toss to win? I suppose field first and attack like mad.
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Post by JDizzle Fri 08 Jun 2012, 2:15 pm

Confirmation: They'll try again tomorrow. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Duty281 Fri 08 Jun 2012, 3:01 pm

Might as well rest Broad as well and give both Finn and Onions a go as this is only going to be a maximum of a three day test which probably won't get a result.

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Post by DouglasJardinesbox Fri 08 Jun 2012, 4:41 pm

Duty281 wrote:Might as well rest Broad as well and give both Finn and Onions a go as this is only going to be a maximum of a three day test which probably won't get a result.

Dro........rest Bairstow and add Finn & Onions.....bowl them out for 90, and Cook and Co can bat with a thimble and still win it in two days.....

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Jun 2012, 6:08 pm

luckily we have already won the series, but still damn weather!

never mind, try again tomorrow.

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Post by gboycottnut Fri 08 Jun 2012, 6:15 pm

Stella wrote:The weekend looks ok. A two day test.

Good toss to win? I suppose field first and attack like mad.

If it turns into a one-day test, perhaps Strauss and Sammy should do some underhand deals and agree to play a limited overs type of one innings test match in the spirit of the game, like what Hansie Cronje and Nasser Hussain agreed about in the final test match of the 1999 England V SA test series.

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Post by JDizzle Fri 08 Jun 2012, 6:28 pm

DouglasJardinesbox wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Might as well rest Broad as well and give both Finn and Onions a go as this is only going to be a maximum of a three day test which probably won't get a result.

Dro........rest Bairstow and add Finn & Onions.....bowl them out for 90, and Cook and Co can bat with a thimble and still win it in two days.....

Playing 5 bowlers won't help us bowl them out any quicker... Whistle

And surely big Bres has to be dropped/rested/rotated/given time away to work on his handicap, as when this Test inevitably is a draw it will ruin his 100% record!

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Post by DouglasJardinesbox Sat 09 Jun 2012, 8:39 am

If Engalnd are put in to bat first, will they play their normal game, or will they go for quick runs, and try and knock up 400 before getting 10 overs in at the Windies before the close (I'm assuming we'll get the full 98 overs in...).

Can't see Cook or Trott throwing their bat round somehow.....


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Post by GSC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:20 am

Bowl first and see if you can knock them over for under 200 basically.
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Post by LivinginItaly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

With so much time having been lost in this match I think the only way for a result now is if the team batting first is skittled out. Hence I hope WI bat first.


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Post by Duty281 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:31 am

Right win the toss and field. Then bowl the Windies out before lunch for a score of 50 odd. Bat like it's a T20 for the rest of the day and declare at the end of the day with a healthy lead. Bowl the Windies out again inside 2 days. Done and done. Come on England!

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Post by GSC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:36 am

We're bowling first. Broad is now dropped as Onions and Finn play. England viewing this as an opportunity to have a look at some player now I suspect.
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Post by GSC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:36 am

Might see Bairstow bat at 4 or so
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Post by Duty281 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:37 am

Interesting, both Broad and Anderson rested so Onions and Finn get a game. This won't be a draw - Bresnan's in the team!

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Post by GSC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

As I say, England have decided they might as well use whats left of this match to look at some backup players.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:44 am

West Indies batting line up does look very weak. Especially if the ball is nipping around. Hopefully Finn and Onions open the bowling and get a couple of wickets each
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Post by GSC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:45 am

I'm a fan of Onions, thought he played well before he hurt his back.
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Post by DouglasJardinesbox Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:52 am

From what Strauss said, looks like Onions got the nod over Finn (before they decided to rest Broad)....Interesting....

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:58 am

No Chanderpaul, so unless Marlon Samuels somehow manage to extend his new found consistency and if the weather doesn't come in much for the next couple of days at least, England has a fair chance to have another clean sweep to get going in a big summer.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:05 am

Why isn't Finn opening the bowling? Headscratch
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:06 am

very surprised Finn hasn't been given the new ball.

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:06 am

Good first over from Onions. Some movement, decent pace. Good to see him back, after that horrific injury.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:07 am

Pretty sure the West Indies openers wouldn't like facing Finn coming in at 6ft 7in and 90mph
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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:07 am

Tim B can often surprise you, but I thought Steve Finn should have had that new ball.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:09 am

I like Bresnan but he is the first change bowler.
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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:10 am

Nothing special from Bresnan's first over, pretty average with pace, and no serious movement either.

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Post by VTR Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:11 am

Anyone else suffering from low interest levels in this? 2-0 up, not playing our best team, appalling forecast, Euros have started. I'd say my interest levels are about 10% of normal!

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:12 am

This has to be one of the better starts from the WI openers in the series so far. Their partnership is on to double digits, and more importantly, those runs have come through some decent, confident shots, unlike the usual edgy way.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

ball not doing a huge amount yet, hopefully will start to swing in two or three overs.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:14 am

there's some swing Very Happy

horrid attempted srive from Powell though.

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Post by VTR Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:15 am

A couple of reasons for that I reckon msp. No Anderson who has had the openers on toast this series. Also much less pressure given this is an almost certain draw whatever happens, allowing them to play with more freedom.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:17 am

I like Powell more than Barath I think he has potential but those were some of the worst drives I have seen Laugh
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:19 am

Onions and Bresnan have found their rhythm now, Barath and Powell not looking so comfortable anymore.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:21 am

Bell Sad

should really have held onto that...

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:22 am

We are into the 5th over, and the West Indies number 4 or 5 haven't arrived in the middle as yet!!. Not even the number 3 for that matter!.

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:24 am

Nothing much interesting from Bresnan so far, not much seam, and ever since he returned from injury, his pace has never really reached the high 130 mark consistently that had made him a pretty good bowler in Australia and even on the flat roads of the sub-continent earlier.
But Onions has moved the ball both ways at decent pace. That last over was very good.

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:29 am

Onions is generating impressive pace along with the movement, consistently up in the late 130s this over!. Would be interesting to see what Finn can do here.

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:30 am

Now some bounce from Onions!.

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:31 am

Back to back maidens from England here, test of temprament for the WI openers.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:33 am

WI not scoring many at the moment. I've said it before, I feel they don't rotate the strike as much as they should. Onions and Bresnan bowling well but still not much happening off the pitch. Here's Finn Very Happy

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:38 am

and it's another maiden, though Finn doesn't make him play enough. Pace in the mid-80s, he'll be looking to get that up a bit...

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Post by msp83 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

Good pressure this from the England bowlers, West Indies have managed ok so far.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:43 am

England lose their first review. Looked close, but height always going to be an issue and hewkeye duly has it clipping the top of the stumps.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 11:56 am

Finn beats Powell four times outside off in that over. No luck for England so far.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:02 pm

excellent first hour for WI that, Powell and Barath have rode their luck at times but have fought well. Barath in particular has looked pretty solid.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:08 pm

lovely bowling from Finn, so unlucky not to get Barath there. Two short balls force him back, before the fuller one has him stuck on the crease, but Barath's inside edge is just over the stumps and just avoids Prior's dive.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:19 pm

Bresnan strikes! England deserve that. Powell has looked a little loose at times outside off and he nicks one to Swann who just about clings on. With Samuels the only experience in the middle-order due in at 6, can England prise open the hatch?

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