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Saracens have the answer to England's 12 woes.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

Alex Goode.

The man can kick, pass, run and tackle. He has the vision of a 10, the experience at FB. He is a cracking all round rugby player and, imo, a better prospect than Billy 36 (who could do the job and is the more popular option).


Shame Sarries will never play him there.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

Yes! The next in a series of steps to play an entire backline of fullbacks. Rob Miller at 10 next.


This is Tongue in cheek but the OP is a decent suggestion Wink
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Post by Morgannwg Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:09 pm

Watched him for years. Overated and probably not even international quality.
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:11 pm

9 Foden
10 Miller
11 Monye (well he playe FB once)
12 Goode
13 Tait
14 Abendanon
15 Brown

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

Done. It's basically what Australia do anyway
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Post by Zander Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

Well, it would make England very good under the high ball. Whistle

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Post by timhen Sat 09 Jun 2012, 10:22 pm

No.

The best 12's are most certainly playmakers, but they also have to have a physical threat. Goode can run well with the ball, but he's not a go to physical man that an attacking FH needs outside him.

The purely playmaking 12 finally died with the end of Giteau's international career and it's now about a decade out of date.

A kicking game is the least important characteristic in a 12 if you have a decent 10 (how often do you see SBW & Nonu kick?), the rest of the characteristics are just as apparent in a 12 already in the squad, Allen (though he could do with passing it a bit more). Twelvetrees still shows the most promise for a future answer to our problems there though.

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