The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Antananarivo Arms, Madagascar

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Hello and welcome to the Antananarivo Arms Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The Pub has made it's way to Madagascar, where 35,000 raucous fans recently watched the home side upset Namibia in a 110-point thriller.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no tampering with the pictures of the Madagascan team war dance, Japan/NRL-bound Sonny-Bill Williams, Bradley Wiggins and the prematurely-retired Mark Boucher above the bar.





Old Pub: https://www.606v2.com/t32066-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub-oxford

Jumpers for goalposts...

MBTGOG wrote:

Thomond wrote:I don't think it was setup exclusively to do thatMunsty, but it certainly had a massive influence on the Irish people. Helped develop the snese of Irishness that many lacked. The correlation between GAA, IRB and then IRA members is thee for all to see.

"The primary purpose of the G.A.A. is the
organisation of native pastimes and the promotion of athletic
fitness as a means to create a disciplined, self- reliant, nationalminded manhood. The overall result is the expression of a
people’s preference for native ways as opposed to imported ones.
Since she has not control over all the national territory,
Ireland’s claim to nationhood is impaired. It would be still
more impaired if she were to lose her language, if she failed to
provide a decent livelihood for her people at home, or if she
were to forsake her own games and customs in favour of the
games and customs of another nation."

Sounds like The Hitler Youth Program.

Shame about the language then.

Gibson wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:

Gibson wrote:Munsty, I know in Europe it was hard on top athletes to train and work. As you say the Ruling Classes (as in Rugby & football) paid them a pittance in expenses. So, yeah a sportsperson should be paid what they're worth. But not 200 grand a week for Dwayne Rooney to be a scally.

Coporations have fed it and it is totally out of hand now.

Corporations have fed it but they did not start it. If you're really looking for the problems, it's the greed and pride of these people pursuing these large sums of money.

Corporations/Oligarchs own clubs. They want the big money, glory and advertising for their product. They feed the overpaid players by corporate sponsorship. It will happen in rugby too and destroy the game we all love. If you offer a working class lad 100k a week to come to your club, of course he will snap it up. Look at Beckham, an average player who has made countless millions from all this shoite. Unreal.

Tennis players are even worse. Specially de wimmin, who are paid the same as the men, for half the time.

So is it solely the fault of "corporations/oligarchs" or can the players take some of the blame. The corporations have made a lot of money by selling their product for amounts that make them rich. Same with a player who has sold his/her product for an amount that makes them rich.

MBTGOG wrote:

Gibson wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:

Gibson wrote:Munsty, I know in Europe it was hard on top athletes to train and work. As you say the Ruling Classes (as in Rugby & football) paid them a pittance in expenses. So, yeah a sportsperson should be paid what they're worth. But not 200 grand a week for Dwayne Rooney to be a scally.

Coporations have fed it and it is totally out of hand now.

Corporations have fed it but they did not start it. If you're really looking for the problems, it's the greed and pride of these people pursuing these large sums of money.

Corporations/Oligarchs own clubs. They want the big money, glory and advertising for their product. They feed the overpaid players by corporate sponsorship. It will happen in rugby too and destroy the game we all love. If you offer a working class lad 100k a week to come to your club, of course he will snap it up. Look at Beckham, an average player who has made countless millions from all this shoite. Unreal.

Tennis players are even worse. Specially de wimmin, who are paid the same as the men, for half the time.

So is it solely the fault of "corporations/oligarchs" or can the players take some of the blame.

Yes to both. At differing levels.

The corporations have made a lot of money by selling their product for amounts that make them rich. Same with a player who has sold his/her product for an amount that makes them rich.

That's what Im saying. And we pay for it. Just thought Id throw that one in.

MBTGOG wrote:
First of all, no need to call my comments naive. I haven't exactly just made them up on the spot or not studied them (considering I do this as part of my university studies). Hard training isn't pushing your body past what it is capable of at all.

Also, what might be making this discussion a little harder, is I am making reference to teenagers who are still growing taking these substances which is what the documentary and Thomond were referring to and that is what is dangerous.

If you are so enlightened on this then perhaps you can elaborate on your initial point.

In what way do you equate dietary suppliments with performance enhancing drugs and how exactly do the former allow you to push your body past what it is capable off?

Can you give specific examples rather than vague rhetoric?

New Pub: https://www.606v2.com/t32740-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub-bridgend#1406233