Would Young be the greatest shock ever?

Three wins all year, one since February, Donald Young takes on Federer in the 1st round tomorrow.

Anyone think of a bigger shock result thy can recall that would beat a Young victory?

Djokovic losing in the first round. He is the defending champion.

PS: Hewitt v Karlovic W 2003 is the one I can recall the quickest.

Thinking real past ones vs Young (with his hideous year) v Federer.

Yes, Hewitt / Dr Ivo is a candidate. Then again Karlovic had a weapon, and was he 3/21 for the year?

Still, Young has been a player. 2012 is astonishing for him really.

“I think I felt good last year, but probably felt that maybe at times the matches were not always in my racquet, whereas maybe this time around I feel like if I'm playing well I can dictate who's going to win or lose,” he said. “It's going to take something special from my opponent to win. That's kind of how it feels right now; then again, I might walk away from Monday and lost the first round. You have to always be very careful how you say it and how you then play.”

He is confident, but yet not cocky. I think he will work himself into battle readiness.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/08/34/US-Open-Preview-Federer-Shaken-To-Self-Assured.aspx

Young is lefty. We will know in the next 24 hours.

bogbrush wrote:Yes, Hewitt / Dr Ivo is a candidate. Then again Karlovic had a weapon, and was he 3/21 for the year?

9/7 not 3/21 though - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Ivo-Karlovic.aspx?t=pa&y=2003&m=s&e=0#

Reckon if Falla had beaten Fed at Wimbledon in 2010 - and he nearly did - it would have been one of the biggest shocks ever.
These surprise results - such as Rosol at Wimbledon - seem somehow more shocking simply cos the the leading players so rarely go out early in the big tourneys.
Hingis and Graf both went out in the opening round at Wimbledon and years back there was the Charlie Pasarrel (spelling) defeat of defending Wimbledon champion Manuel Santana in the first round at SW19 in 1967.

to be fair, Rosol beating Nadal is probably up there. Obviously Karlovic vs Hewitt springs to mind, but less so IMO. Can't think of many others right now.

In a different vein, Ivanisevic winning Wimbledon was pretty surprising.

1990 was bad year for Edberg, losing out to Bruguera in R1, RG ranked 2.
and losing out to Volkov in USO ranked 1.

If Young wins it will be up there with Bastl beating Sampras, and Rosol and Soderling beating Nadal (those are the big three of modern times in my opinion).

Don't think a Young win would stand alone though, he's been up to no 38 in the rankings and the US Open 4th round, achieving far more than Bastl ever did in that sense (or Rosol).

Young has already managed a surprise win against Murray in his career as well.

Interesting to consider the Soderling win over Rafa at the French in 09. Soderling, in form and dusting the lines, was/is a real handful for anyone. He demonstrated that his win over Rafa was no fluke by dumping Fed out at the French a year later.
Spose the fact that Rafa had never lost at the French made the Soderling defeat a big shock and Rafa's had a perfect RG record since. But Rafa missed Wimbledon after this and there's always been speculation as to how fit he was going into the French in 09. Difficult to categorise this one.

I can't put Soderling v Nadal in there. The guy was a top player at the time. Yes it was a big surprise but the man could play, and had the power to hit though anyone.

Unless Federer plays left-handed with a DHBH, Young may get only a few games in the match, perhaps 6.

Soderling was a better player (journeyman 20 or 30 rank then) than Rosol and Bastl and Young for sure, but it's worth noting that in his famous R4 victory against Rafa, that was the first time he had reached R4 at any slam, let alone won it. And Rafa was at the peak of his powers, mid career, never lost a match at FO, never even been taken to a 5th set before I believe. Also, pre tournament Rafa at FO 2009 was the biggest bookies favourite I've ever seen, around 70-80% chance to win before tournament even started. So it was a stellar shock deserving to be up there with the others.

Unlike Young vs Federer where Federer is at the end of his career, not in the middle, so you expect some kind of shock result sooner or later.

http://www.mytennislounge.com/comments/index.php?shell=5136

Here is an article I did on another forum.

And no moderating thank you Laver Fan for mentioning another forum and providing a link, as I've seen you mentioning V2 over there, so it must be OK!

It will be occassional! Actually I prefer V2 at the moment..

Bastl/Sampras is a big one, Doohan/Becker another.

Henman Bill wrote:And no moderating thank you Laver Fan for mentioning another forum and providing a link, as I've seen you mentioning V2 over there, so it must be OK!

I usually do not object. BTW, I do not cross post links, but sometimes will mention if I post similar articles on more than one forum. . I do like this specific article.

lydian wrote:Bastl/Sampras is a big one, Doohan/Becker another.

I find this interesting...

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Mu/T/Thomas-Muster.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=540#

He still has a ranking?

Well underdog fans were left disappointed as Federer won in straight sets.

Young actually got more games than some might have predicted and did manage to break serve.

laverfan wrote:
I find this interesting...

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Mu/T/Thomas-Muster.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=540#

Aye - it's stats like that which no doubt the ATP don't want to see ever again, which is why those of us who want to see the difference between surfaces re-asserting itself are probably destined for disappointment.

barrystar wrote:

laverfan wrote:
I find this interesting...

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Mu/T/Thomas-Muster.aspx?t=pa&y=0&m=s&e=540#

Aye - it's stats like that which no doubt the ATP don't want to see ever again, which is why those of us who want to see the difference between surfaces re-asserting itself are probably destined for disappointment.

decent point. Must be noted that Muster was one of the worst grass court players around so maybe these weren't so shocking. The uniformisation (I prefer to use this rather than "slowing down") of surfaces means that they aren't any specialists anymore (with the possible exception of Almagro, but even he's had some decent hard court results), and you see guys like Djokovic playing the exact same style (and winning) on all surfaces, depressing

Potito Starace? There are more "specialists" in the women's game than the men's.

Ferrer is pretty decent on HC (TMC) and Clay, and is pretty handy on Grass (just ask Murray).

sirfredperry wrote:Young actually got more games than some might have predicted and did manage to break serve.

My bad, SFP. If Federer was not approaching BPs as some exho Tennis, he would have been closer to my prediction.

Just watched some highlights of the Fed-Young match. Young looked to be playing OK and looping in big top spin left-handed shots (remind you of someone?).
He certainly didn't look like a guy with a train wreck of a season behind him.

sirfredperry wrote:Young looked to be playing OK and looping in big top spin left-handed shots (remind you of someone?).

To be able to hit 4800+ rpm topspins to Federer's BH requires very special and unique skills. Young must have a specific collection of 28 matches to choose from.