Tennis and MBTI types
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Tennis and MBTI types
Anyone know much about MBTIs? (16 personality types)
Was wondering what the top players might be...Federer is just SO an ENTJ for example.
ENTJ - some traits:
- can be self centered, arrogant or even narcissistic (ENTJs are smart and they want everyone to know it. They like themselves, sometimes too much)
- can be opinionated or stubborn (might believe they're always right)
- may set the bar too high for others
- very critical about incompetency and inefficiency
- don't give compliments easily
- greatest work environment satisfiers, use opportunities to use talents and contribute to learning and accomplishment.
- 1 of 2 (out of 16) types most satisfied with their work, where they work, and future work opportunities, unlikely to leave job, and among those with the highest income.
- along with ESTJs, they have the 2nd highest mean level of coping resources (handling pressure).
- ranked 1st of all 16 types in using physical coping resources
- highest in coping with stress by "Trying to think of options"
Not expecting huge discussion on this as its a more specialised sphere of knowledge...but an interesting one if you know/work with these things.
Was wondering what the top players might be...Federer is just SO an ENTJ for example.
ENTJ - some traits:
- can be self centered, arrogant or even narcissistic (ENTJs are smart and they want everyone to know it. They like themselves, sometimes too much)
- can be opinionated or stubborn (might believe they're always right)
- may set the bar too high for others
- very critical about incompetency and inefficiency
- don't give compliments easily
- greatest work environment satisfiers, use opportunities to use talents and contribute to learning and accomplishment.
- 1 of 2 (out of 16) types most satisfied with their work, where they work, and future work opportunities, unlikely to leave job, and among those with the highest income.
- along with ESTJs, they have the 2nd highest mean level of coping resources (handling pressure).
- ranked 1st of all 16 types in using physical coping resources
- highest in coping with stress by "Trying to think of options"
Not expecting huge discussion on this as its a more specialised sphere of knowledge...but an interesting one if you know/work with these things.
lydian- Posts : 9178
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
Wow...apparently Fed is an ESTJ...its Djokovic who is the ENTJ.
Now I'm confused...
Now I'm confused...
lydian- Posts : 9178
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
Don't you have to do the questionnaire for the results to be analyzed, not just categorize on the basis of observable behaviour?
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
This is interesting. Thanks Lydian.
How did you find out their specific personality types?
Can you send a link for the different types?
How did you find out their specific personality types?
Can you send a link for the different types?
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
http://www.personalitypage.com/high-level.html
There you go ep... Im even more confused than I was before
There you go ep... Im even more confused than I was before
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
This kind of analysis seems to me more suitable for ordinary accountancy and consultancy workers, rather than for tennis superstars.
Are you a consultant Lydian?
Are you a consultant Lydian?
Jeremy_Kyle- Posts : 1536
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
There are observable traits which when put together suggest a personality type. As you say without getting them to complete a 80 question assessment and see the results you cant definitively say but others who know these tests inside out have made assessments of which of the 16 MBTI types they may be. The first one is relatively easy...E or I...extrovert or introvert. So guys like Federer or Djokivic are easy to assess there...Nadal might be harder to split.
I'll dig further and see what's around...its big stuff in the US, they love metrics on everything, including personalities. I've been known to dabble JK.
I'll dig further and see what's around...its big stuff in the US, they love metrics on everything, including personalities. I've been known to dabble JK.
lydian- Posts : 9178
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Re: Tennis and MBTI types
I've just noticed this! Had experience with assessing psychometric reports including Myers Briggs.
The thing is that you can't possibly know until you examine the scoring on the tests very closely. For instance someone might be an E (extrovert) but only just with a score of 20 E and 17 I which would mean that they are introverted (happy to agree a compromise or follow or simply march to their own drum beat) in nearly as many situations as they might wish to be taking the lead in other situations and you can't possibly know that from reading they are a 'type'. To identify applicants best suited for a job you need to take into account all the variables. I wouldn't be surprised to see that both players you mention lydian also show an introvert side - it is often seen in performers and individual sportsmen and signifies not, as popularly supposed, that they aren't gregarious but that they are able to work on their own without needing loads of people as stimulus - I'm thinking all those years of practice more than performing you understand. A strong extrovert is usually someone who is only happy working in a very hectic environment - a strong extrovert makes the best type of city trader for example, they can concentrate and operate while all hell breaks loose around them. A computer analyst is much more likely to score highly in the I department showing they are happy working on their own, without needing collaboration from a team, and someone showing strongly in the Is favours a calm and quiet working environment otherwise they are unable to bring their best work - I reiterate it doesn't mean they are Billy No Mates!
The J at the end signifies judging rather than feeling. But this alludes to someone having a very rational and ordered outlook not that they are judgemental. They assess a situation using logic and what they already know unlike a strong F who will respond emotionally and often brush away a Js objections to a proposed action saying that they lack spontaneity or vision while the J will think that the F is heading for potential disaster, blindly ignoring all the pitfalls. In a creative process, it is good to have a mix of Fs and Js, providing they can learn to speak to each other Someone with a strong J showing is highly organised - not surprised that both Fed and Djokovic are Js rather than Fs. Fs tend to react emotionally and impulsively rather than logically. Possibly Gulbis is an F, which is why he is a disaster in the mental department! But again someone could be a strong J with a low scoring in F or it could be more evenly balanced. It is an extremely rare person who would ever score totally in one department, and I'm talking one in a million - and no, it is not possible to cheat!
It's a long time since I worked with this type of pyschometric analysis and I can't remember what the other letters signify atm, perhaps head clearer tomorrow.
Seriously though it's not meant to be used like a Cosmo quiz - it is best when it is used for training purposes to help people to realise their potential. They are no right types, just wrong professions for a type In other words, it is great to use for career counselling as well to help someone make the best career decision for them - the job that will bring them the most satisfaction.
This was developed for marriage counselling to help people understand how people can misunderstand us, how we can misunderstand others.
It is a very useful tool at understanding ourselves, how we can work on our weaknesses, how to work better with others.
The thing is that you can't possibly know until you examine the scoring on the tests very closely. For instance someone might be an E (extrovert) but only just with a score of 20 E and 17 I which would mean that they are introverted (happy to agree a compromise or follow or simply march to their own drum beat) in nearly as many situations as they might wish to be taking the lead in other situations and you can't possibly know that from reading they are a 'type'. To identify applicants best suited for a job you need to take into account all the variables. I wouldn't be surprised to see that both players you mention lydian also show an introvert side - it is often seen in performers and individual sportsmen and signifies not, as popularly supposed, that they aren't gregarious but that they are able to work on their own without needing loads of people as stimulus - I'm thinking all those years of practice more than performing you understand. A strong extrovert is usually someone who is only happy working in a very hectic environment - a strong extrovert makes the best type of city trader for example, they can concentrate and operate while all hell breaks loose around them. A computer analyst is much more likely to score highly in the I department showing they are happy working on their own, without needing collaboration from a team, and someone showing strongly in the Is favours a calm and quiet working environment otherwise they are unable to bring their best work - I reiterate it doesn't mean they are Billy No Mates!
The J at the end signifies judging rather than feeling. But this alludes to someone having a very rational and ordered outlook not that they are judgemental. They assess a situation using logic and what they already know unlike a strong F who will respond emotionally and often brush away a Js objections to a proposed action saying that they lack spontaneity or vision while the J will think that the F is heading for potential disaster, blindly ignoring all the pitfalls. In a creative process, it is good to have a mix of Fs and Js, providing they can learn to speak to each other Someone with a strong J showing is highly organised - not surprised that both Fed and Djokovic are Js rather than Fs. Fs tend to react emotionally and impulsively rather than logically. Possibly Gulbis is an F, which is why he is a disaster in the mental department! But again someone could be a strong J with a low scoring in F or it could be more evenly balanced. It is an extremely rare person who would ever score totally in one department, and I'm talking one in a million - and no, it is not possible to cheat!
It's a long time since I worked with this type of pyschometric analysis and I can't remember what the other letters signify atm, perhaps head clearer tomorrow.
Seriously though it's not meant to be used like a Cosmo quiz - it is best when it is used for training purposes to help people to realise their potential. They are no right types, just wrong professions for a type In other words, it is great to use for career counselling as well to help someone make the best career decision for them - the job that will bring them the most satisfaction.
This was developed for marriage counselling to help people understand how people can misunderstand us, how we can misunderstand others.
It is a very useful tool at understanding ourselves, how we can work on our weaknesses, how to work better with others.
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