London Irish - Caretaker Manager Page

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 22 Jan 2013, 10:12 am

alance - £2.5 Million

Honours

Aviva Premiership Winner 2008/2009
LV Cup Champions 2010/2011

Squad

Jean-Baptiste Poux (LH/TH) [FRA]
Matt Stevens (TH/LH) [ENG]
Grant Shiells (LH) [SCO]

Adam Jones (TH) [WAL]
WP Nel (TH) [RSA]
Brok Harris (TH) [RSA]

Andrew Hore (HK) [NZL]
Hika Elliott (HK) [NZL]
Tom Lindsay (HK) [ENG]

Dean Mumm (LK/BS) [AUS]
Nick Kennedy (LK) [ENG]
Stuart Hooper (LK) [ENG]
Matt Garvey (LK) [ENG]
Johann Muller (LK) [RSA]

Jerome Kaino (BS) [NZL]
Yannick Nyanga (BS) [FRA]

Ross Rennie (OS) [SCO]
Will Fraser (OS) [ENG]

Pierre Spies (N8) [RSA]
Netani Talei (N8) [FIJ]

Niel De Kock (SH) [RSA]
Julien Dupuy (SH) [FRA]
Ruan Pienaar (SH) [RSA]

Shane Geraghty (FH/CE) [ENG]
Lionel Beauxis (FH) [NZL]
Nick Evans (FH) [NZL]

Luke McAllister (IC/FH) [NZL]
Sereli Naqalevuki (IC/OC) [FIJ]

Conrad Smith (OC) [NZL]
Mas Bastereaud (OC) [NZL]
Max Evans (OC/WG) [SCO]
Henry Trinder (OC) [ENG]

Sailosi Tagicakibau (WG/IC) [SAM]
JP Pieterson (WG/OC) [RSA]
Bjorn Basson (WG) [RSA]

Delon Armitage (FB/WG) [ENG]
Tom Homer (FB/WG) [ENG]
Zane Kirchner (FB) [RSA]

Academy Players

M. Anderson (HK) [ENG]
Gerard Ellis (HK/OS) [WAL]
Kieren Low (LK) [ENG]
Marcel Coetzee (BS) [RSA]
David Sisi (N8) [ENG]
Alex Grey (N8) [ENG]
Jordan Taufua (N8) [NZL]
Jack Moates (SH) [ENG]
Matthew Morgan (FH) [ENG]
Marlande Yarde (WG) [ENG]
Guy Armitage (WG) [ENG]

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 10:22 am

What for Evans?

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 11:13 am

Sorry mate Cruden top 3 in his position for me so a deal is hard with Nev not playing international rugby.

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 11:19 am

No worries it's the substancial gain part which is really putting me off.

by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:08 pm

For me cruden not even top 10 in world. Unproven internationally and not shown any idea of how to play in rain. What for Fraser Pete. Have a look and let me know

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:14 pm

Player bashing Matthew? Suppose the only guy ahead of him at the moment is Dan Carter.

by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:25 pm

Never been a fan. Loose defence and goes to pieces in wet. Not had a decent game for the ab's playing behind dominant all blacks team

Would have above him in no order

Carter
Nick Evans
Sexton
Morne steyn
Berrick Barnes
Quade cooper
Beale
Goosen
FTD on his day
Farrell( has delivered at int level)
Wilkinson

Maybe a few others. For me massively unproven. He is a phenomenal kicker at posts and has a box of tricks. Just needs to show he can tackle and play at next level

Needs to prove himself outside of

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:31 pm

Un proven at international is bull Matt , He started the RWC final!

Him and SBW where the main reasons Chiefs won super rugby and i'v seen nothing to say his defense is off.

by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

Due to slade and carter being injured.

Donald won the WC for them what does that mean?

Super 15 is way different to top level rugby and its defences. Cruden poor in defence but having sbw helps. Seen him get ran through plenty.

My point is he has been very average at int level despite playing in a dominant side.

All the others above have proven themselves at int level. I have the same feelings about flood and his ability at international.

Both are great club players but unproven at int level somewhat although flood has had a few brilliant games at int level.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:37 pm

anonmattyt wrote:For me cruden not even top 10 in world. Unproven internationally and not shown any idea of how to play in rain. What for Fraser Pete. Have a look and let me know

Cruden only behind Carter, no discussion really.

Where's the rain thing from? He was fantastic for Chiefs in all conditions and took Ireland apart (I think was raining??)

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:38 pm

He started the RWC Final as a result of injuries. Donald's kick at goal won the RWC Final, but it doesn't make him an international world beater.

Don't get me wrong, I rate Cruden. On the front foot, he is a fantastic player, but if you're asking me who I want at 10 in an English winter, there are a fair few players that I would select ahead of him.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:41 pm

I think he's magic.

Carter is the best, possibly ever and showing no signs of falling off but Cruden isn't too far off him. Possibly even better in attack currently.

Bloody AB's!

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:47 pm

Sneakily got Goosen in that list I see Mat... Whats he done internationally?

Rate Cruden but hes a fair way behind Carter, Sexton, Evans for me. I'd rate him on a par with Farrell, FTD, Barnes, Beale, Cooper but as Pete said he needs to be played in the right conditions

by dammit_chris Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:50 pm

Hernandez, Phillips, Cipriani and Tait for

Evans, Pienar and Sereli Naqalevuki?

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

Great point about Goosen , he's never done much at Super rugby either.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

Goosen above Cruden??? That's not serious surely??

Carter
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Cruden
Sexton
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The rest can fight it out

by dammit_chris Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:56 pm

Cipriani and Tait Very Happy

by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

Goosen has had an effect on the few internationals he has played was my point SJE apart from that agree cruden maybe is equal to the others on the list but certainly not better.

On a dry day with someone to do his defending like SBW and front football then yes he can play but needs to prove it at int level.

In English conditions I would take many ahead of him.

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

Why i'm here what for Matt Garvey?

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 22 Jan 2013, 1:58 pm

NZ isn't too different too England, his defence is no worse than anyone else on that list.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:05 pm

His defence aint as bad as Coopers but he aint anywhere as good as Carter/Sexton who would be behind Farrell/Wilko defensively for me.

Cruden had a much bigger effect on the Ireland game then anything Goosen has had. Some majestic rugby that day. He ruined Ireland while he was on the field

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:10 pm

Here is what I am looking to bring in for Irish transfer wise.

Hooker
Blindside (available through 6 Nations)
EQ Centre
EQ Winger

All players can go as everyone has a price, and for the EQ players I will release from the areas where Irish have more than 1 EQ player who could start, so lock, openside and full back.

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:12 pm

Lee Mears interest you?

by Driver Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:22 pm

Tom Croft + Colin Slade

for

Matt Garvey + Nick Evans

by dammit_chris Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:50 pm

Damn.

Really keen on Evans - anything around Webber, Hernandez, Tait in a deal (think you mentioned hooker, and Tait can cover 13, both wings and fb).

by LukeLovesLuka Tue 22 Jan 2013, 2:59 pm

Wilko + Hines
For
Evans + Garvey

by DHLS07 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 3:35 pm

I'm keen on Johann Muller, Steffon Armitage, Keegan Daniel, Ruan Pienaar, JP Pietersen and Delon Armitage.

Most of my squad are available for transfer, the only players not available are Matt Mullan, Jannie du Plessis, Flip van der Merwe, Louis Deacon, Joe van Niekerk, Ma'a Nonu and Jean de Villiers.

by prop_lyd Tue 22 Jan 2013, 3:48 pm

Keen on Kennedy, Garvey, Muller,Yarde and D.Armitage

by dammit_chris Tue 22 Jan 2013, 3:51 pm

Any names in mind, as not sure what positions you see as world class there.

Can't really lose centres as have only got 4 now.

Could potentially do Asthon, Phillips and Hernandez for Pienarr and Evans?

by DHLS07 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:16 pm

Hika Elliott and Henry Trinder for Steffon Armitage.

Rob Simmons for Johann Muller.

Ross Rennie for Keegan Daniel.

Phil Dowson and Rory Lamont for Delon Armitage.

Mark Cueto for JP Pietersen.

Any deals there?

by LukeLovesLuka Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:51 pm

Wilko + Hines + Waldouck + Ranger
For
Evans + Garvey + Naqa + Yarde?

by prop_lyd Tue 22 Jan 2013, 8:47 pm

Would be happy to let Jones and Charteris go

by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2013, 9:29 pm

Fasivalu for Coetzee

by DHLS07 Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:19 pm

I'm happy with that deal. I'll put it on the confirmation page.

by prop_lyd Wed 23 Jan 2013, 5:24 pm

Be keen on Kennedy/Muller for Charteris as a starter for the deal?

by Fluxy Wed 23 Jan 2013, 6:09 pm

Will Fraser and Matt Garvey interest me, along with a slight interest in Homer

by Fluxy Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:24 am

Would this help as a starter;

Basteraud + Fraser + Garvey
=
Varndell + Dennis + Manoa

I know it a little unbalanced on EQ, couldn't quite think who else to offer! Would have some interest in Delon as well

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:26 am

What would it take to get Delon mate??

by Fluxy Tue 05 Feb 2013, 1:28 pm

What for Garvey and Fraser mate?

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