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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:12 am

Crazy. The amount of people saying a high and dangerous studs up challenge catching Arbeloa in the mid-section wasn't a red card picard

I see Nani's foul as equal to someone with eyes on the ball trying to win a header and elbowing the opponent accidentally. Still given as a red card by most. It was reckless to not notice someone else going for the ball and trying to win it like that.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:15 am

Marky wrote:Crazy. The amount of people saying a high and dangerous studs up challenge catching Arbeloa in the mid-section wasn't a red card picard

I see Nani's foul as equal to someone with eyes on the ball trying to win a header and elbowing the opponent accidentally. Still given as a red card by most. It was reckless to not notice someone else going for the ball and trying to win it like that.

So a player is actually not allowed to try and control a ball out of the air for the fear of somebody coming in out of sight when they only have eyes on the ball? #headsgone
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:22 am

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Marky wrote:Crazy. The amount of people saying a high and dangerous studs up challenge catching Arbeloa in the mid-section wasn't a red card picard

I see Nani's foul as equal to someone with eyes on the ball trying to win a header and elbowing the opponent accidentally. Still given as a red card by most. It was reckless to not notice someone else going for the ball and trying to win it like that.

So a player is actually not allowed to try and control a ball out of the air for the fear of somebody coming in out of sight when they only have eyes on the ball? #headsgone

There are other ways to control a ball out of the air than by having your foot 5 ft in the air... But its the risk you take. If no-one's there no-one cares, but Arbeloa being there made Nani's actions reckless.

For the record I'd have only booked Nani, but that's because the ref last night didn't apply any common sense, but by the letter of the law Nani was right to go for committing Serious Foul Play.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:26 am

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Marky wrote:Crazy. The amount of people saying a high and dangerous studs up challenge catching Arbeloa in the mid-section wasn't a red card picard

I see Nani's foul as equal to someone with eyes on the ball trying to win a header and elbowing the opponent accidentally. Still given as a red card by most. It was reckless to not notice someone else going for the ball and trying to win it like that.

So a player is actually not allowed to try and control a ball out of the air for the fear of somebody coming in out of sight when they only have eyes on the ball? #headsgone

There are other ways to control a ball out of the air than by having your foot 5 ft in the air... But its the risk you take. If no-one's there no-one cares, but Arbeloa being there made Nani's actions reckless.

For the record I'd have only booked Nani, but that's because the ref last night didn't apply any common sense, but by the letter of the law Nani was right to go for committing Serious Foul Play.

It's something that happens ridiculously often in football, and you never ever see a red card for it. One of those rules that are never applied because usually common sense prevails, unfortunately in this case it didn't and it has spoiled a potentially riveting last 30 minutes of Champions League football.

United were the better side Nadz, Mourinho even said so himself.

How the completely useless 5th official missed Rafael's handball on the line I'll never know. Most pointless person in football, I've never actually seen them make a decision?! Look at the corner that lead to Arsenal's goal against Bayern as an example of how pathetically inept they are
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:27 am

Ask yourself, what was the worse decision?

Giving an iffy red for a high foot

or

Letting somebody handball a shot on the line?
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:29 am

And ultimately, intimidation of officials through the media and other mediums has been a Ferguson tactic for years. Can't think of a club I'd have less sympathy for if an iffy decision goes against them.

Their reaction post match was nothing short of disgraceful. Rio and SAF acted like 10 year olds in particular.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:31 am

I'm just disappointed that we're sitting here talking about a completely inept refereeing display, instead of what should have been the best most high profile match of the season.

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:33 am

No you're not. You love every chance you get to put the boot into European refs and UEFA.

As for the ref attention, thank the BBC and ITV for that, whose combined party line was controversy and everyone is out to screw the English as always
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:34 am

GSC wrote:Ask yourself, what was the worse decision?

Giving an iffy red for a high foot

or

Letting somebody handball a shot on the line?

Or Ferguson picking Nani over Rooney Whistle

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:35 am

Yeah thats slipped under the radar haha.

As did Rafaels handball incidentally. Did that even get a second replay laugh out loud
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Post by Bull Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:36 am

or picking Nani at all

let him leave laugh out loud

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:36 am

GSC wrote:No you're not. You love every chance you get to put the boot into European refs and UEFA.

Sorry, I'm obviously really happy that we're talking about a ref's performance rather than a great game of football #headsgone
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:36 am

By the same laws, if Nani goes, so should Diego Lopez for his two fisted punch to Vidic's head. Penalty as well, but that's never spotted/given.

The ref was undoubtedly poor, but it doesn't mean Nani wasn't reckless. As Roy Keane argued, does he think he's got nobody within 20 yards of him?

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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:38 am

And what a goal by Modric by the way, that was going wide when it left his boot!

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:38 am

Btw, I love how Ferguson is too 'distraught' to talk to the media.

Was he too distraught to talk to the bbc after they revealed his son was a crook?
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Post by Bull Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:39 am

either way the thing is why did Welbeck even start guy is crap wasted like 5 chances that should of gone in.

Nani meh tbh if it was a red then so be it no need to moan about it just let him leave laugh out loud

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:40 am

GSC wrote:Yeah thats slipped under the radar haha.

As did Rafaels handball incidentally. Did that even get a second replay laugh out loud

Higuain's goal that was disallowed
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:40 am

Marky wrote:And what a goal by Modric by the way, that was going wide when it left his boot!

Aye was a fantastic goal. The 2nd as well, the flick was superb.

Tbh Madrid probably shouldve gone for more, United were there for the taking, then Mourinho took off Ozil for Pepe and they sat back.

Mourinho clearly on his best behaviour to try and win the United job.
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:42 am

I still maintain that the ref had no choice - Nani was utterly stupid, he went chest high with a straight leg, studs out, saw the guy was coming, and if he lost the ball, he was always going to walk.

At that stage of the game, it was the most stupid tackle I've possibly ever seen. Nani deserves to rot in United under 4s team for the rest of his career, he has single-handedly cost United the game with his stupidity.

I also hope that Rio Ferdinand gets a huge fine / suspension for his unprofessional treatment of the referee at the final whistle. The guy is meant to be a role model and a former England captain - it says something about the state of the modern game when idiots like him can rise to such lofty stations. The guy is an embarrassment to us all.

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:43 am

I suspect Ferguson didn't talk to the media because he knows he can't walk all over UEFA, unlike the FA who at most throw a fine.
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Post by Bull Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:44 am

why would you start Nani though when you have Kagawa who just scored 3 at the weekend or Valancia/Young who are better

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:45 am

Because once in a while Nani actually does something special.

Nevermind its like once every 2 seasons.

Also Young is crap and Valencia is pretty one dimensional.
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:46 am

Rio was a total arse, its one thing when the players are surrounding the ref and arguing their point, but to be sarcastically clapping right in his face, shows what a moronic, childish thug he actually is.

This isn't biased, I actually wanted United to win but seems I can't have an opinion without Man U fans telling me I'm wrong on my Facebook status (Hero, I'm looking in your direction Wink )

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:48 am

In other news, Forest went up to 7th!

Also I'm 21 today Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:49 am

Marky wrote:Rio was a total arse, its one thing when the players are surrounding the ref and arguing their point, but to be sarcastically clapping right in his face, shows what a moronic, childish thug he actually is.

This isn't biased, I actually wanted United to win but seems I can't have an opinion without Man U fans telling me I'm wrong on my Facebook status (Hero, I'm looking in your direction Wink )

I wanted Utd to win too. Anyways our English hopes rest on Arsenal somehow scoring at least 3 in Germany tonight, and that's without conceding! #nochance
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:50 am

GSC wrote:In other news, Forest went up to 7th!

Also I'm 21 today Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474

Happy Birthday Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474

And well done on beating the scum! Although down to 9 men it's not that much of an achievement haha
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:51 am

Yeah we were crap.

Not as a crap as Brighton however who didnt muster a shot at Bristol City and had 34% possession
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:52 am

GSC wrote:In other news, Forest went up to 7th!

Also I'm 21 today Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474

Many happy returns. I hope you're going to lose the Joey Barton-esque moustache your Twitter pic suggests you have Wink

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:53 am

Lost it and regrew it Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:55 am

Also helos that Boro managed to concede 2 in the last 5 minutes to lose 2-1.

Saw Crawley drew.
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:56 am

Just hoping we get out of this division before Sheffield United get back in.
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Post by cherriesfna Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:57 am

laugh out loud evryone at th top lost, donny got dominated so wil come at us with low morale and we will get our season back on track, UTCIAD
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Post by cherriesfna Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:57 am

why is l-o-l now laugh out loud
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:59 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/afc-bournemouth

Bournemouth 0-1 Sheffield Utd

Arter '100% certain' of promotion

Bournemouth 0-2 Coventry

Francis retains promotion belief

Leyton Orient 3-1 Bournemouth

Bournemouth can go up - Williams

This sequence of headlines is funny to me
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Post by sodhat Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:04 am

TheBrahmaBull wrote:either way the thing is why did Welbeck even start guy is crap wasted like 5 chances that should of gone in.

Nani meh tbh if it was a red then so be it no need to moan about it just let him leave laugh out loud

Welbeck played really rather well I thought. You know you aren't getting a great finisher with him but everything else he did from sticking to Xabi Alonso, to relieving pressure with hold up play, to stretching the defence, was top class.

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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:07 am

GSC wrote:Saw Crawley drew.

We've reached the 50 point target and still have 12 games to go. Anything else is a bonus Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:10 am

Faiz ‏@Offical_Nothing
@nick_fury85 @RefereeCuneyt Cheating Bar Steward, I will find you and kick you in the chest and I'll give myself a yellow card. I hate you!

Best tweet ever Laugh
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Post by sodhat Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:14 am

Viva really lost it last night, huh Laugh

I see a lot of sweary angry tweets, even has a go at Keane

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Post by sodhat Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:19 am

Must say, Mourinho positioned himself nicely to take over at Man Utd though.

Very complimentary. Aside from respect for Fergie I'm certain he probably wants to make a good impression to United.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:23 am

For tactics is there any rules with like U21's/Germans?

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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:25 am

2 Germans on the pitch at all times

U21 applies for cup
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Post by Marky Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:25 am

I'm gonna have a look at the odds on Fergie retiring end of this season. Too "distraught" to speak to the media last night, could wrap up the title then call it quits...

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Post by Gregers Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:34 am

Happy birthday gsc

Brighton were shocking last night, it was a red and rio is a waste of oxygen

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Post by sodhat Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:41 am

GSC wrote:In other news, Forest went up to 7th!

Also I'm 21 today Euro Division Homepage LI - Page 9 3559488474

Happy birthday

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Post by cherriesfna Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:43 am

happy birthday Smile cake
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:45 am

Cheers

RVP seems out of touch, 1 in 8 now isn't it? Had some good chances last night
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:49 am

Didn't look 100% on Saturday either GSC.

Still im sure he'll pull through
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Post by GSC Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:53 am

Spoiler:
"You told me Webb was going to ref this game"
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