Simple six nations assessment

by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Mar 2013, 6:48 pm

Sum up the teams this year in either one word or a few words.

England: Better than 2012
Wales: Not as good as 2012
Scotland: Always the same
Ireland: Awful
Italy: Awful
France: Even worse.

Overall the quality has been diabolical with exception to England.

by Brendan Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:01 pm

I wouldn't agree with Italy
They have been more competitive even if the score hasn't.

Also Ireland are better then last year as the were poor last year. This year they are no worse

by sickofwendy Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:20 pm

Eng-yes
Wales-true
Sco -improving
Ire-ravaged
Fra -odd
Italy-trying

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:27 pm

Scotland have regressed into the sort of team they used to be

France..not even inconsistent anymore

Wales...little brother

by Cyril Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:32 pm

England expects
Wales wails
Scotland scotched
Ireland injured
Italy insipid
France flops

by Taffineastbourne Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:34 pm

YAWN!

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:39 pm

England - not as good as they need to be
Wales - not as good as they used to be
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be
France - merde

by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:40 pm

LondonTiger wrote:England - not as good as they need to be
Wales - not as good as they used to be
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be
France - merde

I'm officially keeping this comment for next seasons tournament, then the year after, and after...

by mystiroakey Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:43 pm

LondonTiger wrote:England - not as good as they need to be
Wales - not as good as they used to be
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be
France - merde

how to you come to that conclusion?

good enough (so far)would be fairer

they only NEED to win games

by mankiaow Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:46 pm

Ireland - not as good as they think they are
The rest - same same
France - not as good as everyone thinks they are

by Barney McGrew did it Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:47 pm

LondonTiger wrote:England - ~~not~~ as good as they need to be (a GS's a GS after all)
Wales - ~~not~~ never been as good as they used to be in the 70's
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be they were as good as I thought they'd be tho
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be what can you do in that weather
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be hey, they beat France, that's a top 6N for them
France - merde sacre bleu

Referees - mince

by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:49 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:England - ~~not~~ as good as they need to be (a GS's a GS after all)
Wales - ~~not~~ never been as good as they used to be in the 70's
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be they were as good as I thought they'd be tho
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be what can you do in that weather
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be hey, they beat France, that's a top 6N for them
France - merde sacre bleu
Referees - mince

Have I missed something? Have they won it already?

by Cyril Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:50 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:England - ~~not~~ as good as they need to be (a GS's a GS after all)
Wales - ~~not~~ never been as good as they used to be in the 70's
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be they were as good as I thought they'd be tho
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be what can you do in that weather
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be hey, they beat France, that's a top 6N for them
France - merde sacre bleu
Referees - mince

Have I missed something? Have they won it already?

After seeing Wales today. Yes.

by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:54 pm

England: Average, about the same as last year
Wales: About the same as last year, but started horrifically against Ireland, had injuries
Ireland: Terrible
Scotland: Bipolar
Italy: About the same as they were
France: Terrible

I don't think England have improved much since last year, a bit difficult to judge just how good they are because everyone else is playing below par. They are living off the reputation of beating the All Blacks

by Cyril Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:57 pm

IronMike wrote:England: Average, about the same as last year
Wales: About the same as last year, but started horrifically against Ireland, had injuries
Ireland: Terrible
Scotland: Bipolar
Italy: About the same as they were
France: Terrible

I don't think England have improved much since last year, a bit difficult to judge just how good they are because everyone else is playing below par. They are living off the reputation of beating the All Blacks

Hmm, strange how only Wales had injuries (and nobody else has had them) Headscratch

by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:57 pm

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:
thebluesmancometh wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:England - ~~not~~ as good as they need to be (a GS's a GS after all)
Wales - ~~not~~ never been as good as they used to be in the 70's
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be they were as good as I thought they'd be tho
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be what can you do in that weather
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be hey, they beat France, that's a top 6N for them
France - merde sacre bleu
Referees - mince

Have I missed something? Have they won it already?
After seeing Wales today. Yes.

And your happy to write off 2 teams of a 5 games tournament? I wonder where the English arrogance stereotype comes from Cyzil?

by Barney McGrew did it Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:58 pm

IronMike wrote:England: Average, about the same as last year
Wales: About the same as last year, but started horrifically against Ireland, had injuries
Ireland: Terrible
Scotland: Bipolar
Italy: About the same as they were
France: Terrible

I don't think England have improved much since last year, a bit difficult to judge just how good they are because everyone else is playing below par. They are living off the reputation of beating the All Blacks

That was the year we played Scotland and Italy as underdogs with half the team new, a new coaching team, and 3 caps between the squad? Yeah right.

by Cyril Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:59 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:
thebluesmancometh wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:England - ~~not~~ as good as they need to be (a GS's a GS after all)
Wales - ~~not~~ never been as good as they used to be in the 70's
Scotland - not as good as they thought they might be they were as good as I thought they'd be tho
Ireland - about as good as Kidney lets them be what can you do in that weather
Italy - trying hard to be more than they used to be hey, they beat France, that's a top 6N for them
France - merde sacre bleu
Referees - mince

Have I missed something? Have they won it already?
After seeing Wales today. Yes.

And your happy to write off 2 teams of a 5 games tournament? I wonder where the English arrogance stereotype comes from Cyzil?

Quite happy to do that, yep. I've seen the evidence with my own eyes. Anyway, it's confidence, no arrogance. Could you spell my name right please. Is that Welsh laziness? Very Happy

by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:03 pm

Sorry Cis...

by wayne Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:07 pm

England Better but still NOT good enough
Wales Not as good but still good enough
Scotland Better
Ireland Unlucky with injuries
Italy Better
France Terrible

by wayne Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:10 pm

England Better but still NOT good enough
Wales Not as good but still good enough
Scotland Better
Ireland Unlucky with injuries
Italy Better
France Terrible
It needed to be said twice for it to sink in, to some of the old farts on here

by mystiroakey Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:11 pm

england- improving. winning mentality, good discipline(so far offcourse)
wales- good- playing ok after 7 straight losses or bad considering they GS last year
Ireland- inconsitant
Italy- same- one win
france - bad

by wayne Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:19 pm

mystiroakey wrote:england- improving. winning mentality, good discipline(so far offcourse)
wales- good- playing ok after 7 straight losses or bad considering they GS last year
Ireland- inconsitant
Italy- same- one win
france - bad

Yes you are right your quote about England is OFF COURSE
Ireland are not inconsitant they MIGHT be inconsiStant
Where is Scotland

by mystiroakey Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:21 pm

Scotland are in a better place.. Sorry I forgot them!

They seem to be playing better rugby IMO.

by Feckless Rogue Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:30 pm

England - impressive
Wales - quite good
Scotland - very poor
Ireland - wet and sore
Italy - very poor
France - merde

by RDSguru Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:40 pm

Based on the comments here, looks like a GS this year is not going to be of much value, if achieved that is!

Compared to last year:

Eng> have improved slightly, in terms of teamwork and discipline at least
Wal> dropped off slightly, done well to recover from a shaky start with 3 away wins
Ire> dropped off slightly, seem to lack belief. Need fresh faces in the coaching and playing staff
Sco> improved slightly in terms of try scoring ability, but the wins just mask the weaknesses
Italy> Major improvement in ability and self confidence, and improved strength in depth
Fra> Well the stats don't lie, both in results and performance, difficult to assess due to crazy PSA selections

Fine lines in my opinion.

by glamorganalun Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:46 pm

England - SL doing a great job, same as last year, no grand slam but win win championship.
Wales - Impressive away form.
Scotland - much improved defence.
Ireland - Very good first half but run out of steam second half, need fresh blood
Italy - Only have one good game in them, can they make it two against Ireland.
France - Rubbish team selection, coach must go.

by RubyGuby Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:56 pm

England - Looking strong and efficient all over the park - developing nicely
Wales - Starting to get back on track after so many injuries - good defense but still not firing on all cylinders
Scotland - There's improvement but they need to be patient - lacking power up front
Ireland - Ravaged by key in juries to Sexton, Bowe and OConnell - Very difficult game ahead in Italy. Time to start afresh next season
Italy - Treading water, their next game will define their season, win and it's very good. lose and it's just the same.
France - The team and coach in particular have brought a new meaning to plucking defeat from the jaws of victory - Insanity at its best - they need a non-french coach thumbsup

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