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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 10:55 am

Great try Reds

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Post by Fluxy Fri 10 May 2013, 10:56 am

For me this year;

1. Mako
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3. Wilson
4. Hamilton
5. Slater
6. Braid
7. Fraser
8. Brown

9. Care
10. Flood
11. Wade
12. Allen
13. Tomkins or Eastmond
14. Varndell
15. Brown

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 11:00 am

Barely played since December what with internationals and injury.

He has been a great signing for us and looked quality against the jocks and may be a player who can play a higher level.

However to pick him above Allen who has played most prem games and been outstanding is weird.

It's meant to he based on prem games

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 10 May 2013, 11:01 am

Cruden is not the best fly half in the world right now. Cooper, wilko, joc and Foley all playing better.

Reds on fire. so good to watch

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 10 May 2013, 11:03 am

Backrow battle definitely a tough one to call - Braid changed Sale's season, was probably best signing of the year.

Though Fluxy I think I'd agree with you about Wilson as tighthead.

Hooker is a hard one, I am not the biggest Youngs fan but its amazing that he's gone from being a 4th/5th choice centre to international hooker in just a few years. Don't think that would ever be repeated. On current form I'd have had Hartley but he hasnt been consistent enough throughout the season.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 11:09 am

1. Vunipola
2. Youngs
3. Aulika
4. Hamilton
5. Slater
6. Louw
7. Fraser / Salvi
8. Vunipola
9. Care
10. Flood
11. Wade
12. Allen
13. ???
14. Varndell
15. Brown

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 11:15 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Cruden is not the best fly half in the world right now. Cooper, wilko, joc and Foley all playing better.

Reds on fire. so good to watch

And many more !

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 11:17 am

anonmattyt wrote:Barely played since December what with internationals and injury.

He has been a great signing for us and looked quality against the jocks and may be a player who can play a higher level.

However to pick him above Allen who has played most prem games and been outstanding is weird.

It's meant to he based on prem games

36 has played 18 prem games & Allen has played 17 with 2 sub appearences.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 11:18 am

Cruden best in world at min Carter obviously better but no real form over last 6 month or so.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 10 May 2013, 11:30 am

Not for me. Not even close. Best after Carter is probably Sexton. Chris Noakes at the Blues has impressed me the most of the NZ fly halfs. Would love to see Anscombe get a go at 10 as he looks quality.

Not seen as much of Cruden as I'd like but he was dire against the Reds and hasn't impressed me in the other games I've seen (forget who it was against).

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 11:30 am

Genia looking great, quality half from reds

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 11:34 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Barely played since December what with internationals and injury.

He has been a great signing for us and looked quality against the jocks and may be a player who can play a higher level.

However to pick him above Allen who has played most prem games and been outstanding is weird.

It's meant to he based on prem games

36 has played 18 prem games & Allen has played 17 with 2 sub appearences.

36 has played 4 games since December for glos against Irish, welsh, Exeter and one other in games where we were dire as was he. He was good for half a season so for me can't be in team of year

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 11:36 am

He was not great today either against a poor side. To be fair chiefs are injury ridden.

Anscombe looks great at fb. Has a good running threat

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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 11:37 am

12T was awful against Irish.

Anscombe struggled at 10 for Blues last year but to be fair they were poor.

He looks a lot better at 15 for Chiefs although I think he is more suited to 10 as he isnt the quickest. Great kicking game.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 10 May 2013, 11:54 am

Matt hates Twelvetrees ... Not an int player etc etc.

You say Youngs shouldn't have been nominated, yet every team I've Just seen has Youngs at 2.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 10 May 2013, 12:02 pm

If you mean me Luke, I have no issue with him being the best hooker. But I don't think he has been the best player, and was fortunate to be nominated.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 12:03 pm

Don't think Matt hates him, but to be fair he has seen him more than any of us so is a good judge. Not like he is slating a Bath player, 12T is one of his own!

No hooker has been a standout really.

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 12:14 pm

I don't hate 12 t if you read my earlier posts I said he has been good for glos up until December and then dropped off massively. He had a poor December and then played 4 more games for us in 2013.

I also said that he looked at home at international level vs the jocks and can maybe play at the higher level. His play at glos did not suggest he was international class but he had his chance and took it well.

My main point was how could he be in any team of the year when he has played barely any rugby in 2013 compared to someone like Allen who has been great.


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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 12:16 pm

agree with that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 12:17 pm

"However to pick him above Allen who has played most prem games and been outstanding is weird"

He's started more AP games than Allen, I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Understand if you think Allen has been stronger but to say it's because he's played less games isn't correct.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 12:18 pm

I'm sure if Matt had Tweletrees he'd be the worlds best 12 Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 12:19 pm

Cooper looking good this season,

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 12:27 pm

Haven't you got an IED to go and play with pooly ?

It really is tiresome to express an opinion and have the military equivalent of a milk monitor getting involved and trawling the Internet for everything.

I do wonder where our tax money goes with employing the likes of yourselves to sit on the Internet all day. Can't you find a vacancy in Helmand province or something ?


Its a forum ie opinions. I was wrong re Allen having played more. I thought he had. Allen has been better in the prem anyway so would have deserved it but to have you trying to shoot every single point I post on is tiresome and childish at best. I could think of other words.



Tedious in the extreme.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 12:30 pm

I would of thought Allen played more games, never seems to miss a game whereas 12T was injured for a bit.

I like 12T but he isn't the finished article yet. People want him to be the next Greenwood. I want him as starting England 12 though.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 10 May 2013, 12:34 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 12:36 pm

I'm off today Very Happy

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Post by stnick88 Fri 10 May 2013, 1:01 pm

Fraser named in Sarries to side to face Saints.....

so why is he not picked for England!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 10 May 2013, 1:03 pm

Cos Kvesic is better Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 10 May 2013, 1:11 pm

They both should go really, get shot of Callum Clark!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 May 2013, 1:23 pm

Perhaps due to have an op when the season finishes.
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