Which Klitschko do you rate higher?

This to me is a very interesting question. Personally, I rate Vitali higher in any all-time list. Wlad punches harder, but Vitaly has an iron chin, and despite Wlad being the Olympic champ, Vitaly is the one who doesnt lose rounds. For me, Vitaly is genuinely one of the greatest HW of all time. Which brother do you personally rate better?

Wlad has ended up with he better record and achieving more in my opinion.

Wlad is the far better boxer. Only advantage vitali has is the chin.

But Vitaly is bad-a$$, and if they had to fight Wlad is either going to get knocked or his gonna stay in his pocket for 12 rounds.

wlad is higher in my eyes.

Wlad is an olympic gold medalist and has uified the HW division for nearly a decade and has broke or will break many records such as most HW defences and most years as a HW champ. Also Wlad will probably retire with someting like over 70 fights with close to 60 KO's and only 3 defeats which is amazing.

I think having two brothers sharing the greatest prize in sports makes it a mockery..

But imagine If there were more.........

Mother would have to get cross with them!!!......

"You Vitali have the WBC...Wlad the WBO...You two the IBF and the WBA......."

"If you argue you go to bed"!!!

Peak against peak Id still pick Vitali to win, although the last few years Im not as confident as once was of that. If you were to pit them against the greats of every other era I would also favour Vitali to do better because he is tougher and more physical. Wlad has the superior skills set though and a jab and straight right that I think are outstanding by an era's reckoning.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I think having two brothers sharing the greatest prize in sports makes it a mockery..

But imagine If there were more.........

Mother would have to get cross with them!!!......

"You Vitali have the WBC...Wlad the WBO...You two the IBF and the WBA......."

"If you argue you go to bed"!!!

has any brother fought another brother in pro boxing?

If Khans brother becomes big and starts fighting at the same weight as Khan do you expect Khan to fight him?

What are you talking about..

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People attac the Klitchkos for not fighting each other and dont like their excuse that they wont fight cos they are brothers. But would any other brothers fight each other? Would khan fight his brother or would you insult his record if he didnt?

I wouldn't fight my brother......

My beef is two brothers..(like two sisters at tennis in the Williams case) Just makes the greatest prize in sports look laughably easy to win!! Vic.

Supposed to be the gold at the end of the rainbow that guys have died trying to attain..

Wladimir, very good boxer with much more power than his brother. Vitali has a unique style of fighting but he really struggles with guys who can defend and move, something Wlad has no problems with.

After Wlad won the Olympic gold it looks like they had to chose who would be the top brother as they would never decide that in the ring. They decided to push Wlad and put him up on the pedestal.

Vitali messed up his amateur career with the roids and then with the few years layoff he really had to step aside and watch his brother become all supreme.


I have no doubt though who was the better fighter prime for prime, easily Vitali for me. His power wasn't bad before his first retirement with a very high KO ratio.

Wlad is technically superior to Vitali, but thats offset by Vitalis greater durability, aggressiveness and toughness.

If Wlad were to encounter a boxer that was a superior range fighter than him, I get the impression he would have no back up plan or means to win other than a jackpot straight right. I think Vitali has shown more that if he encounters a boxer that was better than him, he could still potentially win through sheer bloody mindedness and toughness. He copes better with adversity.

I think that the problem with Wlad is - he seems to overcompensate in one direction or another. He used to be insanely gung ho - I mean triple left hooks upppercuts straights then when he trained with Manny - he seems to be overly defensive. How much of that is due to carrying and how much to his own decision making I dont know but I think a happy medium between the two could win him more fans and i'd give him the edge over Vitali.

Wlads A game is better than Vitalis for me. But Vitali is a more well rounded boxer all things considered.

The feeling I get is Wlad does carry opponents through his own decision because Ive seen on a couple of occasions Steward urging him to finish a guy or be more aggressive. So I dont think it was Stewards doing. I think its a combination of becoming naturally cautious in terms of being wary of punching himself out and trying to give his audience a longer spectacle. Possibly he also under pressure from the television networks to make them last so that they can sell more advertising slots also.

Against other great fighters I think I would have more concerns for Wlad than for Vitali. He is obviously less robust than Vitali, despite being a superior technician. And I think Vitali is more willing to put it all on the line. Wlad has a cannon of a straight right but he doesnt always use it to its full effect. Against other great fighters I think he would have to in order to win. Vitali wouldnt have that issue. He will go hell for leather.

Using the Lewis fight as an example. In that contest probably for the only time in Vitalis career, he found he couldnt outbox a guy at range. Lewis had the better and more accurate jab. But Vitali was able to to turn the fight into tear up by walking Lewis down, outworking him, roughing him up to the extent that he won more rounds than lost. He ended up losing the fight but he showed what a tough proposition he could be because if his skills fail, he can just use his size and durablity to make life hell.

Wlad on the other hand would have had to either beat Lewis using his own tried and tested formula or else Lewis would win. He couldnt change the terms of the fight like Vitali and he wouldnt have the durability to take the kind of shots Vitali did.

The difficulty in Wlad is assessing just how good his A game is and how much of it is down to just being so much better than the field. I genuinely think his jab and straight right would be outstanding in any era. He is a superb athlete. But still question marks over his ability to deal with adversity or adapt to a fight when he is not in control of the pace which I dont think Vitali has hanging over him.

Having a good chin means more in HW boxing than any other division. The great fighters will always find a way to get through at some stage. That's where Vitali survives and Wlad falls.

Get the two together and you might have ended up with the greatest heavy ever. One's weaknesses are the others strengths. I wish Wlad would throw with more venom though.

Their skills as boxers are very overrated. They are big men but they wouldnt have the ability to beat any of the greats. They have been beaten by journeymen in this era so theres nothing at all to say they would cope with the greats.

Yes whereas Fury price and wilder are the height of AWEsum and would be better than ray robinson if they were his size.

Fury is not anything special compared to the great heavyweights but he would expose the Klitschko brothers if he fought them. Big differance between being a great heavyweight and being able to beat one of the Klitschkos. Fury is bigger and better than most of the opponents that beat the Klitschkos.

winchester wrote:Fury is not anything special compared to the great heavyweights but he would expose the Klitschko brothers if he fought them. Big differance between being a great heavyweight and being able to beat one of the Klitschkos. Fury is bigger and better than most of the opponents that beat the Klitschkos.

seriously you talk nonsesnse.

How is that nonsense? You must have no knowledge of boxings history to think the Klitschkos could compete with the great heavyweights. They are seriously overrated on here. If you added both Klitschkos together and multiplied them 10 times they still wouldnt be a patch on the best heavyweights.

winchester wrote:How is that nonsense? You must have no knowledge of boxings history to think the Klitschkos could compete with the great heavyweights. They are seriously overrated on here. If you added both Klitschkos together and multiplied them 10 times they still wouldnt be a patch on the best heavyweights.

you talk nonsense

Clueless. If you cant see how ordianary the Klitschkos are you either dont understand boxing or you have no knowledge of the past great heavyweights. How do you think those guys fare against Ali, Tyson, Marciano,Foreman etc? You will probably tell me they beat them all at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGQGNNNGK2A
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEANlBbhsA

And believe me that fellow who knocked Klitschko out is no Mike Tyson.

winchester wrote:Clueless. If you cant see how ordianary the Klitschkos are you either dont understand boxing or you have no knowledge of the past great heavyweights. How do you think those guys fare against Ali, Tyson, Marciano,Foreman etc? You will probably tell me they beat them all at the same time.

Gordy?

Eh?

Do you like Lennox Lewis, Winchester??

No he was boring to watch.

Cant beleive people actually think Fury would Expose the Klitschos, thats just nonsene. As for the question, as of now itd have to be Wlad, but if it was prime vs prime id have to go with Vitali, his alot more harder to put away, if you needed to go for the knockout to win.

superflyweight wrote:

winchester wrote:Clueless. If you cant see how ordianary the Klitschkos are you either dont understand boxing or you have no knowledge of the past great heavyweights. How do you think those guys fare against Ali, Tyson, Marciano,Foreman etc? You will probably tell me they beat them all at the same time.

Gordy?

There always seems to be a new user who comes on here and just writes posts about how they hate the klitschkos.

Whether you like the klitschkos or not they have dominated for a decade and wlad will go on to dominate for another 4/5 years making nearly 15 years in total of domination. That is a long time and should be praised.

manos de piedra wrote:Wlads A game is better than Vitalis for me. But Vitali is a more well rounded boxer all things considered.

The feeling I get is Wlad does carry opponents through his own decision because Ive seen on a couple of occasions Steward urging him to finish a guy or be more aggressive. So I dont think it was Stewards doing. I think its a combination of becoming naturally cautious in terms of being wary of punching himself out and trying to give his audience a longer spectacle. Possibly he also under pressure from the television networks to make them last so that they can sell more advertising slots also.

Against other great fighters I think I would have more concerns for Wlad than for Vitali. He is obviously less robust than Vitali, despite being a superior technician. And I think Vitali is more willing to put it all on the line. Wlad has a cannon of a straight right but he doesnt always use it to its full effect. Against other great fighters I think he would have to in order to win. Vitali wouldnt have that issue. He will go hell for leather.

Using the Lewis fight as an example. In that contest probably for the only time in Vitalis career, he found he couldnt outbox a guy at range. Lewis had the better and more accurate jab. But Vitali was able to to turn the fight into tear up by walking Lewis down, outworking him, roughing him up to the extent that he won more rounds than lost. He ended up losing the fight but he showed what a tough proposition he could be because if his skills fail, he can just use his size and durablity to make life hell.

Wlad on the other hand would have had to either beat Lewis using his own tried and tested formula or else Lewis would win. He couldnt change the terms of the fight like Vitali and he wouldnt have the durability to take the kind of shots Vitali did.

The difficulty in Wlad is assessing just how good his A game is and how much of it is down to just being so much better than the field. I genuinely think his jab and straight right would be outstanding in any era. He is a superb athlete. But still question marks over his ability to deal with adversity or adapt to a fight when he is not in control of the pace which I dont think Vitali has hanging over him.

I second every bit of this post and probably one of the most intelligent posts ive come across on this board fantastic summary.

PPVxHOTTY wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Wlads A game is better than Vitalis for me. But Vitali is a more well rounded boxer all things considered.

The feeling I get is Wlad does carry opponents through his own decision because Ive seen on a couple of occasions Steward urging him to finish a guy or be more aggressive. So I dont think it was Stewards doing. I think its a combination of becoming naturally cautious in terms of being wary of punching himself out and trying to give his audience a longer spectacle. Possibly he also under pressure from the television networks to make them last so that they can sell more advertising slots also.

Against other great fighters I think I would have more concerns for Wlad than for Vitali. He is obviously less robust than Vitali, despite being a superior technician. And I think Vitali is more willing to put it all on the line. Wlad has a cannon of a straight right but he doesnt always use it to its full effect. Against other great fighters I think he would have to in order to win. Vitali wouldnt have that issue. He will go hell for leather.

Using the Lewis fight as an example. In that contest probably for the only time in Vitalis career, he found he couldnt outbox a guy at range. Lewis had the better and more accurate jab. But Vitali was able to to turn the fight into tear up by walking Lewis down, outworking him, roughing him up to the extent that he won more rounds than lost. He ended up losing the fight but he showed what a tough proposition he could be because if his skills fail, he can just use his size and durablity to make life hell.

Wlad on the other hand would have had to either beat Lewis using his own tried and tested formula or else Lewis would win. He couldnt change the terms of the fight like Vitali and he wouldnt have the durability to take the kind of shots Vitali did.

The difficulty in Wlad is assessing just how good his A game is and how much of it is down to just being so much better than the field. I genuinely think his jab and straight right would be outstanding in any era. He is a superb athlete. But still question marks over his ability to deal with adversity or adapt to a fight when he is not in control of the pace which I dont think Vitali has hanging over him.

I second every bit of this post and probably one of the most intelligent posts ive come across on this board fantastic summary.

The only thing I would say is that we don't know if wlad can change his game plan or come out on top in a tough fight. Wlad has been so dominant for the last 10 years under steward that he has never needed to do anything different.

We all thought Haye would trouble wlad but wlads A game was so good that it meant he flew through the haye fight with ease.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

PPVxHOTTY wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Wlads A game is better than Vitalis for me. But Vitali is a more well rounded boxer all things considered.

The feeling I get is Wlad does carry opponents through his own decision because Ive seen on a couple of occasions Steward urging him to finish a guy or be more aggressive. So I dont think it was Stewards doing. I think its a combination of becoming naturally cautious in terms of being wary of punching himself out and trying to give his audience a longer spectacle. Possibly he also under pressure from the television networks to make them last so that they can sell more advertising slots also.

Against other great fighters I think I would have more concerns for Wlad than for Vitali. He is obviously less robust than Vitali, despite being a superior technician. And I think Vitali is more willing to put it all on the line. Wlad has a cannon of a straight right but he doesnt always use it to its full effect. Against other great fighters I think he would have to in order to win. Vitali wouldnt have that issue. He will go hell for leather.

Using the Lewis fight as an example. In that contest probably for the only time in Vitalis career, he found he couldnt outbox a guy at range. Lewis had the better and more accurate jab. But Vitali was able to to turn the fight into tear up by walking Lewis down, outworking him, roughing him up to the extent that he won more rounds than lost. He ended up losing the fight but he showed what a tough proposition he could be because if his skills fail, he can just use his size and durablity to make life hell.

Wlad on the other hand would have had to either beat Lewis using his own tried and tested formula or else Lewis would win. He couldnt change the terms of the fight like Vitali and he wouldnt have the durability to take the kind of shots Vitali did.

The difficulty in Wlad is assessing just how good his A game is and how much of it is down to just being so much better than the field. I genuinely think his jab and straight right would be outstanding in any era. He is a superb athlete. But still question marks over his ability to deal with adversity or adapt to a fight when he is not in control of the pace which I dont think Vitali has hanging over him.

I second every bit of this post and probably one of the most intelligent posts ive come across on this board fantastic summary.

The only thing I would say is that we don't know if wlad can change his game plan or come out on top in a tough fight. Wlad has been so dominant for the last 10 years under steward that he has never needed to do anything different.

We all thought Haye would trouble wlad but wlads A game was so good that it meant he flew through the haye fight with ease.

True plus another thing about the K brothers is they're 'athletic' they don't just rely on size to win them fights they work hard and don't even mention Haye in same category, he's a cruiserweight.

winchester wrote:Clueless. If you cant see how ordianary the Klitschkos are you either dont understand boxing or you have no knowledge of the past great heavyweights. How do you think those guys fare against Ali, Tyson, Marciano,Foreman etc? You will probably tell me they beat them all at the same time.

That's like saying Mayweather is ordinary and how do you think he would fare against SRR, Duran and Henry Armstrong, you mention how Fury would expose them, well people on here were also picking Harrison to beat Wilder! Id pick Deontay WIlder over Fury and also I can't see Fury beating Kubrat Pulev. Can't you see Fury is doing this hype for a big payday nothing else, what did Haye do when he walked in ring? he got his head jabbed off all night long. To say people don't have knowledge of the greats is just sheer hatred for the K brothers or you have issues, they're brilliant and any boxing fan would love to watch them. You're only as good as the opponent put in front of you, 'if you want to compare resumes I challenge you to find me a heavyweight in their era with a better resume' its not their fault that the skillset of Ali, Tyson, Marciano etc is non existent in their opponents today.

I don’t have anything against the Klitschkos. I just recognise that they are ordinary boxers. There seems to be a bit of a Klitschko fan club on here that overrate them big time. Whether they are the best around now is one thing. I think Fury, Price and Wilder are the new breed coming through that would beat them. But its delusional to think they would be able to compete with the all time great heavyweights. Their lack of ability would be exposed.

i rate vitali higher. Unless wlad is wearing his cuban heels, in which case he is higher.

in terms of them as a fighter, it's whether you like durability over technique. I used to err to vk, but given wlad's long untroubled run, I think you can make a case for both now.

Maybe I am being stupid but if someone thinks the brothers would beat Fury it automatically means they believe they would hold their own with the greatest heavies of all time?

I think they would compete with the past greats. They wont win every single fight but I think they are certainly capable of beating a number of the greats and providing strong, capable opposition.

manos de piedra wrote:I think they would compete with the past greats. They wont win every single fight but I think they are certainly capable of beating a number of the greats and providing strong, capable opposition.

I'd rate both brothers within my top20, it's fair to say all fighters in those top twenty are capable of beating one another at some stage in head to head match-ups.

No doubt ill be accused of being silly and old fighters are stand up UFC calibre, however as soon as Ali comes on the scene, his not categorised as an old time fighter and evolution of technique managed to stop there.

Cheers rodders

I rate Vitali higher. Pit the K bro's against each other in their prime and Vitali would destroy Wlad. All people bang on about is the length of Wlad's reign.

Can't get past a tired, bored, old, fat lennox hitting Vitali at will in their fight....Jab was glued to his face...

These two ae the primo Carnera's of their era..........

Wlad would have caused Lewis more trouble.................I believe.. and Haye is the best win on either record.

winchester wrote:Fury is not anything special compared to the great heavyweights but he would expose the Klitschko brothers if he fought them. Big differance between being a great heavyweight and being able to beat one of the Klitschkos. Fury is bigger and better than most of the opponents that beat the Klitschkos.

Which fury would this be then???? as you cant surley be talking about that lumbering idiot called Luke?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Can't get past a tired, bored, old, fat lennox hitting Vitali at will in their fight....Jab was glued to his face...

These two ae the primo Carnera's of their era..........

Wlad would have caused Lewis more trouble.................I believe.. and Haye is the best win on either record.

Did you watch the lewis v klitschko fight? Klitschko out landed lewis for power punches and jabs in every single round.

It was a very exciting fight and Vitali is in the top 3 names for Lewis victories (Holyfield, Tyson, Klitschko).