Not Making Weight vs Blowing Up Post Weigh In vs BOTH

Which is worse in your opinion?

Bare in mind that elite fighters like Lee Purdy and Adrien Broner have missed weight recently for world title fights. Not intentionally I'm sure as it comes with a stripping or non-title fight, 10% fine, and all sorts of cyber hate. Still, with short notice and a love for twinkies, it happens.

Remember when Floyd came in big against JMM but no one said nothing because it's Floyd? Wasn't really fair that. JMM was tiny already. How'd he get so big in last fight then? Hmm...

Also consider those who balloon, legally or illegally. JCC Jr and Canelo are two good examples of fighters who put on up to 20 pounds post weigh in. How unfair is this in comparison to the ones who come in one or two pounds over?

Is it power and money that dictate whether fights go on and fighters accept the disadvantage of a massively over sized opponent ?

Probably.

For me, personally, as in, the way I feel today--not making weight is worse. Even a massive grass toking (proven) stoner like JCC Jr makes weight, and that guy was getting big time munchies in the lead up to Martinez, and walking around in pink pants.

Thoughts?

Oh, and who does both best?

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Purdy isn't elite David, far from it.

Also I remember everyone on the old 606 complaining when Floyd ignored the catchweight and just took the fine.

I have no complaints with fighters who miss weight and it's a obvious mistake, but Purdy missed weight for his last fight as well. The guy should have lived in the gym, and after he missed weight taken a huge dump or something just to make sure he lost that 1lb.

Perhaps we're too harsh on Purdy. Maybe he simply canot make 147 anymore. I'm sure he's not that stupid not to work hard enough for the biggest night of his career.

I was being sarcastic, hampo. Purdy had four weeks notice. Purdy is uneducated. Purdy is just a man.

Back off Purdy, he did his best.

Did he though? I've heard from a few guys that he lost half a pound in the first hour and then gave up.

if you're doing it legally, then i don't have an issue with anyone blowing up 20lbs after the weigh in. they made the weight, that's all that matters.

I'm just watching the weigh in on Sky Sports 1, and Purdy looked devastated that he missed weight and it really seemed to affect him. Maybe I am being a little harsh on him but he seemed a little fleshy on the scales.

Yes.

who said anything about klitschko

Boxers need to spend less time cutting weight to squeeze into a division unhealthy for them and more time working on their fundamental boxing. Most of the very best boxers out there are not big for their weight division and don't spend all of their time in the gym cutting weight instead they actually improve as boxers. The guys who make a living off being big at the weight can only do it for so long before it catches up to them and they have to move up a division then get exposed when their style doesn't work against someone their own size.

Some boxers want to use size as opposed to skill to win fights hence cutting weight and re-hydrating 2 divisions (or more) up.

That's true but I just see it as a very short sighted approach by them, they'd be better off fighting a weight up and working on boxing in the gym and not sweating they're balls off trying to cut weight. From the number 1 in each division it's only Alvarez and Broner who are big in their respective weight classes.

Hatton was one who used his size and strength in a decisive manner. Peterson is another. He is huge for his weight class.

But it seems the best in each weight class are best because of skill as opposed to size. ie Ward, Floyd/Pac/JMM, Dawson/Hopkins, GGG/Martinez and so on.

Rigo is another, he's been in that division for about 10 years as an amateur as well I believe.

I didn't realise Peterson was really big at the weight, if he can match Matthysse for strength tonight it will be a long night for Lucas.

Guys like Rios who would be strong and durable at Light Welter spent too much time draining himself to make Lightweight to try and gain a bit more of an advantage in size really would have been better off moving up sooner and actually trying to box a bit instead of just bully people. Chavez Jr is the same and now I'll be surprised if either get their hands on a world title again unless it's gifted to them now they've been forced to move up as they can't physically make weight where they could before.

You say Marquez is small which he is but what does he weigh in on fight night Marquez pacman 2 I'm sure pacman came in at 145lbs an as there roughly the same size I would imagine Marquez would be similar! Mayweather came in at 147 against cotto so all this he was a lot bigger is not true he wouldn't be more han 5lbs bigger I doubt

The higher up in weight JMM goes, the more he relies on skill and not strength. Good boxers fall back on their skills when the weight advantage goes.