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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:05 am

Being hypothetical, what if loosehead disease keeps spreading through the lions camp and there are no more decent props to call up? What if there is a really awesome on form prop playing in France who hasn't represented France at age grade level, but he has a British or Irish grandfather?

I'm guessing he would be eligible for one of the home nations?
If you're eligible for one of the home nations then you can be picked for the lions regardless of whether you've had a cap for that nation yet.

If Mr Frenchman got picked for the lions because of an English grandfather, is he then obligated and bound to only England or could he go home to represent France?
If this happened but then he represented France at a later date, would he be exempt from an future lions tours?

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:09 am

Well he hadn't played for England so surely he's not tied to England.

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I think.

[ed] If he subsequently played for France, he'd be Lions ineligible.

[ed2] However If he's affiliated to a French team in the first place, could he be called up to the Lions in the first place as he'd had no UK representative team or nation to call on?

I don't know, but I don't think so.
Good question.


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Post by Geordie Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:14 am

I think we can still find some decent looseheads over picking a frenchman... Headscratch

Even Sheridan, Nick Wood etc would be preferable in my eyes...and im sure there are others in the rest of the home nations that this hypothetical question should never arise Very Happy thumbsup

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:22 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:I think we can still find some decent looseheads over picking a frenchman... Headscratch

Even Sheridan, Nick Wood etc would be preferable in my eyes...and im sure there are others in the rest of the home nations that this hypothetical question should never arise Very Happy thumbsup
You're not playing the game Geordie.
This is a hypothetical not a practical/literal question.

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Post by Geordie Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:32 am

Dayam...sorry got my miserable grumpy head on today...

Ok yes why would he not be eligable...


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Post by Cyril Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:52 am

This would work well as a poll.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 8:57 am

It is a good question, especially as the Lions have in the past picked uncapped players. Let's roll it back a bit - Will Greenwood was the last uncapped player to tour, if memory serves. If Greenwood had a French mother, for example, could he have returned from the Lions and then played for France?

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Post by offload Tue 11 Jun 2013, 9:02 am

Hypothetically, I rather have an Italian prop with English grandfather and Scottish mother. They make better tourists - hypothetically of course.
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Post by sickofwendy Tue 11 Jun 2013, 9:11 am

Are there any French props with British parents or are we in narnia ?

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Post by nganboy Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:15 am

You could probably find a Kiwi prop who had British grandparents and hadn't played for NZ yet. Seems to happen in other positions. The advantage would be knows the Aussies players and the flight over would be cheaper.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:27 am

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:This would work well as a poll.

Possibly, but I'm not a fan of polls.

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Post by Cyril Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:28 am

t1000advancedprototype wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:This would work well as a poll.

Possibly, but I'm not a fan of polls.
You daft racist Wink

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:30 am

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:
t1000advancedprototype wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:This would work well as a poll.

Possibly, but I'm not a fan of polls.
You daft racist Wink

Not at all, just old school. I preferred them as Prussians or Austro-Hungarians.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 11 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

offload wrote:Hypothetically, I rather have an Italian prop with English grandfather and Scottish mother. They make better tourists - hypothetically of course.

More confusing question though, IF such a player turned up then who would he be stuck with, B&I means he could still be English/Scottish, so he would still be a free agent internationally (I guess to England or Scotland), even IF the Lions ruled him out of being Italian.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 11 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

nganboy wrote:You could probably find a Kiwi prop who had British grandparents and hadn't played for NZ yet. Seems to happen in other positions. The advantage would be knows the Aussies players and the flight over would be cheaper.

I doubt it, if one existed then they would have been drafted into Glagow or Edinburgh by now censored
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