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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 9:54 am

First topic message reminder :

It's weird...no thread on T1 yet
Ashton Agar will play is the breaking news.
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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

Cook obviously doesn't want to let young Agar settle ...nice strike wide of mid on. Not your typical Cook shot but his feet moved nicely.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

Oh no.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:00 pm

KP gone Sad

Well batted from our best player though. He has done the job we needed him to do.

Will we finally see a good innings from Bell? If he goes early cheaply, he should be dropped for Compton or Taylor IMO.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:01 pm

the score looks a little closer to par now. I'd say with this pitch today even 100-2 might be closer to par though.

Impossible to know in this crazy match.

Agar really turned this match into a contest. Horror for England fans but perfect for the neutral.


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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:02 pm

That's what happens when you try to be who your are not( read responsible) and restrain your natural game...instead of a 125 off 150 balls.......he gets merely a 60 odd from same no. of deliveries
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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:02 pm

A wicket out of nowhere ! KP drags Pattinson on...

Pity. Was looking forward to watching him in full flight after lunch. He played pretty well , but that wicket has put Australia back on top , just as things were starting to move the home team's way.

Would be a good day for Bell to recover some form.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:05 pm

Sterling effort from Pietersen. Reined himself in. Looked to ease up the gears, only to unluckily chop on. Still, England are manoeuvring themselves into a good position. Come on Ian Bell!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:05 pm

oh ffs.

England can't just bat to plan and see a day out can they.

now all the pressure is on them and they are once again way behind plan.

so a decent innings from KP but no, not great. He didn't hang around and bat Aussie out, he's put the pressure back on.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:05 pm

KP_fan wrote:That's what happens when you try to be who your are not( read responsible) and restrain your natural game...instead of a 125 off 150 balls.......he gets merely a 60 odd from same no. of deliveries

Never would have happened on this pitch, it's far too slow.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:08 pm

50 for Captain Fantastic, now Bell's off the mark with a sweet drive.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:09 pm

Hard to judge just where this match is , eh , trebs ?

Batting generally looks easy enough , ball doesn't seem to do much ...and yet apart from that crazy last wicket stand yesterday nobody has really dominated the bowlers at any stage...and wickets fall when you least expect.

So I have no idea what sort of lead would give England confidence . Two hundred might be plenty , three hundred not enough , depending on the weather and how the pitch develops.

Think I will just watch with an open mind.

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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:10 pm

Pattinson is getting a bit of reverse shape in to RHB ......he needs to control it better.....and start from off stump instead of middle line


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:10 pm

someone has to bat a big ton or aussie will be waltzing their matilda's in the isles tonight.

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Post by Scrumpy Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:11 pm

Cook gone.

Game over.
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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:11 pm

Two new batsmen now. This could be a huge turning point.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:11 pm

Cook gone for 50

Now im scared, really scared.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:12 pm

Cook gone. Trouble for England - we really don't make this easy do we?

Bell, Bairstow, and Prior. It's all down to them, with a minimum of 133 runs to get.

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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:12 pm

OMG...Eng 66-4....one end is spinning from the rouhg and the otehr is reversing...and the procession has started.

Hope they can set atleast 150 chase to give their 3 bowlers a chance


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Post by Scrumpy Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:12 pm

Eng 0 - Aus 1

I'd put my mortgage on it.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:13 pm

pathetic. just pathetic.

it's true they simple aren't good enough to play proper test innings against a good bowling side and win are they.

1-0 aussie. probably on the way to a stuffing.

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:14 pm

Lucky we have a deep batting line-up. We're going to need it!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:15 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Lucky we have a deep batting line-up. We're going to need it!

do we?

who is in form?


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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

Duty281 wrote:
KP_fan wrote:That's what happens when you try to be who your are not( read responsible) and restrain your natural game...instead of a 125 off 150 balls.......he gets merely a 60 odd from same no. of deliveries

Never would have happened on this pitch, it's far too slow.

they needed him to try and take the game away...this blocking at 2rpo ain't gonna build the lead fast enouhg
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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

Oh dear, the knee-jerkers are off again. With the exception of Trebbs, of course. Long way to go in this game yet.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

Oh dear...Cook out Sad 

Agar has his first wicket. My fears of last night are not being soothed...still a lot of cricket to be played but I think this is Australia's match to lose...and I just can't see England finding a way out of it somehow. Every time they appear to be getting back into the game , things go wrong again...


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Post by Guest Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

We do have a deep batting line-up. Regardless of form, all it takes is one innings from one of them and we're fine. Any of Bell, Bairstow and Prior is capable of a century, and Broad and Swann are capable of a 50. They just need to do it now more than ever!

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Post by Scrumpy Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

The England players look like they need more County Championship games.

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

Yeah!! £20 on Australia, at 4/1... Thank you BetFair!!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:18 pm

but aussie have super agar. the world best cricketing toddler.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:18 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
Azzy Mahmood wrote:Lucky we have a deep batting line-up. We're going to need it!

do we?

who is in form?


Only takes one knock, and on what is a good pitch for batting the next three could all get runs.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

I will give you 8/1 now if you want no limit!

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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

he's got his line right Pattinson....needs to consistently get the length right......pitch it up whihc he didn't do for 5 balls in the over.

if he does.....he will get one within a couple of overs
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:20 pm

I do admire the optimism, I really do.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:21 pm

With the king of swing, James Anderson, reversing it, and Swann turning it heavily on this pitch, I would say a target of 180 for the Aussies would make it 50/50. Anything above 220, and England have got it in the bag.

Lead up to 70 now. Bat and bat and bat.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:22 pm

agar could get 180 on his own in a few overs Duty.


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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:23 pm

I don't doubt it Trebbs! Laugh 

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Post by Scrumpy Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:23 pm

Bells playing for his Test career imo, can he pull something out of the bag?
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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:23 pm

Not sure about anyone else but I like this rev meter they've got. Agar seems to give it more of a rip but gets less turn than Swann.

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:23 pm

Any target over 200 will make this a game. 250 makes it England's imo.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:24 pm

In 20 years time, after another 5 Aussie series wins on the bounce, they will be talking of Agar as the greatest Aussie in living memory.

And I shall probably have tied of the depression of decades more England failure.

I won't even get to enjoy my retirement because of Agar, the selfish Bar Steward.

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:25 pm

Makes me wonder... What were the odds on a 150 run tenth wicket partnership yesterday? At least 50/1 surely?
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Post by Guest Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:26 pm

Wow, talk about counting your chooks. Half of one game and he's Shane Warne 2.0 Laugh

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:26 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:In 20 years time, after another 5 Aussie series wins on the bounce, they will be talking of Agar as the greatest Aussie in living memory.

And I shall probably have tied of the depression of decades more England failure.

I won't even get to enjoy my retirement because of Agar, the selfish Bar Steward.

You'd probably be happier supporting Bangladesh you know! Then you have a right to be miserable. Laugh 

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:26 pm

Hampo are you sure.

It looks as though agar is at least 200 revs down on swan on average

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:27 pm

kingraf wrote:Makes me wonder... What were the odds on a 150 run tenth wicket partnership  yesterday? At  least 50/1 surely?

 err - more like 200/1 minimum

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:27 pm

Duty281 wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:In 20 years time, after another 5 Aussie series wins on the bounce, they will be talking of Agar as the greatest Aussie in living memory.

And I shall probably have tied of the depression of decades more England failure.

I won't even get to enjoy my retirement because of Agar, the selfish Bar Steward.

You'd probably be happier supporting Bangladesh you know! Then you have a right to be miserable. Laugh 

no, they meet their expectations.

England keep getting expectations well beyond their ability and that creates nothing but disappointment.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:29 pm

the bbc commentary always gets more positive when England struggle.  are they basically run by aussies?

Fordyce really can sod off. he was one of the ones talking England up and now he's delighting in ripping them apart.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:31 pm

Bairstow and Bell have started in a positive vein. 30 minutes till lunch, you can be certain the Australians have one eye on England's evolving lead.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:34 pm

Great position for bell and bairstow to try and hold on to there places..

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 12:36 pm

A couple of steady half-centuries from these two, followed by aggression from Prior/Broad/Swann, and then we're laughing.

1 nil England, give us the urn now!

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