Athletic Ballbag

First topic message reminder :

22 Players (min = 22, max = 30)
 
Goalkeepers
Gorka Iraizoz
Julien Speroni
Matheus Caldeira
 
Defence
Philippe Lahm
Neven Subotic
Ashley Cole
Leandro Castan
Hugo Campagnaro
Naldo
Joel Veltman
 
Midfield
Sami Khedira
Leon Osman
Xabi Alonso
Davy Propper
Juan Iturbe
Arjen Robben
Jose Maria Callejon
 
Forwards
Alvaro Negredo
Paulo Victor
Marco Reus
Nicolas Anelka
Lee Barnard

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Budget 
Current Budget = £1.7m
 
Players in 
Danny Carvajal - Real Madrid/The Nodge - £8.8m
Emre Can - Leverkusen - £4.4m
Leandro Castan - Roma - £5.7m
Pablo Zabaleta - Man City - £16m
Sami Khedira - Basel - part ex 5
Julien Speroni - Releases - £250k
Andrea Pirlo - Juventus - £8.8m
Andrea Barzagli - Juventus - £10.5m
David Stockdale - Releases - £1.1m
Joel Veltman - Releases - £250k
Viktor Fischer - Ajax (TP) - £6.2m
Koke - Atletico - £17.5m
Juan Iturbe - Porto/Verona - £4.4m
Silvestre Varela - Ajax (in league) - part ex 6
Arjen Robben - Zwag - £20m
Alessandro Florenzi - Ajax (in league) - part ex 7
Nigel de Jong - Ajax (in league) - £5m
Stefan Kiessling - Zwag - £11m
Lucas Andersen - Ajax (in league) - part ex 8
Davy Propper - Vitesse - £650k
Philippe Lahm - Bayern - £26.5m
Alvaro Negredo - Man City - £24m
Matheus Caldeira - Releases - £50k
Paulo Victor - Releases - £50k
Marco Reus + Marco Streller + Eric Abidal - part ex 9 + £1.9m
Naldo - Wolfsburg - £4.4m
Leon Osman - Everton - £3.1m
Nicolas Anelka, Hugo Campagnaro & Lee Barnard - Releases - £2.2m

Players out
Ander Herrera - Lawyers - £20m
Erik Moran - Lawyers - £500k
Danny Carvajal - Lille - £13m
Carl Jenkinson - Lawyers - £6m
Marcel Schmelzer - Moenchengladbach - £11m
Phil Jagielka + Maxime Gonalons + David Villa - Basel - part ex 5 + £6.5m
Carlos Gurpegi - Lawyers - £1.5m
Adam Maher - Lawyers - £9m
David Stockdale - Lawyers - £2.5m
Markel Susaeta - Lawyers - £9m
Viktor Fischer - Ajax (in league) - part ex 6 + £0.4m
Unai Albizua - Lawyers - £200k
Giuseppe Rossi - Lawyers - £20m
Emre Can - Ajax - part ex 7
Andrea Pirlo - Basel - £12m
Aymeric Laporte - Lawyers - £4m
Branimir Hrgota - Lawyers - £1.5m
Davy Klaassen - Ajax (in league) - part ex 8 + £6.7m
Lucas Andersen - Basel - £1.5m
Pablo Zabaleta - Lawyers - £18m
Hyuri - Lawyers - £500k
Patrik Olsen - Lawyers - £800k
Silvestre Varela - Lawyers - £7.5m
Stefan Kiessling - Lawyers - £13m
Andrea Barzagli + Koke + Didier Drogba - part ex 9
Alessandro Florenzi, Fabinho, Nigel de Jong, Eric Abidal & Marco Streller - Releases - £11.4m
 
Other
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 1 - £1m
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 2 - £1m
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 3 - £1m
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 5 - £1m
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 6 - £1m
Tactics and voting bonus - Week 7 - £1m

 

Season One Finances:

Ive done Maths in my head and tbh the most i could offer for him is 10.5m

That's going to be very very difficult for me to do because I don't have the cash and there's a deal I want to do with Marky. You have a Lawyers offer for Villa but will you be accepting it  that is the key question. 

I'll have to go back to the drawing board and look at my releases and see what I can come up with.  Doubt I'll be able to offer the 10m you want for villa.

You have a Lawyers offer for Villa but will you be accepting it that is the key question.

IT DOESNT MATTER if he accepts it.
Its used as a bargining chip, you know that Viva.

Yeah i could stretch to that so feel free to confirm

Was literally by 0.2m  

Afro wrote:

I'm only pulling your leg.

Personally I use both. If they are a first teamer, I am more interested in their ability, but if they are someone I would consider selling, then TM value comes into it

I was waiting till you sold Schmelzer so I could laugh at this post.

How do you mean?  

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

You have a Lawyers offer for Villa but will you be accepting it  that is the key question.

IT DOESNT MATTER if he accepts it.
Its used as a bargining chip, you know that Viva.

I am willing to wait till Summer to buy my Winter coat.

Afro wrote:How do you mean?  

You sold a second choice player who you wanted to sell for more then TM value.

VivaPaulScholes wrote:

Afro wrote:How do you mean?  

You sold a second choice player who you wanted to sell for more then TM value.

I think your point is a bit muddled? So you think I should have sold for less than someone was willing to pay because of his TM value

Mine was that if I am thinking of cashing in, then TM value is the minimum I would consider.

Anyway, Gonalons + Jags + £2m for Khedira?

VivaPaulScholes wrote:

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

You have a Lawyers offer for Villa but will you be accepting it  that is the key question.

IT DOESNT MATTER if he accepts it.
Its used as a bargining chip, you know that Viva.

I am willing to wait till Summer to buy my Winter coat.

I'm confused here.

There are some alternatives to Khedira in TPs, so if the choice was £10m for Villa to pay for the TP, or him as £8m in a swap deal for Khedira, then dependant on the TP player, then yes I would sell him for £10m

I want Villa in that deal bulks my firepower up.  I'll try to raise money see if we can to some agreement on the Gonalons Jagielka villa deal.  I understand if you feel you can get someone from tp but I just need to check my finance. 

I'll be back with a new offer but with money, we're in no rush let's not let Nick and his cronies scupper our deal.

I'm 0.5m short of that but with a couple of releases and my lawyer for Stocker I think we can do a deal there.

Afro wrote:Just added this to the original post, so putting it separately here

Jags + Gonalons + Villa (26)

= Khedira + £6.5m (26)

Would be what I would want if I included all three of them

I've done some working out and I have the money to do this deal.

I'm out now need to release a player and do Lawyers when I get back I'll confirm.  An yes you have first choice on Schurrle as  sweetener 7

Confirmed the deal, good luck with the Khedira and Alonso partnership.  Happy to bring in good players that strengthen my team.

How much cash for Remy?

I want to wait to see what Trebs says about my negotiation with him.

But for your Remy would take something like Ashley Cole + £4m or around £11.5m cashola.

As I said, im waiting on Trebs first

no worries pal.

Ferdinand might be available for the right price.

I sold Stocker in lawyer forgot to update it and Schar I want to keep but 7m would be what the chairman would accept.

I think I'm going to keep Ferdinand, sorry.

I didn't know much about Stocker before I took over Basel but quickly learnt he is one of the important players but I was forced in selling him so I could do the deal with you, if only everyone else thought like you I wouldn't have to sell him. I'll check out his goal, I think I may have heard about it on Twitter. Schar is good back up and I'm confident in him covering for Terry and Jagielka.

What a sweet strike, hit it so clean and perfectly rises beautifully top corner. Keeper never had a chance.

I know. What a sweet volley

no thanks, distin is a starter and tony is a good 2nd choice and sub option

Khedira available

Rafinha is still available mate

Thanks.

That's a nice starting base. I'd be looking for a left winger as well.

That's ok. You need to watch Full Metal Jacket, I'm surprised and shocked that you've not watched it.

I like Pirlo alot but he hasn't been the same as last season. Losing Schurrle would be a bigger blow as I already have Matuidi Gonalons Frei Diaz and a few others who can play in CM. 

Do you have cash?

No deal I guess. Schurrle is more important to Basel than Pirlo is. There's a few options to Pirlo I'd rather buy then going over the odds to get him.

I'd rather sell Schurrle for cash and buy someone like Poli and use the other 12m on a winger. Pirlo is good but he is not superman like some have made him out to be. It don't make sense for me to sell a player that is likely to get me goals in votes for a DM who yes will control games but it's goals who win games.

Slightly off topic but I figure you're the best person to ask this. 

Bryan Robson or Graeme Souness?

I fully understand your reasons but what happens when Pirlo is injured. I have improved my team but I'm still far far away from the next best team in the league. I need to pack my team with good players everywhere 4 injuries blow my team apart. 

If you added Suaesta maybe we could do something.

I'm sorry I can't do that. I'm happy with my current team and I'll sell Schurrle for a deal that suits my team just like everyone else is doing with their big names.

I have a squad of 30 I can give you a player but not the player you want 

holtby + hangeland
for
susaeta + laporte?

I'll have to have a look at my squad see who im willibg to sell and who you will take.

I don't want to do the deal if I'm honest. You want one of my good players or a player that I don't want to let go.

Salah is a very good player and first team for me at the moment. If I'm going to lose Schurlle I'd want a good deal as possible and if I'm honest I don't rate the deal as high as you do.

And money on top?

If you offer me 5m I'll chuck in two players.

Serey Die and Safari gives you a bit more flexibility in your next deal.  I want a left winger aswell.

I'm saying that in general that I need a left sided player not that I want one from you.  Unless you want to.

I'll need to bring in an instant replacement for Schurlle because I'm very light on the left that's why I need the cash.  It's not worth me losing my main player when I still have to replace him. Everyone except me plays hardball for their top players.

If I give you 5m worth of players and ask for 5m it makes no business sense to me. Im not letting go my most valuable player when I still have to replace him.

Hi mate, enjoyed your holiday?  Would you accept straight cash for Pirlo?

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Would you accept straight cash for Pirlo?

He would but not the £6m you will pay  

Ahahaha was that Nick Fury having a go at my transfer offers Hahahaha. 

Nick: what for pirlo 
Afro: Ideally I am looking for a pex but willing to listen to cash offers. 
Nick : I'll make a 3m bid with Lee cattermole for pirlo 
Afro: no thank you I'll have to reject 
Nick : ok ok 6m
Afro: if you offer 10m you can have him
Nick: hmm will you take 7m
Afro: you serious? 
Nick: 10m enq 
Afro: deal
Nick : wait I'll offer 8m

Rinse and repeat.  Nick Fury the only manager who knows how to scupper a deal when it just needs confirmation.   

   

Viva chatting about my negtociations, pot kettle mate

Viva: Any deal for Pirlo?
Afro: Yes, im open to selling, want £10m.
Viva: How about my D !!!!!