Floyd Mayweather - Marvin Hagler - Some perspective !!!

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A few things to think about.........

1. No one questions Hagler's legacy..and he's a bonafide hero..

2. Mayweather gets Castillo chucked at him..........Hagler drew with Vito....lost twice pre-title and sneaked past a lightweight....

3. Mayweather gets marked down for Marquez and yet two of Hagler's biggest wins were Duran and Mugabi both moving up in weight..

4. Mayweather beat 4 current p4pers.......Marvin beat Hearns.........

5. Mayweather gets hammered for Manny...Hagler avoided a Hearns rematch..Who apparently didn't deserve a rematch even though it was the fight of the decade and he smashed out the WBA/WBC number 1 contender straight after.....

6. Hagler was at the top seven years..Floyd 15.............

All I'm suggesting is people need to remember things like this when judging Floyd......I rate Hagler very highly...I've met him and he's a good guy...

Herman Jaggery wrote:Fight of the decade???


Not sure about that myself, after the initial onslaught by Hearns, it was all one way traffic.  Blown up welterweight with suspect chin who hadn't grown into the weight, against a peaking Hagler?  It had Hagler win written all over it. You could tell Hagler knew he was going to win too.

So much for what Trussman calls the greatest boxer ever! Hagler got to him with ease.

Well If you're not sure..That's it then.

Build up of the decade, not fight of the decade.


Don't confuse the two Mr Keele polytechnic.

Seing as The ring and KO called it such and you weren't around then..

Please enter your replacement.

Couldn't be bothered.


Your mental masturbation bores me.


Better debate when you're not around ol' son.

Herman Jaggery wrote:Couldn't be bothered.


Your mental masturbation bores me.


Better debate when you're not around ol' son.

Dear oh dear,,,run a long...I promise I won't challenge you again...... ...

By the way Hearns-Hagler is in most top 10 fights of alltime lists........Feel free to check out sources on the internet..

At least tell me why you think Tommy is such a great boxer before you go off in a sulk.

Come on Trussy, you can do it.

Herman Jaggery wrote:At least tell me why you think Tommy is such a great boxer before you go off in a sulk.

Come on Trussy, you can do it.

Has to be a wind up, right?

Has what got to be a wind up?

Phenomenal power, one of the hardest fastest most accurate jabs of all time, lightning reflexes, great footspeed, freakish physical dimensions.

He had everything other than a chin.

World class jab, world class right cross.


Power started to drain after four rounds, diabolical chin.


Don't get me wrong, he's an all timer, and his fight with Roldan is one of my favourite fights. what is he anywhere from top 40 - 80.?


Just can't get my head around him being the greatest boxer eve. No not at all.

Herman Jaggery wrote:World class jab, world class right cross.


Power started to drain after four rounds, diabolical chin.


Don't get me wrong, he's an all timer, and his fight with Roldan is one of my favourite fights. what is he anywhere from top 40 - 80.?


Just can't get my head around him being the greatest boxer ever. No not at all.

Anybody say he was ??....what was your fight of the decade in the 80s..

Chacon-Limon IV
Arguello-Pryor I
Duran-Leonard I
Holyfield-Qawi

You did.


Didn't see anything till '85.


So can onlly comment 85 - 90.


Can't remember 88 - 90 so I'll go with Duran Barkley. Nip and tuck all the way, but the knock down learly secured it for Duran. Barkley rallied in the twelfth to sho he was anything but done, but the fight was already in the bank. That fight showed why 15 rounders need to come back.

All good fights.......all better than Duran-Barkley....

However all generally below Hagler-Hearns in most lists..It has to be said

Who cares about lists, make up your own mind, you seem controlled by what the writers of the 80's said and I have to admit one round does not make a fight.

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Who cares about lists, make up your own mind, you seem controlled by what the writers of the 80's said and I have to admit one round does not make a fight.

okay...........

I'll check those fights out Truss. Must admit I haven't seen any of them. Never even sat through the entire Leonard - Duran 1 yet, if you can believe that.

Herman Jaggery wrote:I'll check those fights out Truss. Must admit I haven't seen any of them. Never even sat through the entire Leonard - Duran 1 yet, if you can believe that.

I can..

Why?


Are you saying I'm the Richard Schaefer of 606?


Are you saying I know NOTHING about the sport of boxing?


Is that what you're saying?