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Squad size - 40
 
HK Guilhem Guirado (France)
HK Richard Hibbard (Wales)
HK Scott Spurling (England)
 
PR Alex Waller (England)
PR Mohamed Boughanmi (France)
PR Dylan Smith (South Africa)
PR Ben Franks (New Zealand)

PR Dan Cole (England)
PR Paul Hill (England)
PR Tomas Francis (England)
 
LK Sam Whitelock (New Zealand)
LK Ed Slater (England)
LK Geoff Parling (England)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
LK Patrick Tuipultou (New Zealand)
LK Marcos Kremer (Argentina) - 30/7/97

FL Akira Ioane (New Zealand)
FL James Haskell (England)
FL Guy Thompson (England)
FL Sam Underhill - 22/07/1996
FL John Hardie (Scotland)
FL Hamish Watson (Scotland)
 
N8 Dave Denton (Scotland)
N8 Nathan Hughes (England)
 
Current - 19
 
SH Baptiste Serin (France)
SH Morgan Parra (France)
SH Henry Taylor (England)
 
FH Nicolas Sanchez (Argentina)
FH Pat Lambie (South Africa)
FH Tom Taylor (New Zealand)

CE Sonny Bill Williams (New Zealand)
CE Francis Saili (New Zealand)
CE Ollie Devoto (England)
CE Rohan Janse van Rensburg (South Africa)
CE Lionel Mapoe (South Africa)
 
WG George North (Wales)
WG Nathan Earle (England)
WG Teddy Thomas (France)
WG Telusa Veainu (Tonga)
 
FB Stuart Hogg (Scotland)
FB Delon Armitage (England)
FB Aaron Morris (England)

Academy - 16
 
HK - James Fish - 15/07/96
LK - Nick Isiekwe - Saracens U18
LK - Jack Nay - 29/7/97
BS - Joe Batley - 27/06/96
BS - James Thacker - Saracens U18
OS - Ethan Waddleton - Saracens U18

SH/WG - Thomas Chapman - Can't locate but Saracens U20
SH Max Green - 13/06/96
FH Damian Willemse - 7/5/98
WG George Perkins - England U20
WG - Charlie Kingsman (Unknown. Sat his A Levels this year)
FH - Josh Sharp U18s
CE - Tyrese Johnson Fisher - 15yo
FB - Gervais Codin - 18yo
 
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
 

01. Alex Waller	09. Morgan Parra
02. Keven Mealamu	10. Morne Steyn
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Patricio Albacete	11. Juan Imhoff
05. Victor Matfield	12. Jonathan Davies
06. Thierry Dusatoir	13. Malakai Fekitoa
07. Heinrich Brussow	14. Chris Ashton
08. Dave Denton	15. Matt Tait

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16. Jamie George 17. Max Lahiff 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Flip van der Merwe 20. Nathan Hughes 21. Henry Taylor 22. Freddie Burns 23. Scott Williams
 
Tactics

Need to be good enough to start bud.

Hasn't Earle just broke his leg?

Yeah , i reckon he'll be Englands main man in 2/3 years. Legs are massive and takes 3 steps to Tuilagis 1.

Slipper, Messam and Cave
For
Barcella, Mowen and Bosch

All players I don't really wanna sell

Healy, Whitlock, SOB, Wade, North NFS
Ben T needs Cole or big gain elsewhere
Hill cannot see anything. Think he is incredible
Hogg maybe could go. Imhoff/Bosch/Williams/Fetikoa/Tait/Mermoz all interest me to varying degrees

Would need quite a gain elsewhere

Parra?

FDP in the deal?

I know how highly you rate FDP. And Whitlock is only leaving for someone also the best in the world in position. Parra is not the best scrum half and I'd go as far as to say most don't rate him top 5

What for Fekitoa, Horwill and Denton?

Sorry mate, I'll comeback when you lift your transfer embargo on me!

Couldn't lose Faletau at the moment sorry mate. 

I thought you might be tempted into losing Fekitoa with SBW coming back early. 

Let me know if you can think of something

They would be awesome, but I think you lose a little subtlety and control in your game with them paired together.

Wilson and Habana for Bosch and Cole?

When you say leave Cole out are you talking about a straight swap Bosch for Habana?

No interest in Shields mate.

Sorry but can't let Pocock go as he'll help me with the breakdown (if he ever gets fit again) and Gray is still academy and I wont be able to replace someone of his quality there - might look at the end of the season though as you've put a really good squad together!

JJ will need Cole, I think you know where we stand with the others?

Will be keen to sort a potential move for Horwill and a centre

I can't see any of who you listed involved at the minute as I would need direct replacements

Hmm, something around Steffon and Habana for Mowen and Bosch? Only issue there is I'm losing English, so would need to add some meat to the bones of that deal.

Can't see anything for Webber I'm afraid.

Depends what you are willing to lose. Both top Internationals so would need similar

Anything for Tom Taylor or Lambie?

How much you asking for? With FTD injured in real life, I figure I can't rely on him keeping form for many weeks!

Thanks chap, can we put it on domestics?

Depends on the deal mate

LLF needs Williams and a gain or Mermoz and big
Hogg needs Imhoff and big gain

Ozzy3213 wrote:Wilson and Habana for Bosch and Cole?

Do you mean this one?

Ok mate, thanks for the loan

Murray would need big. Faletau could be easier to deal on. 

Horwill, Brussow, Bosch, Fekitoa?

Toby would need an eight in return.

Denton?

Cole, Flip, Lambie, SBW

Thoughts on an offer?

Steffon and Nonu for SBW and ???

Jayzus, this could be the closest we've come to a deal for a very long time!!!

Not sure on the ???, ideally EQ but really need another back row (preferably an 8). Who would you consider adding that fits either of those criteria.

Would prefer Hughes to Beattie.

Ben Mowen?

Dave Denton?

Both of those are below the level of what I am losing mate.

So close, I genuinely thought we'd get there this time.

What do you mean by a little tweak?

I can't really see where the value is for me in letting any of them go, but by all means make an offer.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I was hoping you'd see something lol

SBW + Denton + ?

Nonu + Armitage + Habana/Yarde/TDT

TDT and Yarde are not available, Habana could be but would need real quality coming back my way.  Would have to involve Cole or Fekitoa.

Horwill and Denton, can we sort something?

I'm aware you're interested in Faletau

Will have a look when I get home from work later mate.

Possibly involved in a deal elsewhere mate so probably not.

As soon as I saw your backrow I had this one down as a loss - really powerful unit, surprised Clark isn't being given a start for England as he's our best player at the breakdown by some distance and Hughes is an absolute beast of a player, think he will go on and play for England as soon as he qualifies - watched him a few times this season and he's improving game after game - didn't think Sam Jones would quite cut it this week!

Will get back to you on the offer, just got called into a meeting.

Faletau + Douglas
=
Denton + Horwill

?

I'm going to hold off on any deals mate, not sure what I want to do with my squad right now.

Let's see what we can get done mate, am after either Horwill or Flip.