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Post by azumah HOF Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:41 pm

No 4 fight fans! No we ready! Money May 8 to 10 stoppage!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VAkbsuPV3zw&feature=m-ch-fea

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:42 pm

Stoppage..Can't see it old buddy..........

but a schooling If all is well...........and a shock tkoby11 If the well is dry....

Hope your okay...

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Post by azumah HOF Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:46 pm

All good Truss. you are right that the points Ud is the safe bet. But I sense something really special here. Think Floyd really does feel this is the ONE legacy wise. The fact he has had no inactivity between fights for this one to me is giving us a Floyd who looks razor sharp to me in training . Lets see!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:48 pm

Hope you're right or I'm in for a hard time on here.......Cool 

Harder than anything the Oyster has served me up over the years !!

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:49 pm

Floyd wide UD. Can't see him having the power to KO him

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:58 pm

Love Mayweather fight nights! Cannot wauit for the Matthysse v Garcia fight!

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Post by milkyboy Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:14 pm

Evening zoomy. Gonna drop by on anything other than a Floyd love in any time?

Floyd at a canter, unless Alvarez has pressure fighting skills he's kept well hidden.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:15 pm

Is it the same as number three, which was the first one I bothered to watch? I'd been hoping for something different from the norm, but again it could basically be condensed in to half an hour of Mayweather's opponent saying, "I'm not like anyone Mayweather has fought before, I'm going to shock the world" and Floyd saying "I have a lot of money and a shed load of cars and expensive jewellery."

Basically the same as any pre-fight feature ever made about Floyd by either HBO or Showtime.
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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:29 pm

It's an utterly pointless program, hoping that Alvarez pulls off the upset.

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Post by azumah HOF Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:36 pm

milkyboy wrote:Evening zoomy. Gonna drop by on anything other than a Floyd love in any time?

Floyd at a canter, unless Alvarez has pressure fighting skills he's kept well hidden.
I know Milky! I'm terrible! Lol

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:37 pm

Curiosity (or idiocy) got the better of me. Watched three minutes. The first minute was Alvarez's team telling everyone that a new era in boxing is coming. At sixty seconds, we got the first bit of wealth-based showing off by team Mayweather as one of his skanky, fake eyelash-wearing tarts went to collect half a million in cash for him so he could go shopping. The final minute included Floyd having a go at one of his 6'8", man-boobed personal security guards for having the temerity to walk out of a store after Floyd, rather than before.

I should have known better.

How can anyone like this 'Money May' persona? The man is boring beyond belief.
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Post by John Bloody Wayne Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:43 pm

As a boxing fan, chris, I RESPECT baldness.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:45 pm

Floyd really is dull isn't he

I know there are lots of laughs from his friends but it doesn't take much, you can tell they are trying so hard not to be just leeching off him

I hope Canelo wins, just so mayweather can think of something other than 44-0, but the smart money would be siding with a decision win for Floyd

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Post by BoxingFan88 Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:02 pm

Cheers dude Smile

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Post by Scottrff Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:15 pm

Stoppage is a massive call, don't see it myself.

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Post by titaniumjaw Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:34 pm

First time posting but flloyd by a wd.... Been reading all you guys posts for about 18months and finally got courage to join in

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Post by Liam Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:43 pm

His team are an embrassment as is he. Such a big headed buffoon, but obviously such a talented boxer. Alvarez is the man in my eyes. I think he's gonna cause Floyd allot of trouble saturday, whether he wins or not who knows. All I know is, I'll be rooting for Alvarez to smack the cockiness completely out of floyd and hopefully floor him.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:45 pm

Welcome aboard, titaniumjaw. Any problems, give either Trussman or Steffan a shout - they run this wing!
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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:51 pm

The best thing to see was that Mosley was very coherent and not slurring his words at all.

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Post by titaniumjaw Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:55 pm

Thanks Chris

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Post by titaniumjaw Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:56 pm

Liam the persona mayweather shows on all access is nothing like the real him just wants people to buy ppv to see him lose

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Post by milkyboy Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:06 am

... it's a convincing act though;)

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:12 am

Also, id disagree that steffan runs this wing. His latest inputs have been:

"Alvarez will lose"

Im sure he posted that on three different threads lol

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Post by tunes666 Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:14 am

I think in his last couple fights Alvarez has looked really good, I can see him at least giving Floyd as harder fight as Cotto...

Think this will be Floyds hardest fight and although I really cant see Floyd loosing a decision and Alvarez will need to KO Floyd to win I think. I think Floyd will win this but where many think Alvarez should have.

Maybe a bit of wishful thinking but just a hunch.


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Post by tunes666 Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:17 am

titaniumjaw wrote:Liam the persona mayweather shows on all access is nothing like the real him just wants people to buy ppv to see him lose
this may be the case and many boxers like to use this game.. But money also brings a PR machine that is aware that fans are important.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:23 am

One part of me hopes Floyd wins as he is one of the greats and to see him retire with his 0 would be something special. The other half wants to see the look on his face when he gets slapped around by a ginger kid. Don't mind either way as long as its a good fight. Smart money has to be on pbf on points. Don't think his hands will hold up long enough to stop him and he's not a one shot ko artist..

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Post by Lance Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:41 am

don't see any hope of flloyd stopping him. canelo with a crushing tko or flloyd by wide decision. cant see canelo dominating at all, but if he caught flloyd like mosley did I don't expect flloyd would be standing

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:19 am

Lance wrote:don't see any hope of flloyd stopping him. canelo with a crushing tko or flloyd by wide decision. cant see canelo dominating at all, but if he caught flloyd like mosley did I don't expect flloyd would be standing
I'm gonna put 2 bets on, the 1st is floyd by UD and the 2nd is Canelo by KO.

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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:37 am

i must admit i am leaning towards a late Stoppage for Mayweather

i think Canelo may tire and get frustrated, if he starts lunging in the later rounds then he is going to get caught.

though the sensible money is defo on a points WD

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:59 am

Very intrigued.

Alvarez, to be honest, looks in very good shape, looked good against trout (although for me it was very close), and has enough power to worry Floyd.

my only issue is his stamina. If this does not hold up, which it hasn't in the past, i can only see Canelo winning 2-3 rounds max before mayweather starts to pot shot him from round 4 on.

Saying that, if Alvarez can land solid combinations on the ropes and DOES land a shot, i think mayweather could be in a new world of trouble.

Either or, as it stands, in going for a Floyd UD. That will change tomorrow no doubt.

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:15 am

Alvarez KO, i've been owned by the hype.

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Post by titaniumjaw Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:49 pm

Although I like Alvarez I can only see a master class by flloyd wide ud

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Post by Rowley Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:56 pm

To be honest am not sure if this was at any weight below light middle (I know it is not strictly light middle before someone else points it out) I am not sure any of us would be giving Alvarez much of a chance as I just don’t see what he does well enough to trouble Floyd. Fights in spurts so is unlikely to win on pressure, hits respectably enough but is not exactly a huge puncher and sure as hell ain’t outboxing Floyd any time soon, also does not possess the kind of reach of a Paul Williams to try and keep things outside and win that way.

However for all that Floyd has never looked 100% convincing north of 147. Whilst I thought he beat Oscar better than the cards reflected there were moments when he appeared to spend longer on the ropes than he wanted and Oscar did have his moments, similarly against Cotto he got caught far more than would normally be the case. Still cannot see anything other than a Floyd win but there will always be that little element of doubt every time he is beyond welter.

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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:09 pm

How would you see Oscar Faring against Canelo Rowley

i personally would see Oscar dancing around him to a wide UD

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:09 pm

You just have to see the Canelo v Mosley fight to see how Floyd will win this 1. I think Canelo will crumble in the face of the magnitude of this fight.

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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:10 pm

Ill caveat that with the Oscar against Flloyd

not the cross dressing Oscar currently in rehab! Smile

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Post by Rowley Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:12 pm

Oscar should win but he does have an annoying way of finding ways to lose big fights. Think he should outbox Canelo but if Canelo fights at a bit higher tempo than he usually does Oscar's ability to fade down the stretch could potentially be his achilles heel again.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:14 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Curiosity (or idiocy) got the better of me. Watched three minutes. The first minute was Alvarez's team telling everyone that a new era in boxing is coming. At sixty seconds, we got the first bit of wealth-based showing off by team Mayweather as one of his skanky, fake eyelash-wearing tarts went to collect half a million in cash for him so he could go shopping. The final minute included Floyd having a go at one of his 6'8", man-boobed personal security guards for having the temerity to walk out of a store after Floyd, rather than before. I should have known better.

How can anyone like this 'Money May' persona? The man is boring beyond belief.
You'd pay good money to watch one of these goons turn round and lamp the little frigtard

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:15 pm

Floyd's lifestyle inspires me.

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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:15 pm

Fair one i guess and i know styles make fights and all but as for the weight being wrong for Mayweather i think that the Oscar fight is as good a barometer as anything else to show how mayweather deals with it.

willing to be wrong, as my betting account often shows! But i think FMJ does this inside the 12

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:16 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Floyd's lifestyle inspires me.
Aye, he's a massive ***t as well

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:18 pm

Can't see Mayweather stopping Canelo by pot shotting, and he doesn't throw combo's so it's either one shot doing it or a decision

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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:42 pm

i can see him rocking him as Canelo tires about 10th round and then following up WHU

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:42 pm

Don't know mate, the 8th round against Guerrero he really openend up and nearly stopped him had it not been for his hands. Mixed up the body shots and smashed countless right hands and left hooks to the grid. Robert looked dazed and was on the retreat.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:54 pm

Yea but he failed to follow it up, it wasn't his hand (he had injured it earlier seemingly), it's that he knew he had him beat so coasted, as he does most fights

He could have taken out JMM and Cotto had he thrown more punches, but that's not floyd

Anyway Canelo is not Guerrero. He's a natural lightmiddle whereas Guerrero had to beef up to be a welter hence which slowed down his legs why he turned into a brawler/in-fighter whereas he used to be a boxer

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Post by Boxtthis Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:17 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Curiosity (or idiocy) got the better of me. Watched three minutes. The first minute was Alvarez's team telling everyone that a new era in boxing is coming. At sixty seconds, we got the first bit of wealth-based showing off by team Mayweather as one of his skanky, fake eyelash-wearing tarts went to collect half a million in cash for him so he could go shopping. The final minute included Floyd having a go at one of his 6'8", man-boobed personal security guards for having the temerity to walk out of a store after Floyd, rather than before.

I should have known better.

How can anyone like this 'Money May' persona? The man is boring beyond belief.
And it's the same every time he fights. Four episodes of the same stuff every time he fights! Persona or not, all the cash-worshiping and the seeming lack of ability to value anything of substance is a horrible message to send. But, you just need to take what is a rather painful read through some youtube comments on a Mayweather video to see that many young people lap it up.

For me, if it's a persona, it's boring. If it's his real attitude, it's boring. If it's a mix of the two, it's boring. I reason I watch him fight is because he's the best boxer of this generation.

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Post by jimdig Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Does anyone have a realistic idea of the impact of Canelo making 152lb's? How drained would he be in the last few weeks of training? He was 157lb at the 7 day I think, is he drained at 157, if he's a 170lb guy? Would he have been focused on cutting weight 3/4 weeks out? would his calorific intake be so drastically reduced to impact him in sparring?

The last week is generally a case of just ticking over, resting, fine tuning and staying at peak fitness while making weight, that much I understand, but in Canelo's case how much would making weight effect performance. Anyone got any factually based idea? For the record I didn't think he looked healthy, I thought he had a Ricky Hatton (later version) look about him. He'll rehydrate huge, i'm not so sure he'll get his strength and more importantly stamina back.

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Post by YDKSAB Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:07 pm

TMT totally PWNED team CANELO with the weight!! Money was willing to go to 154 but made Canelo management DROP weight. Now its MESSING with Canelos head before the fight because he knows he got PLAYED!!!

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Post by OasisBFC Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:50 pm

i've never known an entourage being so arse licking as his.
they do nothing other than hang on his every word and blow smoke up his backside in a hope of basking in some reflective glory....and to get some £50,000 watches...

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