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Post by Valero's Conscience Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:22

What moments in the ring should never be forgiven.

The most famous are Tyson's ear munching and Duran no mas.

Without wanting to mention all the obvious ones I would like to add Montell Griffin in the first Jones Jr fight. He took the easy way out when being hit lightly by Jones when down and won on a DQ. Luckily Jones Jr ran through him in a round in a rematch.

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Post by Strongback Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:28

Dirrell vs Abraham was also suspect.

Roger Tilleman.


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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:32

Luis Resto and Billy Collins Jr.

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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:35

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Post by BoxingFan88 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:42

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Everytime I watch that it makes my blood boil.

Disgusting behaviour.

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 13:43

My reading of the NO MAS incident is that Duran's sense of machismo was so offended by Leonard's fooling around and showboating that he said "I don't want to fight this clown no more" not that he quit through being humiliated.

Duran was a fighter and didn't think there was a place in the ring for that sort of stuff.

So I'd also vote for excessive clowning, showboating, preening and efforts to humiliate an opponent by a fighter.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:03

Didn't that Butler guy go on to kill Max Kellermans brother?

Disgusting excuse for a human.

Didn't like Direll vs Abraham.

Also didn't like Ortiz headbuttinv Floyd and pacman punching JMM when he was on the deck in their first fight.

Lack of sportsmanship in general.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:05

Disagree Dave, Leonard was making him look very very poor. Outboxing him and genuinely humiliating him. Duran quit because he didn't want to look a complete mug in terms of boxing ability...and just in general really.

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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:16

Ref clearly takes a dive. Inexcusable.



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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:26

Tyson Fury uppercutting himself how was he ever goiing to defend that, bit of a cheap shot really!

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Post by Rowley Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:26

8 posts and nobody has done a tortuous joke about "rings" yet. Well done all round.

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Post by Lance Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:28

Mccloskey sucker punching that Italian guy was absolutely classless and so was the commentators reaction to it.

Cleverly goin over to taunt Murat after the doctor had just pulled him out showed his true character too

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:30

We'll leave that one up to you Rowley

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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:32

Q: What are the three rings of marriage?

A: The engagement ring, the wedding ring and the suffering.
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Post by Rowley Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:33

sohotnot wrote:We'll leave that one up to you Rowley
I'm way too classy to do it mate. Give it time though am sure someone will oblige.

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:34

With hindsight letting Spinks in with Tyson

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Post by kingraf Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:38

Its taken a lot of mental fortitude to go through this thread and not type "Adrienne Broner"
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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:39

STC wrote:Ref clearly takes a dive. Inexcusable.



So obvious when refs are paid off and are looking for any excuse to stop a fighter.

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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:43

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
STC wrote:Ref clearly takes a dive. Inexcusable.



So obvious when refs are paid off and are looking for any excuse to stop a fighter.
I like how the ref s***s himself and then takes a dive that Ashley Young would be proud of, then when everybody crowds around Sprott the ref jumps up and starts giving it large.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:46

BoxingFan88 wrote:
STC wrote:
Spoiler:
Everytime I watch that it makes my blood boil.

Disgusting behaviour.
He later shot Max Kellerman's brother, didn't he?

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:50

kingraf wrote:Its taken a lot of mental fortitude to go through this thread and not type "Adrienne Broner"
He's basically ok until the fights over and he opens his mouth

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:50

Technically 'outside the ring' by a yard or so, but the German timekeeper in a recent Danny Williams (I think, may have been Sprott or someone similar) fight over their ringing the bell with a minute to go in the round and the local German homeboy getting a spanking.

Disgraceful.

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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:50

TopHat24/7 wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:
STC wrote:
Spoiler:
Everytime I watch that it makes my blood boil.

Disgusting behaviour.
He later shot Max Kellerman's brother, didn't he?
I believe that he smashed his head in with a hammer.

Nice guy.
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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:53

Ian John-Lewis panicking and stopping the first Enzo/McKenzie fight way too early.
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Post by Valero's Conscience Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:53

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
STC wrote:Ref clearly takes a dive. Inexcusable.



So obvious when refs are paid off and are looking for any excuse to stop a fighter.
The ref deserved his own KO for that! Sometimes refs are harshly criticised but this one was defiantly on someone's payroll, shocking. The way he went down from a slight push is embarrassing. Reminds me of Di canio pushing the ref!

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 14:54

Ian John-Lewis in the ring full stop

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:04

Golota against Bowe deliberately,hitting Bowe low, time and time again in a fight he was arguably winning what a clown.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:10

I would go with 'comfortably' rather than 'arguably'. Really exposed the Bowe myth those nights.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:11

DAVE667 wrote:My reading of the NO MAS incident is that Duran's sense of machismo was so offended by Leonard's fooling around and showboating that he said "I don't want to fight this clown no more" not that he quit through being humiliated.

Duran was a fighter and didn't think there was a place in the ring for that sort of stuff.

So I'd also vote for excessive clowning, showboating, preening and efforts to humiliate an opponent by a fighter.
This absolute TOSH

Duran quit because he was getting jabbed time and time again without being able to land ANYTHING of his own. It has nothing to do with his machismo, he was out boxed pure and simple....


...and thats that.

I thought TRUSS and I had put this naughty baby to bed already.

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Post by milkyboy Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:15

Rowley wrote:8 posts and nobody has done a tortuous joke about "rings" yet. Well done all round.
It was tough Jeff, but I'm trying to reform

Jim Watt's Glaswegian kiss on Sean o'grady was poor.

And as it came up earlier, dariusz michalczewski's dramatics against rochigianni

I'm assuming the earlier roger tillerman comment was aimed at ottke Reid... Which should top any worst/ most bent ref performance chart

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:19

Wonder what would've happened if there'd been a rubber and SRL had faced a proper fit and sharp Duran like first time round rather than a fat half-drunk podge in the middle of party season..........?

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:24

TopHat24/7 wrote:I would go with 'comfortably' rather than 'arguably'.  Really exposed the Bowe myth those nights.
Yep was well ahead on my card,the way Golota threw it away, somebody must have been hitting him in the head with the ice bucket in between rounds idiotic display.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:31

Ring riots are embarissing for the sport.....but damn entertaining.

Mayweather v Judah was a absolute disgrace but Bowe v Golota has to be tops.

Lou Duva almost died you know.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:38

Prescott knocking out Khan on his PPV debut
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Post by STC Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:42

Tony Thompson stripping down to his Y-fronts at the end of the Pulev fight.
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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:45

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Prescott knocking out Khan on his PPV debut
Great times.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:50

You trying to get Az back or something???

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Thu 31 Oct 2013, 16:15

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Thought of this as soon as I read the topic. Someone showed me this video the other day talking about it being some hilarious blooper... despicable.

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Post by bhb001 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 16:23

Chisora spitting water in Wlad's face before his fight with Vitali. Technically in the ring and no excuse for such behaviour. Mind you, having your brother in the ring to intimidate the opposition is pretty poor showing as well!! Actually shows a weakness as an over reliance on mind games hides insecurity in your own performance (or other such psychobabble).

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Post by Strongback Thu 31 Oct 2013, 16:26

TopHat24/7 wrote:You trying to get Az back or something???

Did he ever really leave?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 Oct 2013, 16:47

Haven't seen him around since I got back from hols so assumed he'd been banished again......

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Oct 2013, 17:22

Seems a lot have been banished of recent or maybe the wums have chosen to go elsewhere, they've kind of got a forum shelf life really.

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Thu 31 Oct 2013, 20:36

This probably isn't "inexcusable" but Broner kicking Malignaggi made my blood pressure hit new heights

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:16

BallchinianMuffwig wrote:This probably isn't "inexcusable" but Broner kicking Malignaggi made my blood pressure hit new heights
Because he kicked or because the ref saved his '0' by refusing to punish him?

If that fight had been ref'd properly/fairly Paulie would've won.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 11:45

TopHat24/7 wrote:
BallchinianMuffwig wrote:This probably isn't "inexcusable" but Broner kicking Malignaggi made my blood pressure hit new heights
Because he kicked or because the ref saved his '0' by refusing to punish him?

If that fight had been ref'd properly/fairly Paulie would've won.

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked 

What happened?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 11:49

Did you not watch the fight mm8?

Broner could've had 2 or 3 points deducted for various dirty tactics like elbows and knees/kicks. Which, if correctly identified and punished by the ref, would've switched the scorecards to an SD in favour of Paulie rather than Broner.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 12:20

Didn't watch it mate no. Couldn't even find highlights!

Sounds bad though, and maybe it could bring up an argument regarding the refs truss started the other day.


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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 14:32

mobilemaster8 wrote:Didn't watch it mate no. Couldn't even find highlights!

Sounds bad though, and maybe it could bring up an argument regarding the refs truss started the other day.

That'd would've been way more hassle than it was worth. You know how hyper-sensitive Truss is, especially about one of his pet fighters (Broner, in this case). If you say anything negative about him or that fight then the toys all fly out the pram and I end up getting reported to the Mods.

But yeh, basically, re-checking the scorecards, 2 docked points (which would've been fair) would've left it as one scorecard each and one drawn. If 3 points had been deducted (Khan-LP levels of harsh) then Paulie would've taken the SD.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 14:40

Fair point Toppy haha.

Saying that he is away for the next week if memory serves so fire away.

So a draw would have been a more appropriate score? Wouldn't have thought so given Broners post fight interviews etc.

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Post by Guest Fri 01 Nov 2013, 14:42

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:My reading of the NO MAS incident is that Duran's sense of machismo was so offended by Leonard's fooling around and showboating that he said "I don't want to fight this clown no more" not that he quit through being humiliated.

Duran was a fighter and didn't think there was a place in the ring for that sort of stuff.

So I'd also vote for excessive clowning, showboating, preening and efforts to humiliate an opponent by a fighter.
This absolute TOSH
Duran quit because he was getting jabbed time and time again without being able to land ANYTHING of his own. It has nothing to do with his machismo, he was out boxed pure and simple....


...and thats that.

I thought TRUSS and I had put this naughty baby to bed already.
I believe it may be an opinion offered in "Four Kings" which, although doesn't automatically "make it so", would suggest it comes from a more reliable source that just me spouting off.

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