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INFORMATION
Old Site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A84388378
Head Coach: Bathite
Forwards Coach: Danny Grewcock
Backs Coach: Mike Catt

FIXTURES

Heineken: Finished 2nd in Group
1. Ospreys (A) 25-18 (L)
2. Clermont (H) 29-20 (W)
2nd in Group - Challenge Cup

Challenge Cup: Winner
Semi-Final: Leinster (N) 30-31 (W)
Final: Stade Francais (N) 21-30 (W)

Knockout Cup: 1st Round Loss
1st Round. Highlanders (A) 25-22 (L)

League: 4th
Record: P22 W13 D3 L6
1. Leinster (A) 26-19 (L)
2. Northampton (H) 23-22 (W)
3. Ospreys (A) 32-19 (L)
4. Toulouse (A) 30-16 (L)
5. Highlanders (H) 22-24 (L) LBP
6. Stade (A) 22-22 (D)
7. Toulon (H) 28-17 (W)
8. Bath (A) 28-26 (W)
9. Biarritz (H) 31-23 (W) WBP
10. Clermont (A) 19-31 (W) WBP
11. Leicester (H) 27-20 (W)
12. Leinster (H) 30-22 (W) WBP
13. Northampton (A) 33-20 (W) WBP
14. Ospreys (H) 29-29 (D)
15. Toulouse (H) 25-28 (L) LBP
16. Highlanders (A) 27-25 (L) LBP
17. Stade (H) 31-22 (W) WBP
18. Toulon (A) 19-33 (W) WBP
19. Bath (H) 32-22 (W) WBP
20. Biarritz (A) 21-27 (W)
21. Clermont (H) 20-0 (W)
22. Leicester (A) 23-23 (D)



MATCHDAY

Position	Strongest Squad
1	S.Tonga'uia
2	B.Du Plessis
3	O.Franks
4	L.Nallet
5	P.Albacete
6	R.Elsom
7	S.Burger
8	S.Parisse
9	J.Cowan
10	N.Evans
11	H.Gear
12	M.Nonu
13	J.Fourie
14	D.Mitchell
15	I.Toeava
16	R.Roncero
17	P.Dixon
18	R.M-Chluski
19	M.Bergamasco
20	R.Wigglesworth
21	B.James
22	C.Heymans

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

Hookers: 2
Props: 5
Lock: 4
Back Row: 7
Half Backs: 4
Centres: 3
Back Three: 5
Squad Size: 29 (29 Available)

Forwards

Name	Position	Nationality	Squad Status	Value
Soane Tonga'uia	LH	Tonga	Key Player
Rodrigo Roncero	LH	Arg	First Team
Wyatt Crockett	LH	NZ	First Team
Owen Franks	TH/LH	NZ	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Matt Stevens	TH/LH	Eng	First Team	INJ
Bismarck Du Plessis	HK	SA	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Pieter Dixon	HK	Zimb	Back Up	£10m
Lionel Nallet	LK	France	Key Player
Patricio Albacete	LK	Argentina	Key Player
Romain Millo-Chluski	LK	France	First Team
Julien Pierre	LK	France	Rotation
Rocky Elsom	BS/N8	Australia	Invaluable
Schalk Burger	OS/BS/N8	SA	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Sergio Parisse	N8	Italy	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Mirco Bergamasco	OS/BS	Italy	First Team
Wycliff Palu	N8/BS	Australia	First Team
Thomas Waldrom	N8/BS	NZ	Rotation	£18m
Matt Todd	OS/BS	NZ	Rotation

Backs

Name	Position	Nationality	Squad Status	Value
Jimmy Cowan	SH	NZ	Key Player
Richard Wigglesworth	SH	England	First Team	£14m
Nick Evans	FH	NZ	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Butch James	FH/IC	SA	Rotation
Ma'a Nonu	IC/OC/WG	NZ	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Jacque Fourie	OC/IC/WG	SA	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Brad Barritt	IC	England	Rotation
Hosea Gear	WG	NZ	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Drew Mitchell	WG/FB	Aus	Invaluable	Not For Sale
Isaia Toeava	FB/WG/OC	NZ	Key Player
Cedric Heymans	WG/FB	France	First Team
Ben Smith	FB/WG	NZ	First Team

INJURIES
Ma'a Nonu HEALED
Rocky Elsom HEALED
Matt Stevens

FINANCES
Budget: £5m

could possibly do barritt or twelvetrees instead of myler - problem with Stevens is he MAY go to the WC, think he has an aweful lot to proove with the saxons over the next month or so, especially with Cole, Corbs, Wilson, Payne, and even Belly about!!

have a think mate

I would do Rocky & Barritt
but for
Alberts, strettles and Stevens

I won't even look at another offer from another manager if you consider . . . have seen a decent one come in as well

I dont think Stevens ticket is secure as you think mate. If he doesn't perfom over the next few weeks then he's not going, I don't like Payne either but he's been tried and tested more recently than Stevens if 5 go you might well be looking at

Sheridan, Cole, Corbiserio, Wilson, certainly Marler before stevens but then Dorian Jones, Payne maybe - stevens is no doubt pushing for a place but bo guarantee

anyway I see you point though.

Elsom, Myler & Day
for
Alberts strettle & stevens

thats about as far as I can go . . .

inquiry - I am sure htere is a deal we can do for ELsom for you . . .

ok no probs understand you don't want to loose him.

agree about PJD I think he might move to get first team games and keep his england chances alive . . . bath front row maybe?? we are loosing quite a few players this season!

ok lets see what we can do mate.

I had my eye on a prop in foriegns but don't have the cash to get him was thinking CJ van der linde can cover both sides, would be a great replacement prop.

as for Elsom we will probably be able to eek something out?

what about (this is speculative)

Elsom, Day, Twelvetrees
for
Alberts, Bekker, Strettle

total shot in the dark inquiry feel free to shoot me down . . . am still trying alternatives for an Elsom deal feel free to send soemthing back

errr also how would you like the French combo in the engine room of Nallett & Thion?? I tried all last year to get that combo, think Pull had it in the end and it was rated very highly?

So therefore I could possibly include Thion in a deal?

Thion, Elsom & twelvetrees
for
Alberts, Strettle, bekker

?

right going to leave it there as there for today are way to many options! lets see what happens tomorrow as well!

Appreciate your work with Clermont mate.

Sorry if you were in the middle of negoiations with other managers for them, hopefully they can continue with Blogs.

hmmmwe seem to be getting somewhere . . .

am desperte for a cover winger though and think strettle would be a good cover.
I have Barritt or Twelvetrees to add if you can add strettle to the deal?

Bekker + Alberts + Strettle
for
Thion + Elsom + Barrit or Twelvetrees?/

inquiry

looks like we are getting there though!

hmm think the problem we have is we both think the deal is slightly out of favour the other way lol

I thought the above one was ok - I couldn't add £10 mil to it as thats way too much in my opinion.

the dixon 4 hore is such a massive divide whereas barritt for twelve trees for strettle isn't that big a difference BUT i see your point as well!

now I can't do any front row as I am short so dixon hore is out anyway - hmm

at a push I would take Henson off your hands maybe or do

halfpenny & Barritt/Twelvetrees for Henson & strettle as part of a deal.

I am happy to use
Alberts & Bekker
for
Elsom & Thion as the opening part with that tagged on maybe?

whats your thoughts on that?

cool dude am enjoying the bartering!!!

ooo hello your back!

if you can stretch to that then great - I think the cash I can't quite do you keep saying your down on 3 deals - I don't see it that way lol

with Henson out in the cold and posisbly no club to go to he's not in favour with many at all due to his attitude so would be a risk.

if you want to do the

Elsom + Thion + Strettle + Henson
4
Alberts + Bekker + Barritt + Twelvetrees

deal then coolI will do it but I really cant stretch to cash as I need my foreign deal togo through sorry bud.

let me know ok

ok think we are at an impass here and the deal is decent enough for both of us.
would prefer barrit & twelvetrees for Strettle & henson but good bartering man

ok lets deal on

Elsom, Thion, Barritt + Halfpenny
for
Alberts, Bekker, Strettle + Henson

that does give you an awesome engine room with Nallett and Thion!

lets deal that then

nice one!!
will go and approve it.

everyone seems to thin you have taken me to the cleaners on the Elsom deal you swine lol

Yer. I offered it to you slightly different I think but still great for me.

I know Jane + Beale + Ashton are all top 5 in there position.

I know. Last year about four weeks from the end he sold Ashton for £24m. Maybe at the start of the season thats good but that late :s

Hello bathite

Burger & Maitland & Thion
4
Ouedraego & Visser & Williams

Thank you

Enquiry...

Cowan + Kahui

for

Mathewson + Mapasua

Clermont

Sorry bathite I see you marked Burger as not for sale.

Burger & Maitland & Thion
4
Ouedraego & Visser & Williams

You can forget that offer then, didn't see not for sale next to Burger's name. Also fingers crossed im trying to do something that im keeping underwrapped might be rated on here but then again it might not, any guesses to what I have in store?

Alright mate, I'm interested in Kahui and Halfpenny. Would you consider;

Lobbe + Bonnaire + Roberts + Heymans
=
Waldrom + Elsom + Kahui + Halfpenny

Enq

Thanks for that mate. I will change Carriza but Fluxy paid to heal Dan Cole

Cheers Bathite. Sorry it was a bit of a shambles this week - I did the page last week and there were a flurry of transfers changing all the sides!

Do you want me to do results this week or can you do them?

dude - would you private message me the html for your page - I think it looks the business and it also gives good info about costs etc . . .

ok cool - thanks for the advice - think I have someone in mind then for prop - although would love the deal I put to driver to go through - that would be imense!!

I also need another second row but think RYan Jones can cover injury there?

yeah was thinking of Marler but I have another old favourite of mine which I will try and get in if I can afford him! can cover both sides and hooker!!!

nope niether of them
have to go now catch you guys later

I have no idea what you have up your sleeve to be honest mate! But its great to see so much activity. Rowley can be a real pain, but he is keen, can't fault that and it seems BANAFAN is also lively.

Where you looking to improve now?

I have something up my sleeve which might be appealing but will take a lot of work and time, yesterday this game was beaming with activity and it's good to see a full set of managers very pleasing indeed.

Im looking to improve at centre and 14, but im really looking at Maitland. It's a very tricky sitution you have a New Zealand back line yourself from 9-15 while I want Maitland because I have Guildford on the other wing.

You also have Halfpenny who is a very good player and would start for most teams it's just a question of, are you willing to start Halfpenny and surrender your New Zealand back line?. Before I go back to college work I will give you this.

Maitland & Cowan
4
Davies or Evans & Kelleher

Maitland on form, but Davies is a very good player and you like Evans plus Evans can start 13 and wing, Cowan is currently in the international fold but some might say Kelleher is the better player both from New Zealand though.

Thank you

Didn't see you had Fourie, Fourie, Nonu, Kahui

I really could do with Maitland, and willing to give you Kelleher everybody rates him better than Cowan also he was in most people's top fives if I look back.

Cowan & Maitland
4
Kelleher & Evans

That's all I can see at the moment, Evans would come in for Maitland as cover while Kelleher will be an improvement at 9, and you still have your New Zealand half back pairing, Kelleher and Evans would be quality and experienced. While I will be happy aswell with Maitland and Guildford on my wings.

9.Kelleher
10.Evans
11.Gear
12.Nonu
13.Fourie
14.Halfpenny
15.Toeava

That looks very impressive, with Max.Evans, Kahui and Barritt as back up.

I was looking back on the top 10's on the actual 606 earlier, Kelleher was top five in most people's top 10's bar one being Steven_Sharks.

Cowan was about 9th-10th or not even in some of the lists.

Evans isn't going to be playing for New Zealand either, while Kelleher you can see for yourself is better rated than Cowan surely you want a highly rated player in your side. Kelleher with Nick Evans would be an amazing experienced combination.

Kelleher & Evans
4
Cowan & Maitland

Works out for us both, it really does improve you at 9 and Maitland improves my wing. You sure you don't fancy it I think it is good, maybe you want to get other people's views?

Ok im really looking to be busy in the next couple of days, if your not keen on Kelleher for Cowan that's fine.

Maitland, Waldrom and Toeava are three players im really interested in.

Brown, Lund, Evans, Visser, Poitrenaud can be swapped, Poitrenaud very good player can play centre now of course, you rate Evans and Brown is a very good 6.

Toeava & Waldrom & Lambie
4
Poitrenaud & Brown & Kahui

?

Getting a bit mixed up with the above not set it out well.

Toeava & Waldrom & Kahui
4
Poitrenaud & Brown & Lambie

There we go, what do you think?

Ok not what I wanted to hear lol but have to take it and accept your views.

Toeava, Maitland, Kahui, Waldrom im interested in, Nonu, Evans are not for sale and strangely you don't want to deal Kelleher 4 Cowan but it's your decision.

Anything involving Toeava, Waldrom, Maitland and Kahui would be good and would help me on my long mission. You have said yourself you think I have done well so far, but I want to step it up a gear like you have done.

Just a little help by my friends wouldn't go a miss, you are going to get decent players in return of course.

What do you say?

ok well cash offers at the moment let me know what you think. I may go for players as well. let me know who or what your willing to deal.
cheers

Thank you Bathite, have you guessed what im trying to achieve yet?

I guess so it has been hectic the past two days.

I have deals to 207, Pooly and Pull. Hon getting back to me soon.

Anything with Cowan, Toeava, Maitland, Kahui or Waldrom im interested, also Nonu and Evans interest me but you don't want to sell them.

Just make a starter deal if you want using any of those players, get your thinking cap on mate lol.

Thank you

Ok then I think these could well suit us both, and I have tried to include players you want.

Toeava & Maitland
4
Poitrenaud & Lambie

2nd deal
Waldrom & Gear & Maitland
4
Brown & Guildford & Lambie

3rd deal
Toeava & Kahui & Cowan
4
Poitrenaud & Lambie & Kelleher & 5 million

Thank you

My mission can be scrapped then, tried but failed.

No way lol.

Gear & Maitland
4
Guildford & Lambie

Best I can see, Gear is amazing but Guildford has been impressive this season, Lambie better than Maitland and you said you wanted him and that Maitland can go.

Im going to still try my task, but I think im going to fail.

Gear & Maitland
4
Guildford & Lambie

I guess your not interested in that, Gear not for sale at all?

I don't remember. But you just twice maybe three times made me think please don't do that and you did. :L don't worry mate I done some stinkers in my first season :L

mate sorry - think I will leave that deal - trying to get my head round what to do.

would you be interested in Andrew Hore??
I would be looking for 2nd row or a back in return?

ok so your after Slade.
see why you offer £13 but thats a bit cheap for me and I really have no options there except traille & Henson . . .

if you can come up with an offer then by all means - maybe player and less cash?

who have you got you want to include in a deal?

plus remember how nice I have been in the deals so far lol

Joubert is a fine player but I have enough back rows - if loosing Slade I would def need a back to come in - what do you think?

Dowson + Slade + Day
for
Jones + Halfpenny + Cash

can't belive I am putting in a return offer for an old player!!

inquiry?

understand where your coming from mate - I just can't let him go and not get someone in.

As for squad size, when I used to play this game I liked to have lots of cover for injuries. Nearly a full squad when I had Bath a few seasons back!!

let me see if I can get myself sorted and I will come back to you - the other problem is Slade covers many positions!

yeah FH WG FB CN = pretty bloody versatile! and he's going to be a top draw player!

it's got to be a deal with halfpenny really - which sucks as I have sent him to you already and any deal with him looses me value in the long run !

considering how good I have been to you so far, think its time for a bit of return on the ELsom deal lol

no fib = was going to release him but hten loosing halfpenny, Barritt and decided that I need to keep hold of some backs for now - if I get a deal on another decent FH then would consider moving him on but he's probably too valuable to me at the mo - sorry to messed you about!

Would you be interested in Kearney 4 Toeava & something else?