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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:16 pm

Predictions for the big fight tonight?

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Post by spencerclarke Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:53 pm

Bradley by decision, reasonably comfortable.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:56 pm

I'm going for a manny victory by UD or TKO

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 12 Apr 2014, 5:58 pm

Putting £180 on Manny to win by a Decision and for Beltran to win by KO get around £2100 back.

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Post by spencerclarke Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:00 pm

Jeez Alex you have some balls!

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Post by 88Chris05 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 6:17 pm

Bradley UD for me, but I think it's a very open fight. Took yet another look at the first fight the other day, and while a lot was made of Pacquiao being a little off-form that night compared to his form a few fights beforehand (and I don't disagree with that), I'm even more convinced now that Bradley wasn't anywhere near his best, either. Regardless of who wins tonight, I think it'll be a much better spectacle and we'll see a higher general quality in the action.

Pacquiao's head was there all night, in front of Bradley, not moving and open to the jab in that fight - it was begging for Bradley to start throwing the jab with real venom and I don't think Pacquiao would have coped well had he done so....But he didn't. Instead Bradley put a lot of emphasis on moving away from Pacquiao's left and making him miss. He did a decent job of that, I thought, but he's a smart fighter so I'd expect him and Diaz to have taken that mistake in to account and will have looked at making sure he's sitting down on his jabs and counters a bit more like he did against Marquez.

In the first fight, there were a hell of a lot of rounds where Pacquiao just didn't go to work in the first sixty, sometimes even ninety seconds. Likewise, I can't see him and Roach falling in to that trap again or failing to address it in the rematch. I think Pacquiao can take the initiative and put himself in a strong position if he makes his hand speed advantage count early on (when speed has its greatest advantage over timing) and get Bradley's attention with his superior power inside the first couple of rounds or so. He didn't do this in the first fight, for me, and if he doesn't give Bradley a reminder that he's the puncher in there and that he's the one with blurred gloves then I think he'll have problems as Bradley settles in to a rhythm and starts setting traps for him.

Very excited about it. Will stick with Bradley by decision for now - my biggest hope is that, whoever wins, there's no controversy. I just want one of them to win, win well, and then we can move on from the cloud which hangs over that first fight.
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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:04 pm

Just started over on Boxnation. A couple of early results, Eddie Chambers stopped Moses Matovu in the first round who was a late step in after Ian Lewison picked up an injury, just the fourth time Matovu has been stopped in 40 defeats. David Price won in Germany beating Pala via a 3rd TKO, however Price was down in the first round.


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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:05 pm

I'm excited to see what Manny has left.

Here's the weigh in for anyone that's interested. Both looked ripped.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:12 pm

Bradley does not look at all natural to me.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:17 pm

I'm so excited about this fight, I love the atmosphere and the build up around mayweather and pacquio fights.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 7:38 pm

Here's the Price fight from earlier, the knockdown is certainly questionable, looks like it's the wrist that hits the side of the head but the actual glove hits him round the back.


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Post by Strongback Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:05 pm

I'd take a lot of positives out of that performance from Price. He looked confident and was moving a lot better than he ever did in the past. He's also learned how to cover up and spoil.

The knockdown shot he got hit with was illegal but Price still showed his fragility in going down, he doesn't react well to a shot behind the ear. The positive to take from it was he didn't panic and kept trying to work behind the jab.

What we've always known is that Price has crazy power. When he connects with a big right the other guy doesn't get back up.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:08 pm

Wasn't really a hard shot he went down to by the looks of it. It kinda cuffed/pushed him. No real reason for his right hand to be floating down where it was though.

He's got some power in that right hand of his.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:18 pm

Skeete looks like he started off determined to improve his KO % - seems to have settled down a touch now.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:18 pm

His trainer gave him a bit of a dressing down then for trying to put a show on, certainly trying to stop this guy though.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:27 pm

Skeete has a very good jab and a decent range of punches, just a shame he doesn't have power. Some of the shots he's landed tonight have been pretty flush.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:30 pm

He's looking slick now. That jab is snappy. I think he might get a late stoppage.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:31 pm

Had a quick look and Chavez JR got him out of there in 9 a few years ago, a stoppage is a good result.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:33 pm

I haven't seen too much of him in the past. Everything is coming off the left hand - jabs and lead hooks. Pretty unusual for him not to be throwing the power hand. He's very slick though. He's beating this guy up.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:36 pm

Good stoppage that, not sure why he's moaning and doing press ups, instead of that he should have thrown back.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:39 pm

Maybe I'm a bit bloodthirsty - but that was sliiiiiightly too early for me. Good enough though - I wouldn't complain at all. He took a lot of shots. Skeete really impressed me there. Very slick. Even though he doesn't have huge power by any means, there was real snap in his jabs and lead lefts. He's not what I'd call 'feather fisted'.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:40 pm

I think that stoppage looks worse because he's slumped down the ropes to the corner, if he had just staying in one place and covered up I'm not sure he would have stepped in so early, still should have thrown a punch back, he's experienced enough to know that.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:44 pm

Looking forward to watching this lad, Georgie Kean is supposed to be a very good prospect.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:53 pm

Warburton had the better of that round, Kean looking for the big shot.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:58 pm

He seems nervous

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:59 pm

I've given the first two rounds to Warburton.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:02 pm

He leaves his chin up a lot. He needs a KO or a KD for a win here as far as I can see.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:06 pm

That's a draw for me. Kean had a bit of an energy dump here.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:06 pm

Can't argue with that 39-38, Kean needs to box more instead of trying to find that one big shot.

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Post by Boxtthis Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

Probably a fair result there

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

Have to say I like Eddie Chambers as a pundit, he talks sense. Much better than the guys Boxnation normally have.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:18 pm

Fair play to Frank Buglioni, asked if he feels the ranking he has (12th in the world rankings) is a true one, and he just said no, and that he only has that ranking because he has that belt. Most fighters would big themselves up there.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:22 pm

I like Frank's realism. Trying to put a lid on it a bit and not getting carried away. He know's with so few fights he's not the finished article but a prospect.

Also like Eddie as a pundit. Warming to him a lot tonight!

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Post by Strongback Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:38 pm

I wonder a bit about how stellar Buglioni's chin is?

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:38 pm

Took a good shot in that round and kept going, can't afford to take many of them though.

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Post by rob-glos Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:48 pm

Oh dear... This is turning into a stinker of a night for Warren.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:49 pm

Funny this card got criticised for not having enough competitive fights, there's been two big upsets on this card.

Komitsky just to good at this stage for Buglioni, he's young enough to come again and took some good shots.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:50 pm

Couldn't avoid the right hand and then gets caught with a full blooded left.

The stoppage was right. Sadly Frank was just a little naive.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 9:52 pm

There are only so many big shots you can take, and in the end he just took to many. Komitski has been in with some good company though, Rhodes, Moore, and Murray twice so isn't a mug.

The referee should have been waiving that off though and not forcing Mark Tibbs to step in, awful refereeing.

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Post by Strongback Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:01 pm

hampo171 wrote:Funny this card got criticised for not having enough competitive fights, there's been two big upsets on this card.


Some promotors can do no wrong and others do no right never mind what actually happen in their promotions.

Style over substance, a bit like Barrack Obama, is the order of the day.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:13 pm

Superb shot that from Eubank JR.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:15 pm

As was mentioned, Jr would do better if his father wasn't looking over his shoulder casting a shadow.

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Post by rob-glos Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:15 pm

I've been critical of Jr in the past but that was a very good punch.

Still dislike him, why does he feel the need to be a cheap imitation of his Dad? Doesn't seem to have a personality of his own.

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Post by Strongback Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:41 pm

rob-glos wrote:I've been critical of Jr in the past but that was a very good punch.

Still dislike him, why does he feel the need to be a cheap imitation of his Dad?  Doesn't seem to have a personality of his own.


To put it into perspective......imagine if your father was Chris Eubank...........

I'm surprised Chris Jr is as normal as he is!

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:51 pm

spencerclarke wrote:Jeez Alex you have some balls!

I've heard that a lot to be fair Spence... Wink

To be honest it would only let me do a max bet of £87 on PaddyPower but I've put it on and should get jut over a grand if it comes in, just really hoping Beltran can stop his man as Usmanee is a real come forward fighter and isn't hard to tag. Pretty confident on a Manny points win though.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:59 pm

Tell you what, this uncompetitive card has had it's too major fights end in upsets Laugh

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Post by Strongback Sat 12 Apr 2014, 11:00 pm

I think Manny could pulverize Bradley tonight. I think if Manny is up for it he could punch the head off Bradley. I just have this gut feeling on it.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 12 Apr 2014, 11:00 pm

Strongback wrote:To put it into perspective......imagine if your father was Chris Eubank...........

I'm surprised Chris Jr is as normal as he is!

Couldn't agree more. Its obvious Snr is pushing him hard and, to be fair, Jnr was taking high risk fights early in his career and did well to repsond and win.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 11:01 pm

Oliver McKenzie has just ripped Conquest a new arse.

Solid performance.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 12 Apr 2014, 11:02 pm

Happy, are you for real?

Eubank Jnr has been taking "high risk fights.."

errrr against who?

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