OWGR Week 17

First topic message reminder :

Lots of Pro Tournaments from around the world.  Congratulations to all the winners

Kuchar wins Hilton Head, climbs to #5.
Westwood wins in Malaysia, climbs to #30
Congratz to the Mechanic for winning in Atlanta.    Gets no OWGR points, but proves yet again why he is the most interesting Golfer in the World.

Some minor events

JH Wang from Korea won the First ever PGAT China event at Mission Hills China.

Yusaku Miyazato won the first Japanese Tour event in Japan in 2014. That should get him well inside the top 200.

Dong Min Lee won the Korean Golf Event.

William Kroop holds off Angel Cabrera in the Latino Americas PGAT event in Argentina.

The top 100 should look like this:

1 Tiger Woods 8.663
2 Adam Scott 8.138
3 Henrik Stenson 8.009
4 Bubba Watson 7.249
5 Matt Kuchar 7.227
6 Jason Day 6.781
7 Jordan Spieth 6.076
8 Sergio Garcia 5.995
9 Phil Mickelson 5.958
10 Rory McIlroy 5.868
11 Justin Rose 5.808
12 Zach Johnson 5.571
13 Dustin Johnson 5.318
14 Graeme McDowell 4.440
15 Steve Stricker 4.425
16 Charl Schwartzel 4.361
17 Jason Dufner 4.267
18 Luke Donald 4.223
19 Jim Furyk 4.152
20 Jimmy Walker 4.126
21 Keegan Bradley 4.101
22 Ian Poulter 4.078
23 Victor Dubuisson 4.059
24 Brandt Snedeker 3.971
25 Patrick Reed 3.900
26 Jamie Donaldson 3.820
27 Thomas Bjorn 3.805
28 Hideki Matsuyama 3.792
29 Webb Simpson 3.741
30 Lee Westwood 3.709
31 Graham Delaet 3.476
32 Bill Haas 3.344
33 Miguel A Jimenez 3.222
34 Jonas Blixt 3.186
35 Hunter Mahan 3.179
36 Rickie Fowler 3.144
37 Louis Oosthuizen 3.105
38 Ryan Moore 2.974
39 Stephen Gallacher 2.877
40 Harris English 2.858
41 Matt Jones 2.644
42 Matt Every 2.642
43 Joost Luiten 2.630
44 Ernie Els 2.626
45 Russell Henley 2.609
46 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 2.553
47 Kevin Streelman 2.498
48 Gary Woodland 2.482
49 Nick Watney 2.452
50 Billy Horschel 2.450
===== The Players Bubble Point (next week)
51 Chris Kirk 2.436
52 Francesco Molinari 2.431
53 Kevin Stadler 2.431
54 Thongchai Jaidee 2.420
55 John Senden 2.401
56 Richard Sterne 2.356
57 Ryan Palmer 2.320
58 Matteo Manassero 2.271
59 Chesson Hadley 2.256
60 George Coetzee 2.188
======US Open Bubble Point  (early June)
61 Martin Kaymer 2.183
62 Pablo Larrazabal 2.159
63 Branden Grace 2.106
64 Scott Stallings 2.105
65 Mikko Ilonen 2.087
66 Bernd Wiesberger 2.066
67 David Lynn 1.947
68 Thorbjorn Olesen 1.945
69 Boo Weekley 1.888
70 Kevin Na 1.883
71 Marc Leishman 1.865
72 Ross Fisher 1.818
73 Peter Hanson 1.803
74 Chris Stroud 1.782
75 Brooks Koepka 1.742
76 Peter Uihlein 1.736
77 Charles Howell-III 1.733
78 Kiradech Aphibarnrat 1.712
79 Ryo Ishikawa 1.699
80 Koumei Oda 1.684
81 Brendon de Jonge 1.675
82 Scott Piercy 1.670
83 Charley Hoffman 1.657
84 Will Mackenzie 1.629
85 Kim Hyung-sung 1.626
86 Jason Kokrak 1.598
87 Thomas Aiken 1.583
88 Fredrik Jacobson 1.569
89 Brett Rumford 1.568
90 K.J. Choi 1.561
91 Angel Cabrera 1.550
92 Roberto Castro 1.550
93 D.A. Points 1.530
94 Paul Casey 1.529
95 Alejandro Canizares 1.518
96 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.516
97 Chris Wood 1.509
98 Russell Knox 1.509
99 Darren Fichardt 1.488
100 Pat Perez 1.488
101 Daniel Summerhays 1.487
102 Anirban Lahiri 1.483
103 Nicolas Colsaerts 1.472
104 Shingo Katayama 1.456

I'vebeen saying this for a while now. The OWGR needs tweaking, as it does not accurately reflect what his happening right now. A 2 year rolling system doesn't work. And people make too much of what it means. The players need the points for entrance into events. That's it. Doesnt mean anything outside of that.

GPB wrote:A couple months ago (Los Angeles maybe) Ryo Ishikawa was in the top 80 and wasn't in the tournament at the beginning of the week.  Got in as an alternate and increased the SoF rating.

How about that Ryo Ishikawa? Been playing better has he not?

Hey Paige nice to see you made it here  

Peter Howell wrote:Hey Paige nice to see you made it here  

Hello there Mr. Howell. Good to see you.

Welcome to the forum fellows.

incontinentia wrote:Welcome to the forum fellows.

Thank You.

Peter Howell wrote:Hey Paige nice to see you made it here  

Thanks good to see you as well.  I am glad we found a new place to discuss golf.  !!

incontinentia wrote:Welcome to the forum fellows.

thank you for the welcome!

incontinentia wrote:Welcome to the forum fellows.

two questions I hope you can answer.

is there a way to put most recent posts in a forum up at top instead of going through the posts?
and can you directly reply to someone or do you have to quote a post of theirs in order to do that? thanks.

GPB wrote:Yes, Both are under ranked if you look at their Sagarin Ranking.  Hoffman is 23 and Howell is 48th.

If you play Yahoo Fantasy, Hoffman is a solid pick in C-Group.

I should have picked have picked Howell in A-Group as I was three legged all weekend.  From what I saw, most people picked  Smalrus, Fowler, or Top Five in A Group and all three missed the  cut.  (I picked Rickie and Smalrus).  Man I hate to be three legged on the weekend.

Hey George, just wanted to update you. In our yahoo league, Bill is in the top 50 again for the second time this year. That is pretty darn good eh with so many people playing? We are impressed. I thought you would want to know. How are you doing btw?

I see Harry Redknapp won this week's PGATour Fanto - despite JJ doing his mcl.
'Arry just warming up for the Play-Offs presumably.

paige wrote:is there a way to put most recent posts in a forum up at top instead of going through the posts?

I'm fairly sure that's not possible but check with a moderator to make sure

paige wrote:can you directly reply to someone or do you have to quote a post of theirs in order to do that?

you can reply to a post without quoting it, use the box at the bottom of the page

incontinentia wrote:

paige wrote:is there a way to put most recent posts in a forum up at top instead of going through the posts?

I'm fairly sure that's not possible but check with a moderator to make sure

paige wrote:can you directly reply to someone or do you have to quote a post of theirs in order to do that?

you can reply to a post without quoting it, use the box at the bottom of the page

thanks for your help.

I just found a new feature. It is called the Friend or Foe. When they are Foes, there is an ignore feature. LOVE IT.

BTW, Global Yahoo Fantasy Golf Leader is now averaging less than 174 pts per week. and the top 50 is averaging less than 169 points per week.

paige.fenton.33 wrote:

Peter Howell wrote:Hey Paige nice to see you made it here  

Thanks good to see you as well.  I am glad we found a new place to discuss golf.  !!

Hey there Paige. Good to see you. How about that Bill? Top 50 again. And I've picked 3 winners in a row!!! Having a great time in your league. It's been great fun and no deletions or censorship of posts. Great job Paige!!!

paige.fenton.33 wrote:

GPB wrote:Yes, Both are under ranked if you look at their Sagarin Ranking.  Hoffman is 23 and Howell is 48th.

If you play Yahoo Fantasy, Hoffman is a solid pick in C-Group.

I should have picked have picked Howell in A-Group as I was three legged all weekend.  From what I saw, most people picked  Smalrus, Fowler, or Top Five in A Group and all three missed the  cut.  (I picked Rickie and Smalrus).  Man I hate to be three legged on the weekend.

Hey George, just wanted to update you. In our  yahoo league, Bill is in the top 50 again for the second time this year.  That is pretty darn good eh with so many people playing?   We are impressed. I thought you would want to know.    How are you doing btw?  

I did okay this week even with the missed cuts. I had another winner this week in Noh and also had Keegan. Having a blast in your yahoo league.

paige.fenton.33 wrote:

incontinentia wrote:Welcome to the forum fellows.

two questions I hope you can answer.

is there a way to put most recent posts in a forum up at top instead of going through the posts?
and can you directly reply to someone or do you have to quote a post of theirs in order to do that? thanks.

Paige .. there is a way to see all the most recent posts on the whole site .. but I'm guessing you are only interested in golf and not the WWE crap that infests other parts of this forum

I'd say just stick to the golf forum and when you look at that it *should" be sorted with most recently updated threads at the top. You will also see a tiny orange icon next to threads that have had a post added since your last visit - and if you click that icon it will take you directly to the oldest post that you haven't yet seen

And there is also a private message feature so you can talk with someone else directly without everyone seeing it - just click on their username then there should be an option to send them a message

Davie wrote:

paige.fenton.33 wrote:

incontinentia wrote:Welcome to the forum fellows.

two questions I hope you can answer.

is there a way to put most recent posts in a forum up at top instead of going through the posts?
and can you directly reply to someone or do you have to quote a post of theirs in order to do that? thanks.

Paige .. there is a way to see all the most recent posts on the whole site .. but I'm guessing you are only interested in golf and not the WWE crap that infests other parts of this forum

I'd say just stick to the golf forum and when you look at that it *should" be sorted with most recently updated threads at the top. You will also see a tiny orange icon next to threads that have had a post added since your last visit - and if you click that icon it will take you directly to the oldest post that you haven't yet seen

And there is also a private message feature so you can talk with someone else directly without everyone seeing it - just click on their username then there shouldv be an option to send them a message

Hey there Davies. Glad to see you made the jump. Looking forward to having lots of good golf discussion here.

"Made the jump"? Think you may be confusing me with someone else .. but good to have some new blood on here anyway

Davie wrote:"Made the jump"? Think you may be confusing me with someone else .. but good to have some new blood on here  anyway

Sorry for the confusion, but I agree with your point about self improvement. We ALL should have the self awareness to know when we need to change and/or improve ourselves.

Hennie- have you been taking too much deer antler spray?

incontinentia wrote:Hennie- have you been taking too much deer antler spray?

Hey WADA and the tour now say it's legal so...I'll never tell! LoL
  

GPB wrote:I just found a new feature.  It is called the Friend or Foe.  When they are Foes, there is an ignore feature.  LOVE IT.

BTW, Global Yahoo Fantasy Golf Leader is now averaging less than 174 pts per week.  and the top 50 is averaging less than 169 points per week.

George, I think we have discussed this before about Yahoo league anyways, how are you doing in your league? shall I give a shout to Bill from you about his top 50 placement again? I don't mind.   

Some early projections.

Wells Fargo has a 50 rating.  The Championship at Laguna National has a 22 rating.

Mickelson will pass Day with a win and get to #5.  Rose, Rory, Zach can get to #6 with a win.

Mickelson has the 3rd longest streak in the top 10 (behind Woods and Scott).  It is at risk.

Rose is adding a tournament to his divisor, he needs to earn about 2 pts more than Rory to stay ahead of him.

Gosh thanks George for the projections.
Stellar work as always.
say hello to our old friend ripper would ya?
many thanks.

Hey there Paige. Good to see you. How about that Bill? Top 50 again. And I've picked 3 winners in a row!!! Having a great time in your league. It's been great fun and no deletions or censorship of posts. Great job Paige!!![/quote]

Hey Hennie. Yahoo is going really good this year. Glad you are enjoying it. Great place, great people.

PD just tweeted that  Adam Scott can Lee Westwood his way pass Tiger next week.  If Scott skips the Players, he will pass Woods.

But Stenson, Bubba, and Kuchar could claim the number 1 spot.

Phil and Rory can get to number 1 if they win tomorrow and win next week.

Miscalculation early this week, Phil does not pass Jason Day if he wins this week.  Phil, Justin, Rory will all be #6 if they win tomorrow.

At least four Top 40 guys missing the Players, including Woods and Day of course. Dubuisson is out and so is Jimenez.

But JB Holmes will surely be added to the field after this week's effort.

IIRC, the only way for JB Holmes to play the Players is to win.

The FEX & OWG deadline was after last week.

Holmes could climb as high as #67 should he win.
Flores ~ #78
Mickelson #6
Kisner ~#111
Bohn ~#68
Rose #6
Kaymer ~#36

GPB,
Then why do CBS and pgatour.com report that JB can qualify with seven more FedEx pts, 63rd place apparently? I thought it was something to do with the Medical Extension that he just emerged from.
I've seen it written and spoken, I just don't understand it!!

It would have to be something to do with Medical Extension. He was about 7th alternate when I looked earlier today. But they don't start filling alternates until the field gets down to 144 players.

He would have to shoot about 90 to fall to 64th place.

According to pgatour.com, JB "needs to earn just eight points in this week's WF Championship to match the Top 125 FedEx Cup points and qualify for The Players due to his Major Medical Extension" . . . etc.
If JB doesn't win, and the Champ is not in The Players field already, Russell Knox and Ryo could be bumped.

Ryo played in Japan this week in one of their biggest tournaments, the Crowns. He finished T5th. Wonder if he has already headed to Jax yet?

Kisner is the only player (other than Holmes) in position to win Wells Fargo that is not in the field yet at the Players.

Kisner grew up playing Junior Golf with DJ; taken a long time for him to break through, but wouldn't be surprised if he eventually did.

Kwini, UFR, I think there is one spot available to the Wells Fargo winner. If the Senior Players elects to play in Jacksonville, then the Players field expands to 145 players (stupid IMO).

Kenny Perry is the Senior Players Champ, and he is entered which makes the field 144 players (w/ Knox and Ishikawa) as of this morning.

It looks like Knox is safe, no matter what happens and Ishikawa is only at risk if Kisner wins. (and Holmes stays in the top 63).

At least this is how it used to work. It may have been changed for this year. There were 145 players in the field last year.