FA Cup Final: Arsenal v Hull City

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Arsenal:
Szczesny; Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal; Arteta, Ramsey; Podolski, Wilshere, Ozil; Giroud.
Subs: Fabianski (GK), Jenkinson, Rosikcy, Cazorla, Flamini, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Kallstrom.

Hull City:
McGregor; Davies, Bruce, Figueroa; Elmohamady, Rosenior, Huddlestone, Meyler, Livermore; Aluko, Fryatt.
Subs: Harper (GK), McShane, Chester, Boyd, Quinn, Sagbo, Koren.


Referee: Lee Probert (Wiltshire FA)
Assistant referees: Jake Collin (Liverpool FA), Mick McDonough (Northumberland FA)
Fourth official: Kevin Friend (Leicestershire FA).
Reserve assistant referee: Simon Bennett (Staffordshire FA)

FreekShow wrote:

socal1976 wrote:

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Lovely little back-heel by Giroud in that John.

I really feel for Hull. Those players, a real manager like Steve Bruce who is coated off so much but has done a lot of good work. And the fans, absolutely heartbroken they'll be.

It was  a beautifully worked goal great pass from Giroud and a wonderful finish. Only if, only if we had Ramsey all year. Oh well the FA cup is a great trophy to win.

Yeah it was fitting for Ramsey to get the winner. What a player he's turned into.

Absolutely, love the guy. I never went negative on him like some. Can't wait to see what he can do next season. I have to say I was absolutely livid in the first half with our defending but we really stuck to the task and owned the match from the 17th minute on despite needing extra time to take it. I don't even want to mention the officiating as I am too happy to get into the negatives.

Remy is overrated.

I am signing out for the day fellas, I need to get my drink on. If I don't post for awhile I may be in jail.

Well done Arsenal, and well done Mr Wenger.

Hopefully he'll now bow out on a high, before he tarnishes his legacy further.

Should also say well done to Hull and Steve Bruce. Magnanimous in defeat as well. Proper bloke

I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

If Arsenal can line up a decent replacement (*hint* Klopp *hint*) then they really should move on from Wenger.

This has been another season of stagnation in the league and in Europe.

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

Any excuse mate.


But I am not sure being drunk and screaming gunners in the US is a good idea

Duty281 wrote:If Arsenal can line up a decent replacement (*hint* Klopp *hint*) then they really should move on from Wenger.

This has been another season of stagnation in the league and in Europe.

Keep winger for 3 years then take martinez

Olly wrote:Hopefully he'll now bow out on a high, before he tarnishes his legacy further.

Pretty sure, he's just confirmed he's staying on in that interview post-game.

Remy isn't a natural finisher, on occasions he was woeful for us. It's just that he was the pinpoint of our team in front of Cabaye, so he was always going to end up scoring double figures & look impressive. He'll offer an alternative to Giroud & offer that frightening pace in behind. Still think Arsenal should be looking at a more dominant centre forward to lead the line.

Could arsenal get dzeko.

Citeh may have to let some go.

Offering Dzeko, Nasri, Milner & Hart new deals this summer are City.

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

Celebrating a trophy isnt grounds for getting rat arsed?

All strikers miss chances. I've always found Remy to be a very natural finisher, and a player that Wenger would really do a lot for.

Yeah I think Remy and Arsenal are a very snug fit.

         

Suck it Nick(s)  

#PotlessChumps   

Well atleast we're heading into next season with a positive. Quietly crapping myself after 8 mins. Delighted with cider after 120 Id settle for Remy can play all along the front

Stop rubbing it in, that Remy is going to join Arsenal & it's a snug fit. It leaves us with an injured P. Cisse & Adam Campbell   

Shola will re-sign. Hopefully in the same way as Carlton did, having had summer off and getting a bit fat.

I think people know my opinion on Remy, don't rate him particularly highly

Think Arsenal can do a lot lot better

Olly wrote:I think people know my opinion on Remy, don't rate him particularly highly

Think Arsenal can do a lot lot better

I wouldn't want him as main forward, Back up on the bench to bring on yes.

Olly wrote:I think people know my opinion on Remy, don't rate him particularly highly

Think Arsenal can do a lot lot better

Surprised you havent thought about that again since coating him off as nothing to sing about for Newcastle. And its safe to say you were wrong.

Crikey, that sounds more aggressive than I meant it. I HATE YOU FOREVER

I hear that the hit striker RVW might be available.

Wilbraham?

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Crikey, that sounds more aggressive than I meant it. I HATE YOU FOREVER

I love reading the word crikey but does anybody ever use it in the real world?

Always wondered.

I use it sparingly

I think he's found his level at Toon, don't think hes good enough to start for a side with title ambitions like Arsenal.

FreekShow wrote:

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Crikey, that sounds more aggressive than I meant it. I HATE YOU FOREVER

I love reading the word crikey but does anybody ever use it in the real world?

Always wondered.

I can tell you I do. Thats one of many reasons the teenagers I work with think I'm weird and the people at Lincoln Uni all thought I was posh. I take the mix of posh from Cambridge and mix it with mockney from West Ham and the weird Cambridgeshire Cockney accent from years of London spillover. Which is what lead to the conversation I had today about what fruits except lemon, plum and melon work as insults

Linebreaker wrote:A bit like me with the cricket, mate.   I'm just a bit burnt out.

I just hope it's not a boring 1-0 to Arsenal. A 3-2 scoreline would make this late night worth it for me!

LB Hopefully late night was worth it?

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:

Linebreaker wrote:A bit like me with the cricket, mate.   I'm just a bit burnt out.

I just hope it's not a boring 1-0 to Arsenal. A 3-2 scoreline would make this late night worth it for me!

LB Hopefully late night was worth it?

Corporal, would you believe I conked out just before the 2nd Aresenal goal? Atleti has just equalised in the La Liga match and it was 03:30 or so here.

Well done Arsenal - seems like they didn't panic and got another deserved Cup win. I could see signs of desperation with Hull early in the 2nd half... so the talk above of fouls/penalties doesn't surprise me. Commiserations to any Hull fans - they gave it a good shot and their start was very entertaining.

Their start was entertaining, but after that it looked as if they hadn't a clue what to do with the ball. They seemed more confident trying to play around at the back rather than in the other half, where it looked like they panicked as soon as it came near them. They did have a solid plan of chipping it out to Elmohammady, but then rarely got anyone near him after the header. It just seemed strange because I thought that might be the one place they could get at Arsenal.
However, before the game I thought they would lose, so I can't complain with being given a brief glimmer of hope. Having said that I didn't think it was a good game at all, and not just because they lost. The standard of football was pretty poor for the most part (Arsenal's third goal was nice), as was the officiating. Arsenal certainly deserved to win it, probably should've done it in normal time, but they got there in the end so it doesn't really matter.

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

I could care less about beating Hull this is the third time we have done it this year, what I care about is lifting the cup and winning a big trophy. Something that Chelsea despite spending many times more than Arsenal on transfers in the last few years and having a bigger payroll, and having the self appointed special one as their manager were unable to do this year. By the way maybe if you guys could beat WBA and West Ham you would have won the league, so I am happy about beating Hull to win the FA cup, if you guys could beat the WBAs of the world maybe you would have some silverware this year.

PS no disrespect to hull or their fans they fought like hell and deserved to be there. But again I don't care if we beat Hull, City, Chelsea, United, or the local girl's school from up the block; if they get to the FA cup final they deserve respect and to win the cup is all that counts. By the way we beat 3 of the top 7 teams in the country to win the cup.

3 of the top 6 Socal.

And arsenal are in the top 6. So that leaves two they didn't beat.

Of course they are the top 2!!

But still look at hulls run. Not a top 10 team beat.

I was at Wembley yesterday. Aged 20 years in the first eight minutes. We showed great character to come back to win. Not sure I can take watching to many games like that though  

mystiroakey wrote:And arsenal are in the top 6. So that leaves two they didn't beat.

Of course they are the top 2!!

But still look at hulls run. Not a top 10 team beat.

Thought Liverpool came 2nd this season.

Barney92 wrote:Their start was entertaining, but after that it looked as if they hadn't a clue what to do with the ball. They seemed more confident trying to play around at the back rather than in the other half, where it looked like they panicked as soon as it came near them. They did have a solid plan of chipping it out to Elmohammady, but then rarely got anyone near him after the header. It just seemed strange because I thought that might be the one place they could get at Arsenal.  
However, before the game I thought they would lose, so I can't complain with being given a brief glimmer of hope. Having said that I didn't think it was a good game at all, and not just because they lost. The standard of football was pretty poor for the most part (Arsenal's third goal was nice), as was the officiating. Arsenal certainly deserved to win it, probably should've done it in normal time, but they got there in the end so it doesn't really matter.

The game was almost a microcosm of the English football season. Thoroughly entertaining yet low on quality

Calder106 wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:And arsenal are in the top 6. So that leaves two they didn't beat.

Of course they are the top 2!!

But still look at hulls run. Not a top 10 team beat.

Thought Liverpool came 2nd this season.

you are right sir calder

So, after all the dust has settled, was it really a great cup final, or was it just a decent game that simply got off to a flyer..?

When Hull scored their second goal, all I could think was "Too soon.... too soon...." They got a lead and then didn't know what to do with it. Arsenal's experience on the bigger stages was always likely to enable them to overcome Tiger's flying start.

It's a shame they couldn't hold out but the FA Cup Final can be a cruel theatre. All that expectation... all that dizzying glory so tantalisingly close and yet, so far away.

It's unlikely (but not impossible) that Hull will see this stage again. The hard headed will say that they had their chance and blew it. That would be a harsh but not unreasonable assessment. I feel sorry for their fans. Not the players, the fans. They're the ones who really care.

I thought the referee did well to resist the belly-flops of the Arsenal players inside the penalty area. Players falling to the ground at the merest touch isn't clever and it sure as hell isn't professional by any stretch of the imagination. It's just cowardly. Braver men, with more confidence in their abilities, would stay on their feet and try to score goals by their abilities rather than rely on being cravenly gifted an undeserved free shot at goal from 12 yards.

To these faint hearted cowards I say: Stay on your feet..!! Play the bl00dy game..!!

Well done the referee for waving the appeals aside with the contempt they deserved.

The sideshow issues relating to this game.... late kick off / disaster commemoration and any other gubbins the lamebrains can think of only detract from the match itself. This is the Cup Final. The game itself should be enough to excite and enthuse every football fan in the country. What a shame it's now played in a soulless concrete bowl with very little appeal or character. In the time Wembley Mk II has been opened, nothing of note has happened there. The Gods of Football have yet to sprinkle magic dust on the place. The players certainly aren't lighting the occasion up. None of them seemed especially lifted for the occasion. I don't think footballers have that in them any more. It's just another day in the office with a trophy that isn't the Premiership (the only trophy they really.... really.. give a damn about) being handed out at the end. Post match celebrations appear almost stage managed. Performing monkeys dancing for the cameras.

But all in all, it was a reasonably good game. Enjoyable, but not that special. Hull had a lead then lost it and Arsenal scraped home.

The last time a team came back from 2-0 down to win the FA cup an unknown Cornishman who only played 11 league games for Everton (he ended up at Pompey..!!) made himself a hero that day by stepping out of anonymity to score twice and change the game. That's a fairy story. That's what cup finals should be all about. It also happened in a World Cup year. 1966 to be precise. Now, there's a thought.

So, where are the fairy stories today..? Simply, there aren't any. Wigan beating Man City..? Bah..!! City didn't turn up. They didn't want it. And it was a rotten match.

The FA Cup still has magic but only in the hearts of the fans. That's where the real emotion is. They really care and Hull's dared to dream. They travelled from Humberside in genuine hope and for the hour or so that City led the game, they believed. Today, many of them are really hurting. But they'll be back next season. There's always another season and come the first Saturday in January, they'll be dreaming again.

Thank God for the fans of clubs like Hull City. Without them, football would have died a death long ago.

Remy reminds me a lot of Wiltord and Wenger loved him, I could see him joining the Gunners, Bony is another who would be perfect for Arsenal in my opinion

The Fourth Lion wrote:So, after all the dust has settled, was it really a great cup final, or was it just a decent game that simply got off to a flyer..?

When Hull scored their second goal, all I could think was  "Too soon.... too soon...."   They got a lead and then didn't know what to do with it.  Arsenal's experience on the bigger stages was always likely to enable them to overcome Tiger's flying start.

It's a shame they couldn't hold out but the FA Cup Final can be a cruel theatre.  All that expectation... all that dizzying glory so tantalisingly close and yet, so far away.  

It's unlikely (but not impossible) that Hull will see this stage again.  The hard headed will say that they had their chance and blew it.  That would be a harsh but not unreasonable assessment.  I feel sorry for their fans.  Not the players, the fans.  They're the ones who really care.  

I thought the referee did well to resist the belly-flops of the Arsenal players inside the penalty area.  Players falling to the ground at the merest touch isn't clever and it sure as hell isn't professional by any stretch of the imagination.  It's just cowardly.  Braver men, with more confidence in their abilities, would stay on their feet and try to score goals by their abilities  rather than rely on being cravenly gifted an undeserved free shot at goal from 12 yards.

To these faint hearted cowards I say:  Stay on your feet..!!  Play the bl00dy game..!!

Well done the referee for waving the appeals aside with the contempt they deserved.

The sideshow issues relating to this game.... late kick off / disaster commemoration and any other gubbins the lamebrains can think of only detract from the match itself.   This is the Cup Final.  The game itself should be enough to excite and enthuse every football fan in the country.  What a shame it's now played in a soulless concrete bowl with very little appeal or character.  In the time Wembley Mk II has been opened, nothing of note has happened there.  The Gods of Football have yet to sprinkle magic dust on the place.  The players certainly aren't lighting the occasion up.  None of them seemed especially lifted for the occasion.  I don't think footballers have that in them any more.   It's just another day in the office with a trophy that isn't the Premiership (the only trophy they really.... really.. give a damn about) being handed out at the end.  Post match celebrations appear almost stage managed. Performing monkeys dancing for the cameras.

But all in all, it was a reasonably good game.  Enjoyable, but not that special.   Hull had a lead then lost it and Arsenal scraped home.  

The last time a team came back from 2-0 down to win the FA cup an unknown Cornishman who only played 11 league games for Everton (he ended up at Pompey..!!) made himself a hero that day by stepping out of anonymity to score twice and change the game.  That's a fairy story.  That's what cup finals should be all about.  It also happened in a World Cup year.  1966 to be precise. Now, there's a thought.

So, where are the fairy stories today..?  Simply, there aren't any.   Wigan beating Man City..?  Bah..!!  City didn't turn up.  They didn't want it.  And it was a rotten match.

The FA Cup still has magic but only in the hearts of the fans.  That's where the real emotion is.   They really care and Hull's dared to dream.  They travelled from Humberside in genuine hope and for the hour or so that City led the game, they believed.  Today, many of them are really hurting.   But they'll be back next season.  There's always another season and come the first Saturday in January, they'll be dreaming again.

Thank God for the fans of clubs like Hull City.  Without them, football would have died a death long ago.

Excuse me fourth lion, what are you talking about? Do you think the ref was courageous waving off the penalty where the hull city player volleyballed the ball away with both hands on the football inside the 18 yard line? Was he courageous then or just ravenously incompetent? Last time I checked handling the ball with one hand in the 18 is a penalty kick far be it when volleyball spiking it with two hands. Sorry, tom hundredstone fouled Giroud and Cazorla was fouled two more times in the box. It isn't courageous to foul people in the box and not get called, plenty of neutrals watched that match and thought the referee was incompetent and not courageous I share that opinion. In high school we weren't the most mature lot, we used to trip our friends in the hallway for laugh. Trust me I did it a dozen times it doesn't take a great deal of theatrical kicking to hook a guy's legs and bring him down if you catch him right. And we all played the game we know that if your are moving and cutting at full speed and someone hooks a leg or an ankle you can be superman and still be taken down. Ok if not 4 penalties there were at least, at least, if you want to be English and brave two penalites in that match that weren't called in favor of Hull City. That doesn't take away from their cup run, it isn't an indictment of their fans or their players but it doesn't take a genius or weak kneed continental to conclude that they got a major rub of the green with calls.

Furthermore, I thought the players on both sides, showed a great deal of emotion and respect for the event. Wenger looked like a schoolboy on the day before summer break, did you see the reaction of Arsenal players mobbing Aaron "its not gay if its with" Ramsey when he scored the winner. Did you see the utter desecration of the Hull players when the final whistle blew and they had come up just that much short? I thought it was a great cup final. Yes my team won, but in no way as a neutral watching that event would you feel that cup had lost its appeal or that the players didn't care.

socal1976 wrote:

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

I could care less about beating Hull this is the third time we have done it this year, what I care about is lifting the cup and winning a big trophy. Something that Chelsea despite spending many times more than Arsenal on transfers in the last few years and having a bigger payroll, and having the self appointed special one as their manager were unable to do this year. By the way maybe if you guys could beat WBA and West Ham you would have won the league, so I am happy about beating Hull to win the FA cup, if you guys could beat the WBAs of the world maybe you would have some silverware this year.

When we win the cup we have to play big clubs like United, Everton and Liverpool.

This is all a bit short termism, as fans we don't support our clubs for one year so Arsenal finally winning something in seasons that United and Chelsea won nothing isn't a fair assessment.

I'd rather win the FA cup than not win but it doesn't suddenly erase 9 years of abject failure nor does one year of failure erase 7 years of dominance.

Arsenal should have easily had four penalties.

Haven't seen anything like it since Chelsea-Barcelona - at least in this case the result went the right way.

@CFCNick, I forgot we didn't beat 3 of the top 6 clubs in the country to win the cup or anything like that. Liverpool, Everton, Spurs why those are pub teams. Who cares what you think or what little disclaimers you want to create for yourself. At the end of the day Arsenal won their 11th FA cup, its all about the trophies I have been told, ok then we got one and a good one at that. No team in English football, even one owned by a shady Russian Oligarch BFF of Putin or one owned by a slave owning Oil Sheik has won more cups than we have.

CFCNick wrote:

socal1976 wrote:

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

I could care less about beating Hull this is the third time we have done it this year, what I care about is lifting the cup and winning a big trophy. Something that Chelsea despite spending many times more than Arsenal on transfers in the last few years and having a bigger payroll, and having the self appointed special one as their manager were unable to do this year. By the way maybe if you guys could beat WBA and West Ham you would have won the league, so I am happy about beating Hull to win the FA cup, if you guys could beat the WBAs of the world maybe you would have some silverware this year.

When we win the cup we have to play big clubs like United, Everton and Liverpool.

Or Portsmouth!!!

Or wait does that one not count

Olly wrote:

CFCNick wrote:

socal1976 wrote:

CFCNick wrote:I don't think beating Hull is grounds for getting rat arsed.

Come on then. Give us a wave!   

I could care less about beating Hull this is the third time we have done it this year, what I care about is lifting the cup and winning a big trophy. Something that Chelsea despite spending many times more than Arsenal on transfers in the last few years and having a bigger payroll, and having the self appointed special one as their manager were unable to do this year. By the way maybe if you guys could beat WBA and West Ham you would have won the league, so I am happy about beating Hull to win the FA cup, if you guys could beat the WBAs of the world maybe you would have some silverware this year.

When we win the cup we have to play big clubs like United, Everton and Liverpool.

Or Portsmouth!!!

Or wait does that one not count

Or Middlesbrough, or Aston Villa..

I still have my doubts about the 2007 final, many will laugh but I do believe that the Giggs goal should have stood, his momentum takes him into Cech and should a player be penalised for having someone dive in front of them?

Arsenal not having to leave London was a damn good help too, mind you.

By the way, personally I felt some of those penalty claims only highlighted that players go down like a sack of spuds.

Only fitting an employee of the FA screws up in the FA Cup final.