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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jul 2014, 8:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

Brighton are gonna sign Chris O'Grady to replace Ulloa

Oh the lolz
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Post by JDizzle Wed 30 Jul 2014, 3:45 pm

That's a lot of CBs, but I'd the question the quality of the cover.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 30 Jul 2014, 3:55 pm

The first three of Jags, Distin and Stones are pretty damn good

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Post by MIG Wed 30 Jul 2014, 4:00 pm

I still think Jags and Distin are a very good partnership.  Stones is looking really good especially at his age.  Alcaraz brings some experience in the back up then you have Duffy who looked potentially good at one point but hasn't pushed on and Besic who I can't comment a huge amount on.  For me the CB's are ok for this season.  Full backs are fine with Coleman with Stones and Hibbert as cover.  Baines with Oviedo and Garbutt as cover.
Besic, Gibson, Barry and McCarthy CM.
Its attacking mids and forwards that look a bit light but Lukaku and Henen will start to fill that gap.
That would make - Mirallas, Barkley, Osman, Pienaar, McGeady, Naismith, Lukaku, Henen, Kone

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Post by GSC Wed 30 Jul 2014, 4:17 pm

There are few times in the PL with a trio as good as that. City's 2nd best CB is Demichilis. United have Evans at a push.
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Post by JDizzle Wed 30 Jul 2014, 4:32 pm

Stones is still very inexperienced and Distin is 36 now. Jags is a good PL centre half. One of my best mates is an Everton fan, so maybe I'm just being influenced by his pessimism and cynicism!

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Post by MIG Wed 30 Jul 2014, 4:37 pm

Stones is inexperienced but looked great being thrown in to the deep end last season and will have gained a fair bit of experience from it.

Distin may be 36 but he is a machine. His strength and speed never seems to go. Hopefully this won't be the season it does start to go, I guess it has to at some point. He is prone to the odd mistake but what CBs aren't?

Jags is solid in the Prem he may not be world class but he puts a real shift in and is our version of John Terry imo.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 5:16 pm

Press conference at Goodison is set for 7 this evening. See some people on Twitter are pointing out the irony that Lukaku was signed to replace Drogba, and is now effectively being replaced by the Ivorian.

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Post by Fernando Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:12 pm

Everton have completed Lukaku's signing with paperwork to be finalized.

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Post by Ent Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:30 pm

Fair play to Everton, good ambition being shown.

Battle for top four will be entriguing next year.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:32 pm

They have definitely overcome the potential issues that could have arisen because of their loan deals, securing both Barry and Lukaku will be huge for them but for the life of me I cannot understand what Chelsea are playing at.

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Post by Ent Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:33 pm

Financing their other moves if guess.

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Post by Guest Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:41 pm

You think Jose has something up his sleeve? Not sure. He has three strikers, his defence is pretty rock solid, I could only imagine him bringing in a holding midfielder, say Khedira, at the fee that they've received from Lukaku. Wouldn't surprise me.

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Post by Fernando Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:43 pm

I think Chelsea only bring a player in if Torres/Ramires or Cech leaves.

Torres being pimped about for 14m apparently.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:57 pm

Think you're right Nando. Chelsea will definitely have to sell unless they bring in an under 21 player to their squad. By my reckoning, they've got 19 overseas players who could be included in their Premier League squad;

Cech, Courtois, Schwarzer, Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Felipe Luis, Mikel, Matic, Torres, Drogba, Ramires, Oscar, Hazard, Romeu, Van Ginkel, Saleh, Diego Costa, Marin, Schurrle

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm

Lolz at Chelsea selling Lukaku. Just lolz
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:00 pm

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:Think you're right Nando. Chelsea will definitely have to sell unless they bring in an under 21 player to their squad. By my reckoning, they've got 19 overseas players who could be included in their Premier League squad;

Cech, Courtois, Schwarzer, Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Felipe Luis, Mikel, Matic, Torres, Drogba, Ramires, Oscar, Hazard, Romeu, Van Ginkel, Saleh, Diego Costa, Marin, Schurrle

Actually only 18, as Van Ginkel will count as an under 21.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:09 pm

£28m is a fair whack, both for Chelsea to receive for a player Mourinho clearly doesnt want (does well at that) and for Everton to pay out. No more "we're just paupers" from Everton

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Post by GSC Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:11 pm

Not a bad fee for Chelsea, assume large sell on clause.
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Post by Crimey Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:18 pm

Yeah think that deal is good for both parties, not sure Lukaku is a top European striker so can't see him succeeding at Chelsea, certainly not playing every week, which he wouldn't now Costa is there. He'll be good for Everton though and they've made a statement by spending a large amount on a player they want.

£28 million for a player who has never really shown anything at Chelsea is fantastic for Chelsea, it basically pays off the Costa deal.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:22 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:£28m is a fair whack, both for Chelsea to receive for a player Mourinho clearly doesnt want (does well at that) and for Everton to pay out. No more "we're just paupers" from Everton

Think this is a one off for Everton. They were massively in profit from last year's transfers due to selling Fellani, and this has probably given them the finances for this deal.

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Post by Guest Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:28 pm

Have Everton actually made a step forward this summer? To me, the answer is no. All they've done is make loans permanent, yet that side wasn't good enough last year for top 4 & was seven points off, why would it be good enough this year? £30m+ is a lot of money to spend on Lukaku, Besic & offering the ageing Barry his wage. I only see another failed top 4 attempt.

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Post by westisbest Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:33 pm

Fair play to Everton. Always liked them.

I sometimes wonder where we would be had Martinez taken over.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:35 pm

John wrote:Have Everton actually made a step forward this summer? To me, the answer is no. All they've done is make loans permanent, yet that side wasn't good enough last year for top 4 & was seven points off, why would it be good enough this year? £30m+ is a lot of money to spend on Lukaku, Besic & offering the ageing Barry his wage. I only see another failed top 4 attempt.

I understand what you are saying but there is still time.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:35 pm

Chelsea exodus continues, Bertrand goes to Southampton on loan for the year.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:38 pm

Good good, another potential Olsson destination out of the picture
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Post by westisbest Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:42 pm

We could/should have kept Bertrand, in stead of Richardson.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:43 pm

John wrote:Have Everton actually made a step forward this summer? To me, the answer is no. All they've done is make loans permanent, yet that side wasn't good enough last year for top 4 & was seven points off, why would it be good enough this year? £30m+ is a lot of money to spend on Lukaku, Besic & offering the ageing Barry his wage. I only see another failed top 4 attempt.

You've failed to take into account the improvement the likes of Barkley and Stones are likely to make with a full season of Premier League experience under their belt. Also they usually sell a key member of their squad, as the likes of Fellani, Arteta, Rodwell and Lescott have left in previous close season. It's not going to happen this season, which will be a bonus.

Whilst I don't think Everton will make the top 4, I don't think that should be seen as a failure. The top 6 can pay considerably more in wages, and their budget's probably on a par with the likes of Newcastle.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:46 pm

The improvements that those players make will be countered by the added age of Barry and Distin, Everton have very much stood still but more importantly haven't gone backwards.

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Post by Crimey Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:54 pm

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:Chelsea exodus continues, Bertrand goes to Southampton on loan for the year.

Yes!

Liverpool avoid signing him.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:58 pm

Olly wrote:Good good, another potential Olsson destination out of the picture
If they would kindly sign a winger so they can bugger off of Redmond that'd be handy too. The only team I fear could make an offer that's too good to turn down for him
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Post by Ent Wed 30 Jul 2014, 10:14 pm

Huge amount of money and they've probably over paid - but who else could they have spent the money on.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Jul 2014, 10:28 pm

At the end of the day Everton are getting a guy who's scoring 15 goals a year at least atm and has the potential to score 25-30 goals a year. 

I love it, its bold, and I think it'll be the best business they've done since Cahill
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Post by Guest Wed 30 Jul 2014, 10:39 pm

Anyone see the Celtic score tonight? Expect the exodus to happen now because of financially missing out. Expect Forster to Southampton to come.

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Post by CFCNick Wed 30 Jul 2014, 10:40 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:They have definitely overcome the potential issues that could have arisen because of their loan deals, securing both Barry and Lukaku will be huge for them but for the life of me I cannot understand what Chelsea are playing at.


Olly wrote:Lolz at Chelsea selling Lukaku. Just lolz


Lukaku wanted out last year because he felt he couldn't beat out Eto'o. He's a major bottler and a cry baby. He wants to be the man but doesn't want to beat out the competition.

Thanks for the memories Romelu, you tart.

Spoiler:

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Post by Ent Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:03 pm

Classy.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:06 pm

Crimey wrote:
Nakatomi Plaza wrote:Chelsea exodus continues, Bertrand goes to Southampton on loan for the year.

Yes!

Liverpool avoid signing him.
Where have you been for the last month that you think him going to play for Southampton means he won't end up at Liverpool?

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Post by Fernando Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:07 pm

Odds that he joins Liverpool next summer for 20m+ 2/1

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:12 pm

Yeah, Chelsea did really well not having a go with him last year...

Wonder whether Everton had a look at Bony before this move?

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Post by CFCNick Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:10 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Yeah, Chelsea did really well not having a go with him last year...

Wonder whether Everton had a look at Bony before this move?

He played for Chelsea worse than be did at the World Cup.

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Post by Mat Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:39 am

Alternatively, maybe he got a bit annoyed that despite scoring 32 Premier League goals in the last 2 seasons, Mourinho has still felt the need to not only spend big on a striker(fair enough) but also bring back Drogba and also keep Torres. Not really a great show of trust.


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Post by CFCNick Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:48 am

He can't do it for a big team. He suits 5th place challengers but can't step up.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 31 Jul 2014, 1:09 am

Not really seen Chelsea give him a chance in the past two years though. Yet Ba, Eto'o and Torres were better options? Not so sure.

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Post by CFCNick Thu 31 Jul 2014, 6:13 am

Hey, if that's in Lukaku's mind then he won't perform. He's never shown any fight to win the top job. And yes those players are a better option if the alternative is a player with an inferiority complex and at the same time wants to be the big man without putting in the effort.

He always looked like he had weights tied to his ankles in a Chelsea kit.

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Post by MIG Thu 31 Jul 2014, 6:44 am

Yeah clearly he's not good enough for Chelsea....you realise he's still only 21 right?
15 goals a season as a 19/20 year old....potential...

God I sound like Truss....

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Post by CFCNick Thu 31 Jul 2014, 7:17 am

I don't care if he's only 21. He doesn't have the mindset to be able to develop and perform well at a top club. He's better suited to Everton where him and the club can both attempt to rise together.

It's always been in his mind that he can't play well so it will never work out at Chelsea. Whether it's the price tag, expectations, "replacing Drogba", or beating Eto'o for a starting role, he can't put himself in the right mind to succeed here. So he's better off leaving and we get £28m towards FFP.

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Post by GSC Thu 31 Jul 2014, 7:21 am

Surely this falls under doctor-patient confidentiality agreement Nick.
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Post by GSC Thu 31 Jul 2014, 8:46 am

Ravel Morrison charged with assualting 2 women.

RIP his career
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Post by CFCNick Thu 31 Jul 2014, 8:49 am

How many 2nd chances has this guy had? Ridiculous waste of talent and oxygen.

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Post by GSC Thu 31 Jul 2014, 9:11 am

He really is a mucking foron
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Post by GSC Thu 31 Jul 2014, 9:41 am

Benzema signs a new deal at Madrid apparently. Probably kills off the Falcao rumours.
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