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Sexton breaks jaw in t14 match. May miss AIs

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Post by quinsforever Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:52 pm

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/29016095

Burden is a bit of a psycho. Haven't seen video but can imagine how it happened having watched Burden attempt similar hits (mostly successfully, but only by milliseconds) against Saracens in the HC Final

Really sucks for Sexton and Ireland

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Post by quinsforever Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:58 pm

Burdens hits on Brits...perfectly timed, but no margin for error, and I suspect Sexton was on the receiving end of that margin of error going the wrong way. Burden hits hard and high. Easy to imagine his arm riding up onto the jaw.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KY7ELmluajE

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Post by Notch Mon 01 Sep 2014, 8:03 pm

Six weeks isn't too bad. That'll mean he doesn't miss any Ireland camps or matches. Two months is touch and go but not the worst one.

It was considerably less legal than that clip quins. His teammates certainly didn't think it was accidental. Pretty clear yellow card.
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Post by quinsforever Mon 01 Sep 2014, 8:08 pm

I believe you. Haven't been able to find video. Burden leaves himself no margin for error. If he mistimes the big hits he will probably get yellow carded every time.

In spite of having played hooker myself, I do think that fly halves should be afforded special protection. Have seen too many deliberate shots on key FHs to think otherwise. Should Burden have got red?

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Post by Notch Mon 01 Sep 2014, 8:13 pm

Nah. I really think that red should only be used for intentional violent acts. Punching, kicking, biting, gouging etc.

Let the citing commissioner sort out the rest. It was hard, late and high. Punish the player without ruining the game. Like you say its a very fine margin and its too difficult a call to make in the heat of the moment.
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Post by Hound of Harrow Mon 01 Sep 2014, 11:28 pm

Sexton was kicking the ball on the ground and Burden went high with his forearm. No need for that challenge and a deserved yellow. There is a video link during the article on the Irish Independent website.

I hope he's ok for the AIs.


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Post by Notch Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:31 am

Cheap shot

http://balls.ie/rugby/video-cheap-shot-left-johnny-sexton-broken-jaw/
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Post by Notch Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:35 am

Timing of Sexton injury beneficial to Ireland

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/sexton-injury-comes-at-perfect-time-for-ireland-30553481.html
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Post by jimbopip Tue 02 Sep 2014, 8:40 am

Having seen the clip, thanks Notch, I don't understand why it wasn't a straight red. Sexton wasn't in possession of the ball, Burden made no attempt to put his arms around him, his swinging arm was head high. Straight red to me. thumbsdown

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Post by Notch Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:05 am

Yeah looking at it a few more times it could have and maybe even should have been red. He clearly goes for Sexton after the ball is already gone.
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Post by Submachine Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:05 pm

Have watched it several times now and on first viewing i thought it wasn't too bad. Looked like both guys going for the ball, Sexton a bit quicker gets a nudge as a reminder.
BUT, Burden sees very early that he will be second to the ball and then only has eyes for Sexton. blatant head high off the ball hit.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Tue 02 Sep 2014, 8:18 pm

I know people are saying a red card ruins the game, but surely a deliberate attempt to end a flyhalfs involvement in the remainder of a game would ruin a game also.

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Post by quinsforever Tue 02 Sep 2014, 8:45 pm

100% agree.

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Post by The Saint Tue 02 Sep 2014, 9:16 pm

Notch wrote:Timing of Sexton injury beneficial to Ireland

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/sexton-injury-comes-at-perfect-time-for-ireland-30553481.html

Not if you want to win your autumn series.

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Post by Notch Tue 02 Sep 2014, 10:41 pm

The Saint wrote:
Notch wrote:Timing of Sexton injury beneficial to Ireland

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/sexton-injury-comes-at-perfect-time-for-ireland-30553481.html

Not if you want to win your autumn series.

The point is he'll almost certainly be back for the autumn series unless there are additional complications. 'Sexton doubt for Ireland' is a great headline but every article under that headline has said he'll either be sidelined for six weeks or eight weeks. Worst case scenario is thats over-optimistic and he'll miss the first match, but if those estimates are correct eight weeks from his injury puts his return date around the 24th of October and our first game is the 8th November.

Last year we dropped Sexton for the first match due to the fact he was overplayed at Racing after having no break from the Lions tour. If the medics are right about his recovery time, this year he'll be fit two weeks out from the first match and fresh as a daisy.
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Wed 03 Sep 2014, 10:34 am

Plus the fact that a broken jaw won't restrict him from training (except for contact obviously) so he could use this break like a mini preseason.

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Post by Baz1974 Wed 03 Sep 2014, 4:09 pm

He may drop a bit of weight if he has to have the jaw wired shut for a while which wouldn't be ideal but other than that could be a blessing in disguise alright

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Post by Notch Fri 05 Sep 2014, 8:58 pm

Missed it but Sexton said on Of the Ball today he's expecting to be fit for the Autumn Internationals. And he'll be restricted to soup for three weeks, no solids
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