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Post by GPB Mon 20 Oct 2014, 1:51 am

This weeks winners are noted below.  Where have you been Johan Edfors?  Winner on the Challenge Tour in China.

Ben Martin gets an invite to the Masters with his win.  

1 Rory McIlroy 11.481
2 Adam Scott 8.334
3 Jim Furyk 7.513
4 Sergio Garcia 7.450
5 Henrik Stenson 7.406
6 Justin Rose 6.864
7 Bubba Watson 6.785
8 Jason Day 6.682
9 Matt Kuchar 6.096
10 Rickie Fowler 5.655
11 Phil Mickelson 5.382
12 Martin Kaymer 4.924
13 Billy Horschel 4.894
14 Jordan Spieth 4.822
15 Zach Johnson 4.500
16 Dustin Johnson 4.499
17 Tiger Woods 4.293
18 Graeme McDowell 4.272
19 Jimmy Walker 4.219
20 Hideki Matsuyama 4.138
21 Hunter Mahan 4.111
22 Victor Dubuisson 3.966
23 Chris Kirk 3.952
24 Jamie Donaldson 3.654
25 Charl Schwartzel 3.645
26 Patrick Reed 3.629
27 Keegan Bradley 3.498
28 Steve Stricker 3.413
29 Bill Haas 3.352
30 Thomas Bjorn 3.334
31 Webb Simpson 3.325
32 Jason Dufner 3.262
33 Joost Luiten 3.218
34 Stephen Gallacher 3.177
35 Kevin Na 3.171
36 Luke Donald 3.162
37 Mikko Ilonen 3.029 <===Volvo Match Play Winner
38 Miguel A Jimenez 3.001
39 Kevin Streelman 2.920
40 Ryan Palmer 2.918
41 Thongchai Jaidee 2.857 *
42 Graham Delaet 2.818 *
43 Ian Poulter 2.810 *
44 Brendon Todd 2.797
45 Brandt Snedeker 2.794 *
46 Lee Westwood 2.776
47 Marc Leishman 2.763 *
48 Ryan Moore 2.760 *
49 Gary Woodland 2.595
50 Ernie Els 2.557

==>Bubble Point for HSBC (this week) and Masters (end of Year)

51 John Senden 2.552
52 Francesco Molinari 2.551 *
53 Shane Lowry 2.444 *
54 Angel Cabrera 2.390
55 Russell Henley 2.373
56 Kevin Stadler 2.369
57 Ben Martin 2.354 <===Winner Shriners
58 Jonas Blixt 2.324
59 Brooks Koepka 2.322 *
60 Louis Oosthuizen 2.234
61 Harris English 2.227 *
62 Tommy Fleetwood 2.216 *
63 J.B. Holmes 2.203
64 Matt Every 2.186 *
65 Matt Jones 2.160 *
66 Paul Casey 2.112 *
67 Marc Warren 2.088 *
68 Koumei Oda 2.076 *
69 Pablo Larrazabal 2.021 *
70 Bernd Wiesberger 2.014 *
71 Cameron Tringale 1.937
72 Brian Harman 1.921
73 Alexander Levy 1.905 *
74 Richard Sterne 1.845 *
75 Charley Hoffman 1.823
76 Freddie Jacobson 1.821 *
77 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 1.808 *
78 Geoff Ogilvy 1.796
79 Erik Compton 1.782
80 Russell Knox 1.723 *
81 George Coetzee 1.722 *
82 Tim Clark 1.685
83 Ryo Ishikawa 1.684 *
84 Steven Bowditch 1.683 *
85 Kim Hyung-sung 1.660 *
86 K.J. Choi 1.652 *
87 George McNeill 1.652 *
88 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.643 *
89 Chris Stroud 1.637 *
90 Anirban Lahiri 1.631 *
91 Nick Watney 1.623 *
92 Yuta Ikeda 1.603 *  <===Winner Japan Open
93 Edoardo Molinari 1.602 *
94 Bae Sang-moon 1.591
95 Chesson Hadley 1.568 *
96 Danny Willett 1.556 *
97 Kevin Chappell 1.550 *
98 Richie Ramsay 1.522 *
99 Fabrizio Zanotti 1.507 *
100 Noh Seung-yul 1.506
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101 Brendon de Jonge 1.502
102 Matteo Manassero 1.499
103 Shingo Katayama 1.493

~133 Scott Hend        1.246 <===Wins Hong Kong
~399 Johan Edfors 0.436 <===Wins on Challenge Tour


I think everyone in the top 40 have virtually clinched a top 50 End of Year ranking which I am estimating to be 2.55 based on last years rankings at this point and end of year.  Players ranked worse than 40th and not exempt into Masters are denoted with asterisk.


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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 20 Oct 2014, 3:14 am

Cheers GPB,
Think one or two of this week's points scorers are in different positions than you suggest, but this continues to highlight how close some rankings are and how close some are going to be at year's end, especially around the 50th place.

And Nick Watney, to pick just one, is a good example of a golfer who is losing points and whose semi-good finishes don't really compensate.
Some popular players on this board will be similarly hitting the skids pretty soon!

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Post by GPB Mon 20 Oct 2014, 4:16 am

I thought I sorted it!! Doh I will edit.

Seems like when a relatively unknown player wins on the PGATour, he jumps to the Top 50 bubble position. And more often than not, they fail to jump the hurdle.

Streelman, Stadler, Henley, Senden, Noh, Holmes, Every, Jones, and Harman all won in the last year and got close to the top 50 (or just barely in it) and just could not validate with another good tournament to place them solidly inside the top 50.

I suspect Ben Martin will suffer the same fate.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Mon 20 Oct 2014, 10:21 am

I wonder what odds you'd have got at the start of the year that Gentleman Jim would be the highest ranked American by some way? Or that there would be only 4 Americans in the top 10?
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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 20 Oct 2014, 10:52 am

Long odds indeed!


GPB,
I wonder if the answer to your furrowed brow this morning will be Graham DeLaet?

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Post by robopz Wed 22 Oct 2014, 2:56 pm

GPB wrote:Seems like when a relatively unknown player wins on the PGATour, he jumps to the Top 50 bubble position.  And more often than not, they fail to jump the hurdle.

Streelman, Stadler, Henley, Senden, Noh, Holmes, Every, Jones, and Harman all won in the last year and got close to the top 50 (or just barely in it) and just could not validate with another good tournament to place them solidly inside the top 50.

I suspect Ben Martin will suffer the same fate.
Interesting and true comments about so many first time winners not being able to validate to get solidly in the top-50...

Scanning the 2nd-50....  May not be time for any of these guys to get top-50 by year end, but I actually like Martin to be one of those 25-50 fixtures soon enough... English, Sang-moon Bae & Casey (again) as well... and possibly Fleetwood, Henley, Knox & Stroud. And I actually see BETTER than that for Koepka.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the 11-25 range by year end.... I think he's potentially that good.

EDIT: Also surprised McGladrey rated out 10 ERV's higher than last year... my early glance at the field  I was expecting it to be less, especially considering all the webbies got in this year (actually all the entered 126-150 guys made it in too)... Course it didn't hurt that only one Major Medical entered: Scott Piercy

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Post by incontinentia Wed 22 Oct 2014, 3:46 pm

Robo- ever heard of a guy called Shane Lowry??
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Post by kwinigolfer Wed 22 Oct 2014, 3:51 pm

Don't you think there's a touch of the Horschels about Koepka?
A little bit of course management and a hot putter will get him where you think he belongs, robo!

As Roger Waters sang:
"Do you remember Shane?"!!

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Post by robopz Wed 22 Oct 2014, 3:53 pm

incontinentia wrote:Robo- ever heard of a guy called Shane Lowry??
Absolutely... and I like him even though I'm not quite sure what to make of him. But he's certainly been trending in the right direction since mid-summer, hasn't he?

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Post by incontinentia Wed 22 Oct 2014, 4:04 pm

Yes he's been playing very well since May, done everything but capture a win. Can see him holding on to a top-50 spot next year.
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Post by robopz Wed 22 Oct 2014, 4:06 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Don't you think there's a touch of the Horschels about Koepka?
A little bit of course management and a hot putter will get him where you think he belongs, robo!

As Roger Waters sang:
"Do you remember Shane?"!!
LOL... yeah... I addressed Shane to incontinentia

Could be some similarities between Horschel and Keopka... but for now, I'd prefer both to continue playing "balls to the wall" and see where it takes them. They'll learn from their course management mistakes and adjust, and actually I think Billy is doing quite well in that regard already. His big mistakes seem to have been more poor execution instead of poor decisions... and that's gonna happen sometimes.

But either way... IMO Billy and Brooks are breaths of fresh air... but admittedly, I just don't know if my HOPES they do well are clouding my judgement if the actually will do well in the long run.

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Post by GPB Wed 22 Oct 2014, 5:06 pm

Here is a list of relatively surprising  PGATour surprising winners, their ranking after the tournament, and their current ranking.

English … Mayakorba … 54th … 61st
Stallings … Farmers … 53rd … 117th
Stadler … WMO … 57th … 56th
Henley … Honda … 46th … 53rd
Senden … Valspar … 60th … 52nd
Every … Bay Hill … 44th … 58th
Jones … Houston … 41st … 64th
SY Noh … Zurich … 88th … 91st
Holmes … Wells Fargo … 68th … 60th
Todd … Nelson … 63rd … 45th
Streelman … Hartford … 36th … 39th
Cabrera … Greenbrier … 56th … 56th
Harman … John Deere … 70th … 66th
Clark … Canadian … 75th … 84th

All these players really haven't validated their win with good play to improve their rankings. Mostly they tread water. Senden and Todd had some good play after their win, but they really have been playing poorly lately.

Of course this is confirmation bias, as Jimmy Walker, Chris Kirk, Patrick Reed were relatively unknown players who not only won early in the 2013-14 season, and then won again

And players like Kevin Na and Ryan Palmer were able to bust through Top 50 barrier with consistent play and without winning a tournament and are currently inside the top 40.

Steve Bowditch win in the Texas Open only got to 134th and his ranking has improved to 82nd.

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Post by GPB Sun 26 Oct 2014, 2:22 pm

Some tentative rough projections:

Oleson gets back into top 100 (approximately #85) with his win in the Perth International.

Koumei Oda climbs to about #55 with his win in the Bridgestone Open.

Anirbar Lahiri wins the Venetian Macau Open, and gets to about OWGR #70

Looks like the Kolon Korea Open was delayed by Fog.  Seung-hyuk Kim is leading with 5 holes to play in the 4th round.  Should he go onto win he will get to about #120.  He is currently -2 for the tournament.

Seung Yul Noh is the clubhouse leader at Even par so apparently the course is playing tough.  

Some McGladreys Projections with a win

Svoboda to about #85
MacKenzie to about #70
Henley to about #40
Kirk to #15

SuperRealist Tiger Watch.

Looks like he is dropping at three spots (4 if Chris Kirk wins).

GMac and Walker are passing him through attrition and VDub passed him with a 2nd place in Australia.

Edit:  VDub didn't pass Woods this week, but he will next week.


The European Tour Website still has not published a field for the BMW Masters yet.

I do know Stenson, Rose, Kirk, GMac, Doobie, Donaldson, Bjorn, Luiten, Jimenez, Els, Poulter, Gonzo, Jaidee, and Ryan Palmer are playing.

Gonzo has played 35 tournaments in the last 52 weeks.  He and Brendon de Jonge are playing a lot of tournaments.


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Post by pedro Sun 26 Oct 2014, 6:57 pm

Good to see Olesen win again. Has the potential to be a top player. Hopefully he'll get some good results in the last few tourneys.

To judge from Jabba de Jonge's sack one shouldn't think he played more than a few rounds per year... cake

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Post by GPB Sun 26 Oct 2014, 10:39 pm

Streb, Oleson, WillieMac, and BdJ all get inside the top 90 with their performances this weekend. BdJ the highest, at 80th.

Nick Watney is about to fall outside the top 100 of the OWGR. I wonder how he is liking that Nike contract he signed two years ago?

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Post by GPB Mon 27 Oct 2014, 5:56 pm

Preliminary OWGR ratings this week.

CIMB - 40 (last year it was 48)
BMWMasters - 46 (last year it was 50)


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Post by pedro Mon 27 Oct 2014, 7:55 pm

GPB wrote:
Nick Watney is about to fall outside the top 100 of the OWGR.  I wonder how he is liking that Nike contract he signed two years ago?
The stock price of those Nike boys go up and down like the Dow. Olesen on the rebound (it seems), Rory definitely, Tiger and Watney going the other way. Could you see them sponsor steady eddies like Furyk? Whistle

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Post by pedro Mon 27 Oct 2014, 7:58 pm

How good does winning Kolon Open sound to you? Shocked

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Post by super_realist Tue 28 Oct 2014, 6:45 am

Despite them having McIlroy, I still see Nike as a second rate manufacturer. I just don't like their gear at all.

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Post by raycastleunited Tue 28 Oct 2014, 1:04 pm

super_realist wrote:Despite them having McIlroy, I still see Nike as a second rate manufacturer. I just don't like their gear at all.

I don't have any Nike equipment, but have heard that these days the forged blades, Covert drivers, and some of the putters are quite good. I think they've churned out some real dross over the last 10-15 years though.

Only Nike gear I have is clothing: base layers, waterproofs, etc. Given their heritage I would imagine they would be capable of making decent golf shoes.

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Post by GPB Tue 28 Oct 2014, 2:14 pm

When Rory signed with Nike two years ago, Watney, Oleson and Kyle Stanley also signed.

Watney has fallen from about 20th to 100th
Oleson fell from about 65th to 120th (win last week brings him back to the 80's)
Stanley has fallen from about 60th to 300th.

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Post by super_realist Tue 28 Oct 2014, 2:15 pm

GPB wrote:When Rory signed with Nike two years ago, Watney, Oleson and Kyle Stanley also signed.

Watney has fallen from about 20th to 100th
Oleson fell from about 65th to 120th (win last week brings him back to the 80's)
Stanley has fallen from about 60th to 300th.

Don't forget 9C's hysterical fall.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Tue 28 Oct 2014, 2:38 pm

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:When Rory signed with Nike two years ago, Watney, Oleson and Kyle Stanley also signed.

Watney has fallen from about 20th to 100th
Oleson fell from about 65th to 120th (win last week brings him back to the 80's)
Stanley has fallen from about 60th to 300th.

Don't forget 9C's hysterical fall.

Not sure Nike are to blame for that one....

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Post by SmithersJones Tue 28 Oct 2014, 2:40 pm

I know Nike are more insistent than some manufacturers on their contract players using their kit and nothing but their kit (cf Jamie Donaldson's deal with TM) but I can't believe the difference between their clubs and Titleist's is sufficient to explain the demises of Watney, Stanley et al. I used to be a Titleist devotee, and I still rate their gear but you'd have to prise my Nike Pro Combos from my cold, dead hands as they say. In fact, I've recently replaced the 6&7 irons with the blades, because I get on so well with the 8,9 & PW that came with the set. The original mid irons are cb type clubs, and they're good but the blades are just awesome.
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Post by GPB Tue 28 Oct 2014, 2:56 pm

I think the biggest barometer of how good a manufacturer is are the mini tour players. The players that are not getting paid to play TaylorMade, Titleist, Nike or any other manufacturer.

I know a guy that plays Minitours here in the Midwest and South. Few are getting paid to play any clubs. And he says virtually no one has Nike equipment. Titleist and TaylorMade have the most presence.

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Post by super_realist Tue 28 Oct 2014, 3:02 pm

I'm sure for most of us there is little performance advantage to be gained through equipment manufacturers, what I do know is that I like the quality feel of Mizuno irons.
Could I hit a Nike just as well, probably.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 30 Oct 2014, 11:25 am

HSBC Champions field as things stand:

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014088/teetimes/index.html

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Post by GPB Thu 30 Oct 2014, 2:35 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:HSBC Champions field as things stand:

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014088/teetimes/index.html

Its a better field than I was expecting. I got it rated right as a Strong 66 or Weak 68. Pretty good considering both #1 (Rory) and #3 (Furyk) are not in the field. Sergio and/or Rose overtaking Furyk would probably secure a 68 rating.

Every player (except Brendon Todd) ranked from #32 to #54 is in the field so the Top 50 bubble could get even more muddier than it already is.

Alternate list was interesting with SY Noh, Frankie, and El Pato as the top 3 alternates. I can't see El Pato being in China waiting on three WDs.

Graham Delaet WD this week, so I would guess there is a chance that Noh gets in the tournament. He is playing CIMB this week.

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Post by Shotrock Thu 30 Oct 2014, 2:44 pm

There are times, I suspect, I could talk manufacturers into paying me to NOT play their clubs. Given some of my errant shots, they simply don't want anyone making an association with their brand. Wink

Rory, like Tiger before him, may be playing clubs with a Nike Logo on them, but are more likely total custom jobs.

GPB - That's an interesting point about the mini tours and what they use.

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Post by GPB Sun 02 Nov 2014, 12:05 am

With a win:

Levy could get to #42. Barely
Donaldson could get to #15
Siem could get to #70
Rose could get to #3 (depending on Sergio). Rose cannot pass Furyk w/o winning. But would pass Stenson with a two tie for 2nd.

CIMB

Na could get to #19
Moore could get to #25
Sergio gets to #3 with a solo 2nd or better, and #3 with a solo 4th or better if Rose doesn't win.
Hurley gets to about 80th.

On the Japanese Tour, Koumei Oda is in 4th going into final round. could get to 48th with a win.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Nov 2014, 11:59 am

Not sure how this will all work out after Sunday's action, but IJP is going to wake up trying to find his rip-cord; looks like he'll drop about four places? Another also-ran effort and he'll be leaving the Top 50 sooner than his worst nightmares.

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Post by GPB Sun 02 Nov 2014, 3:38 pm

If my Math is correct, IJP only fell one spot. Moore and Woodland passed him, but he went ahead of DeLaet (who WD)

His T48 finish was enough for minimum points, without them, both Westwood and Leishman would have passed him. Every points counts.

Sneds (who is not qualified for the Masters) is really in jeopardy. He is now ranked 49th and I think he has only one tournament left, next weeks HSBC. Unless he decides to play Mayakorba the following weeks.

Marcel Siem gets to #70, Moore #27,

An Oda wins in Japan but not Koumei (who finished T2), Ryuchi Oda wins in Japan and gets to approximately #340.

Max Orrin from England wins in Oman on the Challenge Tour and gets inside the top 400.

I wonder if there has ever been a Mens golf tournament where #1 won, #2 finished solo second, and #3 finished solo third. It happened on the LPGA this week where InBee Park won, Stacy Lewis finished 2nd and Lydia Ko finished 3rd.

This is how the rankings around the Top 50 bubble is looking.

Those players with Asterisks are already qualified for the Masters.

44 Ian Poulter 2.744
45 Lee Westwood 2.741 *
46 Graham Delaet 2.719
47 Marc Leishman 2.707
48 Brendon Todd 2.668 *
49 Brandt Snedeker 2.660
50 John Senden 2.618 *
51 Shane Lowry 2.500
52 Ernie Els 2.477 *
53 Francesco Molinari 2.461
54 Koumei Oda 2.458


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Post by GPB Sun 02 Nov 2014, 3:48 pm

Some other notable OWGR movement.

Sergio moves to #3.
Horschel passed Kaymer to #12
Doobie edges pass Tiger to #19.

Tiger is now #20, he should fall at least 3 spots next week from attrition as Kirk, Mahan and Matsuyama should pass him.

Kevin Na is 28th
Alexander Levy is 59th
Ross Fisher is 85th

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Post by pedro Sun 02 Nov 2014, 7:10 pm

Cheers GPB. OK

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Nov 2014, 7:39 pm

Thanks GPB.
Still no word of any defections from the HSBC Champions field, although DeLaet must be considered doubtful. Two Molinaris amongst the handful of alternates - doesn't look like their lucky week.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 04 Nov 2014, 3:35 pm

Looks like an owgr 68 point rating for the HSBC; DeLaet (disc problem in his neck) still a declared starter, no word of anyone else dropping out.

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Post by GPB Tue 04 Nov 2014, 4:47 pm

HSBC is a solid 68. A Delaet WD would not affect it the rating. Especially if he is replaced by Frankie. The only way it drops if one of the top rank players WD (or multiple WDs).

40 of the top 50 are in the field, but most of the absentees (eight) are from the top 20. Just Stricker and Webb are missing from #21 to #52.



A win by Adam Scott would about halve the gap between him and Rory.

Sergio can get to #2 with a solo second and poor result from Adam.

Stenson, Rose, and possibly Bubba can also get to #2, but they have to win.

Rickie can get to #7

Horschel, Kaymer, Spieth, and GMAC can crash the top 10 with a win.

Anyone in the top 50 can get into the top 20 with a win.


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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 06 Nov 2014, 10:26 pm

DeLaet w/d for his second week running - he'll be plummeting in the rankings at the worst possible time.
Stadler w/d with a bad wrist - kinda surprised he has anything except arm between his shoulders and his fingers, no elbow, wrist of hand.

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Post by super_realist Fri 07 Nov 2014, 7:49 am

GPB wrote:HSBC is a solid 68.  A Delaet WD would not affect it the rating.  Especially if he is replaced by Frankie.  The only way it drops if one of the top rank players WD (or multiple WDs).

40 of the top 50 are in the field, but most of the absentees (eight) are from the top 20.  Just Stricker and Webb are missing from #21 to #52.



A win by Adam Scott would about halve the gap between him and Rory.

Sergio can get to #2 with a solo second and poor result from Adam.

Stenson, Rose, and possibly Bubba can also get to #2, but they have to win.

Rickie can get to #7

Horschel, Kaymer, Spieth, and GMAC can crash the top 10 with a win.

Anyone in the top 50 can get into the top 20 with a win.


Fowler to 7? Laugh What can he get to with a 2nd, because the likelihood of him winning is about the same as taking a dump in the queens handbag.

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Post by hend085 Fri 07 Nov 2014, 9:01 am

whats the deal with Brody NINYETTE? currently 32 over par in China. must be cursing the lack of a cut

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Post by GPB Sat 08 Nov 2014, 8:38 pm

Should GMac go on to win, he will probably be #11. He would have passed Fowler to get into top 10 but with Fowler doing well, he won't pass him.

Bubba is projected to pass Rose in the rankings.

Iwata could spoil someone's Top 50 ranking if he goes on to win. He could get as high as #40 (from #125) depending on how well others do.

Top 50 watch:

Poulters present position of T7 should be just enough to keep in the top 50 at year end. He can't afford to have a bad round tomorrow.

Sneds top 50 standing is still very vulnerable despite his T10th position. He is projected 48th with the T10 finish. He probably needs a Top 5 finish to be safe.

Delaet is very vulnerable too. I would guess that he is out for rest of the year, and I don't think he has enough points to hold onto a top 50 ranking.

Shane Lowry is not helping his Top 50 chances at all this week. As of right now, he is not projected to fall, but the gap between him and the #50 spot is increasing.

And Blixt, Levy, Henley, Els, Oosty could easily pass him with good rounds tomorrow. Even Koumei Oda on the Japanese Tour could pass him if he can improve his T7 position to a third place finish.

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Post by GPB Sun 09 Nov 2014, 2:59 pm

Great win for Bubba gets him back to #3 OWGR, tying his highest ranking ever. He is about 0.3 behind Adam Scott for the #3 spot and 0.7 pts ahead of #4 Sergio

Poulter fought for a T6 finish, which should be enough to secure a year end Top 50 finish. He should be #41 in the new rankings.

Sned's T10th gets him to #46 but still highly vulnerable of falling out of top 50.

Lowry had a good final round and holds onto to #51 spot (assuming Ben Martin does not win in Mississippi today). Assuming he is in the Turkey Field, he probably needs a top 10 to crack the Top 50 next week.

Benjamin Hebert from France wins the Challenge Tour finale (3 wins this year) in Dubai. He should get inside the top 120.

Tomohiro Kondo wins in Japan, and also gets inside the top 120.

Sang Moon Bae wins in Korea and climbs into top 80.

SSP Chowrasia wins the Panasonic Open in his home country of India and should get inside the Top 225.

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Tim Clark should be 58th or 59th (depending on how Ben Martin does)

Iwata gets into the top 80

Rickie Fowler from 10th to 9th
GMac from 17th to 15th.

Mickelson remains 11th and Woods falls 3 spots to #23.

Dustin Johnson is #16...same place that he was when he started his sabbatical 3 months ago.

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Projection for Sanderson Farms:

With a win

Rollins can get about 225th
McGirt ( 90th)
Glover (250th)
Bohn ( 110th)

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Why has the Eurotour not released a tentative field for Turkey?

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Post by kouchi Mon 10 Nov 2014, 1:18 am

GPB wrote:Why has the Eurotour not released a tentative field for Turkey?
Because the field depends on today's HSBC outcome. Next weeks Belek field will be finalized according to the R2D ranking after the HSBC.
(...or is there still hope 9C will come over to losen up his golfing moves and to get rid of some rust just before the Hero? In exchange for a couple of quid. Or Lira that is.)

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 10 Nov 2014, 1:37 pm

Turkey time:

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014090/teetimes/index.html

Doesn't look a great field, and nor does Mayakoba which is disappointing - better weather forecast than for last year though.

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Post by GPB Mon 10 Nov 2014, 4:17 pm

kouchi wrote:
GPB wrote:Why has the Eurotour not released a tentative field for Turkey?
Because the field depends on today's HSBC outcome. Next weeks Belek field will be finalized according to the R2D ranking after the HSBC.
(...or is there still hope 9C will come over to losen up his golfing moves and to get rid of some rust just before the Hero? In exchange for a couple of quid. Or Lira that is.)


I was looking for a tentative field, not necessarily the complete field. Most of the 78 players were already qualified.

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Post by GPB Mon 10 Nov 2014, 5:55 pm

Tentatively Turkey is going to be worth 48 pts to winner, worth 52 last year.

Mayakorba is probably worth a subsidized 24 pts to the winner.

Sergio and Henrik can pass Bubba (who is playing in Japan).

I thought Bubba could pass Adam if he won in Japan, but he is gaining a tournament in his divisor while Adam is losing a tournament so #2 is out of reach.

Another chance for Lowry, Molinari, and Koepka to crack the top 50.

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Post by incontinentia Tue 11 Nov 2014, 12:24 pm

Dustin Johnson has moved up in the rankings despite not playing for more than 3 months!!
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Post by GPB Tue 11 Nov 2014, 4:24 pm

incontinentia wrote:Dustin Johnson has moved up in the rankings despite not playing for more than 3 months!!

Losing tournaments off your divisor is a way to tread water in the rankings.  His divisor was 50 when he started his sabbatical, and its now 43. His average will be 3.79 at year which will probably be about 20th.

He says he is not returning until Paulina delivers their baby which I think is supposed to be February. Honda or Cadillac could be his return to the game.

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Post by GPB Fri 14 Nov 2014, 7:16 pm

Some Tentative Projections

Turkey

Poulter and Jimenez can get to #23 with a win. (edging past Tiger)

BdJ can get as high as to #48.

Lowry needs at least 6th place or better to get into Top 50.
Koepka needs a two tie for 2nd to get into top 50.

Bubba is 2nd in Japan, he cannot pass Adam Scott even if he wins. Koumei Oda missed the cut, so he will not be impacting the top 50 this week.

Dufner is 5th in Thailand, he can get to #25 with a win.


None of the Mayakorba leaders can impact the top 50. Charley Hoffman is the highest ranked player on the leaderboard and if he wins he gets to about 70th.

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Post by robopz Sat 15 Nov 2014, 10:11 am

GPB... thanks for the updates.  Looks like Bubba or Dufner won't be getting much OWGR sugar this week.

Also reports are Paulina's baby is due quicker than we might have expected from judging airport baby bumps (4-5 weeks)... and other reports seem to indicate DJ & partner Wayne return  at the AT&T Pebble Beach...

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