We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread

by Hammersmith harrier Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:45 am

First topic message reminder :

Silva has just won me a tidy £640, next goalscorer and City to score at least five, woohoo.

by 1GrumpyGolfer Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:42 am

Stella wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Chelsea are appealing against the red card and in fairness it was a shocking tackle....

But If you allow retaliation here then you must allow it in other circumstances as well..

Not a hope in hell............

No doubt another conspiracy theory coming up............

Yeah, tough titties I'm afraid. The red Matic red was the correct decision.

I think they're appealing on the basis that Routledge got his red for retaliation at QPR rescinded. However, I think Routledge slipped and that made it look a lot worse than it was, very different from what Matic did. If the FA deem it as frivalous appeal then they could tack on extra games.

by guildfordbat Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:43 am

westisbest wrote: ...

The thing for me as a Villa fan its sad to see how far we have fallen.

Eurpoean cup winners.
First season of the prem, runners up to Utd,
Constant top half finishes.
Won the carling cup in 94 & 96.

...

Westy,

Just in case you don't know (as it would have been before your time), the Villa side which won the European Cup had more than a fair bit of talent plus masses of spirit and strength. Incredible in this day and age to recall that when you won the League the year before in '81, Villa only used 14 players the entire season.

You've obviously fallen since those days but I think you'll escape the drop this year. Considering how few goals you've scored, it's amazing you're not in a worse position. That suggests teams at least aren't running all over you and how poor the others in and around the drop zone must be. If Sherwood can instil some confidence, the goals and points should start to come. Good luck!

by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:44 am

FA confirm Ashley Barnes faces no punishment for foul on Matic picard

by Stella Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:48 am

John wrote:FA confirm Ashley Barnes faces no punishment for foul on Matic

Is that because the ref saw the incident? How he did and not issue a card is beyond me, mind.

by Fernando Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:56 am

The problem is the ref was behind the incident so he saw it but not the seriousness of it

by GSC Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:03 am

Yeah that's the hole in FIFAs law. Nothing the FA can do.

Still don't think its that bad mind, don't think there's much intent

by Stella Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:16 am

Difficult to tell. I personally feel he saw Matic, and meant it.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:40 am

Personally dont think theres any change in movement in his leg after kicking the ball so dont think theres intent. Still think its a red though

by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:12 am

Doesn't matter if there is intent or not, awful challenge, late & definitely dangerous. Should of been banned, ridiculous stuff all this he's seen it, hasn't seen it nonsense or what's written in the report & what's not. Get rid of this nonsense bureaucracy & ban players properly for justifiably dangerous challenges, otherwise people will continue to get away with it.

by **hampo17** Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:15 am

How was it late when Barnes got to the ball about 2 seconds before Matic? People are also acting like its a tackle, if you watch the video, Barnes passes the ball and its the follow through that then catches Matic, can't call it an awful challenge based on that either.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:16 am

I still think its a red because hes not in control enough.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:22 am

I think it's about time referees started booking Chelsea players for surrounding the referee on every available occasion........

Not their fault they are obviously told to by the Son of God...........but it's blatant attempted bullying of officials....

by GSC Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:24 am

Its reckless and dangerous. Should be a red. Don't think its as bad as made out mind

by **hampo17** Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:30 am

Personally I found the one on Ivanovic to be a worse foul, the one on Matic had no intent and occurred because of a follow through, the one on Ivanovic was a blatant kick and had intent to hurt.

by 1GrumpyGolfer Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:16 am

Just seen that Burnley are top of the Premier League fair play chart with 0 red cards and 46 yellow cards Laugh

They're one of two teams not to have a player sent off; Stoke are the other one.

Suppose it's not surprising if the referee fails to referee....

by NickisBHAFC Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:46 am

Feels strange seeing Ashley Barnes at the Center of everything at the moment!

by Ent Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:57 am

Caught him with the follow through of a pass, can't see what the fuss is about.

by Hammersmith harrier Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:36 am

Wouldn't be any fuss if it wasn't dear old Chelsea.

by westisbest Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:38 am

guildfordbat wrote:
westisbest wrote: ...

The thing for me as a Villa fan its sad to see how far we have fallen.

Eurpoean cup winners.
First season of the prem, runners up to Utd,
Constant top half finishes.
Won the carling cup in 94 & 96.

...

Westy,

Just in case you don't know (as it would have been before your time), the Villa side which won the European Cup had more than a fair bit of talent plus masses of spirit and strength. Incredible in this day and age to recall that when you won the League the year before in '81, Villa only used 14 players the entire season.

You've obviously fallen since those days but I think you'll escape the drop this year. Considering how few goals you've scored, it's amazing you're not in a worse position. That suggests teams at least aren't running all over you and how poor the others in and around the drop zone must be. If Sherwood can instil some confidence, the goals and points should start to come. Good luck!

Cheers guildford.
Yeah was only a very young lad when we won the european cup.
I know only 13 goals scored you would think we would be a few points adrift at the foot of the table.

We'll see in the remaining 12 games what the players are made of.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:44 am

westisbest wrote:Well hopefully now that Lambert has gone, Sherwood can get us playing better.

I cant see Bournemouth being that entertaining next season if they come up.

For their sake if they do come up I hope they prove me wrong.

What about Norwich?

I'd fancy the top scorers in the Football League pyramid this season to be quite entertaining if they went up myself but each to their own, Howe is also a good young manager.

We'd need serious strengthening if we come up

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:45 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re5c-HPPvIE&feature=youtu.be

Sean Dyche - excellent, honest interview. I can't make out if Dyche is really intimidating or really friendly tho

by Guest Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:55 am

I think Dyche is even worried about your fascination with him

by **Hero** Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:33 am

Irony?

Any news from MUFC tonight?

by Ent Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:44 pm

Hero wrote:Irony?

Any news from MUFC tonight?

We're Poopie and we know we are!

by mystiroakey Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:13 am

hampo171 wrote:Personally I found the one on Ivanovic to be a worse foul, the one on Matic had no intent and occurred because of a follow through, the one on Ivanovic was a blatant kick and had intent to hurt.

thats how i saw it- he cleared it and it was on the follow through- the challenge looked horrid slow mo- but I doubt there was any intent

by Guest Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:29 am

Olly wrote:

Sean Dyche - excellent, honest interview. I can't make out if Dyche is really intimidating or really friendly tho

He can be whatever you want him to be, Olly. kiss

by Fernando Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:32 am

Matic get ban reduced to 2 games.

Chelsea are "appalled"

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:44 am

Misses the final but is back for West Ham. Ridiculous decision, its either violent conduct or not

by Fernando Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:47 am

What they are saying if you think you've had a bad tackle you may shove them over and get a 2 game ban not 3.

by **hampo17** Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:48 pm

Does that mean the non league player who body slammed a player may get his ban reduced?

by compelling and rich Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:53 am

van gaal spouting some nonsense saying we havent challenged because we havent got a 20 goals a season striker! weve got plenty just need to stop playing this sh!t slow build up and providing no service whatsoever

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:58 am

compelling and rich wrote:van gaal spouting some nonsense saying we havent challenged because we havent got a 20 goals a season striker! weve got plenty just need to stop playing this sh!t slow build up and providing no service whatsoever

Haven't got a 20 goal a season striker? What are you paying over a half a million in wages a week on in Rooney, RVP and Falcao then?!

by Guest Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:58 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2971942/Robbie-Savage-t-use-trains-buses-people-hate-says-lawyer-BBC-BT-Sport-pundit-avoids-driving-ban-speeding.html

Laugh

by westisbest Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:56 pm

Ha freek, heard about that.

Its ridiculous.

If he wasn't such a jacka55 people wouldn't hate him.

I cant stand the bloke.

by Ent Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:47 pm

Have to say it is good work by his legal representation. Clocking 99 mph on the motorway and keeping your licence.

by mystiroakey Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:04 pm

compelling and rich wrote:van gaal spouting some nonsense saying we havent challenged because we havent got a 20 goals a season striker! weve got plenty just need to stop playing this sh!t slow build up and providing no service whatsoever

he said what!

he has 3- he just isnt playing them in the correct place.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:07 pm

What he actually said was a criticism of Falcao and Van Persie, suggesting they haven't been good enough this season.

by **hampo17** Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:10 pm

You've lumped a lot of faith and money on Falcao who hadn't shown he had recovered from his injuries. Sadly it he looks half the striker he once was.

by CFCNick Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:17 pm

I said Falcao was past it before he left Atletico. He had his 2-3 top seasons and that's it for most players. His injury will mask the fact his decline started before he even played a game for Monaco.

by mystiroakey Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:22 pm

Well if you stick rooney or RVP up front with matta behind- you have a 20 goal a league striker. Man U need better than average midfielders..

by **hampo17** Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:23 pm

There's being past it in your movement, but the chances he is missing are basic and things that even at Monaco he would have scored in his sleep. Some you would expect non league players to score, he just seems to lack any faith in his ability.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:30 pm

The kind of chances that Owen and Solskjaer were still slotting away with ease having had far more injury setbacks, I think it's a lack of confidence more than anything. Whoever buys him in the Summer will benefit from mollycoddling him.

Carrick is back so we'll see an upsurge in our performances and results, if only other fans realised how good he actually is.

by Guest Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:56 pm

CFCNick wrote:I said Falcao was passed it before he left Atletico. He had his 2-3 top seasons and that's it for most players.

What a load of nonsense. Very easy to sit there & say that now.

09/10 - 34 goals - Porto
10/11 - 38 goals - Porto
11/12 - 36 goals - Atletico
12/13 - 34 goals - Atletico (you're saying he was declining during this point in time, having scored 34 in 41 games at the age of just 27?)
13/14 - 9 goals in 17 apps, then injured - Monaco

Although I agree, Falcao isn't the same player, United's creativity has been woeful, if not non-existent, hence the issues in goal scoring for all three of United's top strikers.

by mystiroakey Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:03 pm

Isn't he actually 2 years older than stated. Or is that some urban myth?

by CFCNick Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:07 pm

John wrote:
CFCNick wrote:I said Falcao was passed it before he left Atletico. He had his 2-3 top seasons and that's it for most players.

What a load of nonsense. Very easy to sit there & say that now.

09/10 - 34 goals - Porto
10/11 - 38 goals - Porto
11/12 - 36 goals - Atletico
12/13 - 34 goals - Atletico (you're saying he was declining during this point in time, having scored 34 in 41 games at the age of just 27?)
13/14 - 9 goals in 17 apps, then injured - Monaco

Although I agree, Falcao isn't the same player, United's creativity has been woeful, if not non-existent, hence the issues in goal scoring for all three of United's top strikers.

Yes he was. Not as evident as now but you could see. I'm not sure if it was on here but I did mention it when he was linked to Chelsea in the 2013 summer window that his best years were behind him.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:19 pm

So it was the season he scored a hat-trick against you lot that you realised he was past it?

by Guest Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:25 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:So it was the season he scored a hat-trick against you lot that you realised he was past it?

As I said, nonsense.

by kingraf Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:46 pm

Re: Falcao

I did say during the transfer season (the July one) that he was a risky acquisition when he was linked with Madrid, simply because he was a 28-year old coming back from knee surgery. Never great to be right about great/really good players being cut in their prime, but I just wanna take this moment to tell Gerry I told him so.

by mystiroakey Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:22 pm

Palace on telly.. Very Happy

by NickisBHAFC Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:24 am

Glenn Murray booked and on a final warning. Should of been booked for diving there IMO.

All palace though so far.

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