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Post by hampo17 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:15

Fight will be announced tomorrow I believe but it looks like he's got a shot at the WBC title. I'm sure some will say he doesn't deserve it etc, but hopefully he can come home with the title.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:20

Why not. Good luck to him !!...........Sick of fighters peeing around fighting chaff!!. For me the kid looks good enough now..he's in prime form and in great shape....

Go for it..

I think he beats Degale and Groves.....I really rate him !!

Joshua take note..

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Post by milkyboy Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:25

Getting your smiths mixed up I think truss. Callum and Paul are the super middles.

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Post by hampo17 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:25

You think a super featherweight beats a super middleweight?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:26

What a shame..........

Stephen didn't he lose to Selby ??

Bit of a joke this guy getting a shot..........Hope he gets panned out..

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Post by hampo17 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:27

Why is it a joke? Worked his way back up the rankings, jumped through the hoops the WBC set out.

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:28

Good on him, Truly believe you have to keep upping your game and fighting opposition that will challenge you or your going to regress.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:31

hampo171 wrote:Why is it a joke? Worked his way back up the rankings, jumped through the hoops the WBC set out.

Don't get so sensitive...........

Depends what you interpret as "Working" his way through the rankings..........

I'm not a fan of alphabet rankings..............I've had 37 years of watching the various anomalies..Since I watched Norton v Holmes..

How many years have you had ??

Or do you only respect them when it suits you ..??

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Post by hampo17 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:33

If you can prove I don't respect a fighter feel free Truss, if not stop acting like a petulant child. You've pointed out a loss he had nearly four years ago as a reason for him not to get a title shot.

Like it or not, he's done what he has had to do in order to get a title shot today, doesn't matter what went on in years gone by.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:34

Good luck stephen hope you bring the belt home

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:35

Lee Selby has had a loss too does that mean he should not get a title shot?

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:36

Bringing up the fact he lost is a bigger problem to the sport than anything else Truss. Fighters should be fighting the best and nearest to them at all opportunities.

C'mon Lil Smith, you can do this.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:38

wheelchair1991 wrote:Lee Selby has had a loss too does that mean he should not get a title shot?

Lee selby has proved himself more than this guy as you well know............Stop being silly you're better than that !!.

Besides Euro champs have always been given shots and so they should...........

For what it's worth I didn't think Paul smith deserved a shot either....

He's beaten Gary Buckland and that's it..

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:47

He has worked his way up the rankings in the WBC and done what has been asked of him i think he deserves his shot, i really hope he wins

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:52

wheelchair1991 wrote:He has worked his way up the rankings in the WBC and done what has been asked of him i think he deserves his shot, i really hope he wins

So the WBC rankings are all swell and dandy.....

I imagine If you were Colombian..Tomas Molinares rising to number 1 was bonafide too........

Let's stick Joshua at number 1 in the WBC............If they say he is deserving it must be true.....

Who's he beat Wheelie ??.....He's only fought Selby in European class.........who knocked him cold..........

Stop arguing for the sake of it...........Your argument sucks AND you know it !!

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:54

We will have to agree to disagree truss i am glad he is getting a shot

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:54

Let's just give every Brit a shot..........

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:55

So does that include when the rankings were moved around to try and say Floyd (and Manny) were fighting more dangerous opponents than they actually were ???
Wink

We all know the rankings aren't up too much scratch but if Smith (Selby or anyone else for that matter) has done what the governing bodies have asked then why don't they deserve their shot.

Also why is Callum more deserving of a shot than Stephen?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 10:56

Derbymanc wrote:So does that include when the rankings were moved around to try and say Floyd (and Manny) were fighting more dangerous opponents than they actually were ???
Wink

We all know the rankings aren't up too much scratch but if Smith (Selby or anyone else for that matter) has done what the governing bodies have asked then why don't they deserve their shot.

Also why is Callum more deserving of a shot than Stephen?

Why are you happy for this to guy to get a shot..............When on another thread you are moaning about Champions not fighting the best ?? Cool

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:00

No not at all truss but he has built his way back and he has done what the WBC wanted, we all know the ranking leave a lot to be desired but ok who would you give the shot too? One loss and you want to write a fighter off

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:00

I'm happy for anyone to get a shot Truss, I'm firmly of the belief that when your given an opportunity like this you should grab it with both hands.

I'd be a lot happier if we had a better ranking system and that the champions had to fight someone in the top 3 at all times. Unfortunately since we don't we have to put up with what we've got.

Should the champion be given grief for taking what (in your eyes) is a really easy bout, yup he should.
Should the challenger for wanting to beat the best. Definitely not.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:11

I imagine JCC only has to give Suliaman a ring If he wants the number 1 slot.........

ABC rankings are blatantly inept If not corrupt..........and always have been.

It's a poor argument when they are the basis for a supporting case !!

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:15

How is it a poor argument, how about Floyd fighting for a title at a catchweight, do you think that was a travesty too?

How about Floyd retiring for 2 years and being shoved back to the top of the rankings, another travesty???

How about Wilder crawling up the rankings by beating stiffs?

Rankings are garbage, champions should want to fight the best (especially those that try and say they are the best) but if an underdog is given a shot give me ONE reason why we shouldn't get behind them.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:19

Did you know that after Tyson knocked out Berbick..................Berbick was number 1 in the IBF rankings.........

What makes you think I except Floyd in ranking travesties...........Floyd being made number 1 was a travesty......

Which is why I don't take the rankings seriously............

No double standards from me when it comes to ABC lists.............I've seen 35 years of them....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:19

Did you know that after Tyson knocked out Berbick..................Berbick was number 1 in the IBF rankings.........

What makes you think I except Floyd in ranking travesties...........Floyd being made number 1 was a travesty......

Which is why I don't take the rankings seriously............

No double standards from me when it comes to ABC lists.............I've seen 35 years of them....

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:21

Like i said i hope Smith wins and i'm glad he has a shot

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:23

In fairness your support for Brits it's something you're consistent on...... Cool

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Post by wheelchair1991 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:28

Yep it is Smile i just don't think we will agree on this one sadly

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 11:37

So do you think Stephen Smith should hand his shot back then and say 'nahhhh give it someone else'

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Post by KingMonkey Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 12:44

I guess if Gallagher can roll enough dice eventually he'll have trained a world champion.

I don't dislike the lad but I hate the Sky-Gallagher love in.

I hope he gets sparked.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 13:05

Derbymanc wrote:So do you think Stephen Smith should hand his shot back then and say 'nahhhh give it someone else'

I think stephen smith shouldn't be getting a shot...

I don't think I deserve a pay rise...........Because I do sack all ...But I won't be handing that back.


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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 13:17

Exactly, don't berate the little fella for grasping this. Berate the bosses for allowing it to go on.

Unfortunately I don't see a change anytime soon, so until then.

C'mon you little scouse bleeder, bring that title home.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 13:21

Where have I berated smith for taking the shot ??

Do me a favor...

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 13:35

And ask if you need some elppppp..............................

You seem to be doing a fair bit of it up there. Hopefully Lil Smiff will win and usher in a new era of the best taking on the best, screaming at Andre Ward that this is how it's done as he travels the world taking on any and all comers.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 4 Mar 2015 - 13:47

To be honest If ordinary types like Stuart Hall can be called World champ.....

Wonder what the Herol Graham's and Tony Sibson types think about the guys who've won an abc title and aren't fit to lace their boots....

No one said life was fair though !!

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 10:56

Still no news chin

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