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Post by It Must Be Love Sat 11 Apr - 8:16

First topic message reminder :

http://www.montecarlorolexmasters.mc

All the top players are playing, with the exception of Andy Murray, who's busy getting married.

Beautiful tournament, love scenery, and a nice start to the European Clay Court season.

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Post by CAS Fri 17 Apr - 21:20

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CAS wrote:Monfils wins first set 6-1 yet is sucking air big time, stamina is pretty poor for such an incredible athlete. It's what holds him back
He looks more juiced up than Robinsons fruit juice. Not in a negative "doping" way but yes he should get a tournament win this year he's 28 now if he can't take a big title this year he will never get there.

the first game of the second set he was hunched of heavily breathing, drinking water as if it was in the fifth set! He could barely move the first game and Dimitrov had break points, then the Bulgarian just started spraying backhands. I'm convinced if Dimi decided to just not miss Monfils would have struggled. That being said that first set he was a beast, must have been the easiest preparation Gael ever had to do, basically execute the exact same game plan that he did against Federer a day earlier.


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Post by Silver Fri 17 Apr - 21:24

Haddie-nuff wrote:He was outplayed why could he just not admit that

Enjoy:

Federer wrote:“This is not going to put me under too much. I know it's the first tournament on clay. Of course, I was really hoping to do better because I felt there was an opportunity. Unfortunately, Gaël played well today. It was always going to be a tough match.

As he says, it was down to both him and Monfils. It often takes two to tango in a result like this.

Good to see Monfils following it up today though, wow! Awesome result. He must fancy his chances of turning Berdych over on clay.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 21:29

Whoa, these top ten players, easily bageled in matches! What strong era we are talking about? Looks like Cilic is on his way to receiving a bagel now.

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 21:30

Djokovic unstoppable.

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Post by Silver Fri 17 Apr - 21:32

I think it's more Novak than anything else! Even Murray's been picked off for baked goods twice this season.

What a monster.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 21:33

Its more like these players cowed before him. Cilic certainly can play better than that but once he sees Novak across the net, he turns into jelly. Novak hardly needs to do anything special.

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Post by It Must Be Love Fri 17 Apr - 21:34

Cilic is really playing poorly here, Djokovic is very solid which is what he needs to be.

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Post by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr - 21:37

Bagel number 9 inc?

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 17 Apr - 21:39

Borderline criminal that Cilic won a GS last year. Novak is just playing with the entire tour this year like Federer in 2006
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Post by Silver Fri 17 Apr - 21:39

temporary21 wrote:Bagel number 9 inc?

Yup...

Hope he sticks another one past him too.

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 21:47

There's a reason why Djokovic is #1 and surpassed Nadal at # of weeks at #1. No denying how dominant he is right now.

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Post by HM Murdock Fri 17 Apr - 21:47

That was bagel #10 wasn't it?

#9 was yesterday I think.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 21:50

Yeah, Rafa on his comeback was receiving a bagel too, from Berdych of all people. Berdych himself was at the receiving end of bagels, one each from Novak, Fed and Murray!

Stan got one from Novak, Murray got two and Cilic now on his way to getting two in one match!

So much disparity between the top guy or guys and the rest of the top ten players. I wonder how's Cilic feeling right now; to me its more of Cilic playing badly than Novak playing well.

Poor spectators, paying so much but get three poor quality matches so far!

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Post by HM Murdock Fri 17 Apr - 21:51

Novak's 2015 Bagels
Kuznetzov
Wawrinka
Murray x 2
Berdych
Klizan
Darcis
Dolgopolov
Haider-Maurer
Cilic

10 bagels, 5 against top ten opposition.

And it's only April.

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 21:58

How about saving one for Nadal at the FO next month? Laugh

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 22:00

No, its Rafa giving one to Novak, he nearly did that in 2013, 6-1 though. He may do that to Novak this year IF they get to meet.

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Post by Silver Fri 17 Apr - 22:01

Matchpoint wrote:How about saving one for Nadal at the FO next month? Laugh

No chance! I can't see Fedal getting bagelled. Everyone else seems at risk though Shocked

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 22:03

Never say never.Bubbly

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Post by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr - 22:16

Better effort in the second at least

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 22:27

Better still not good enough. Djokovic is from another planet right now. Only a very old guy from a certain imaginary weak era can go toe to toe with him. Wink

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 22:31

You forget the guy who beat him at the FO last year?

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 22:39

I'm talking right now, 4/2015. Let's move on. Every tournament is a new test.

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 17 Apr - 22:44

Ferrer? Wink

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 17 Apr - 22:45

Matchpoint wrote:Better still not good enough. Djokovic is from another planet right now. Only a very old guy from a certain imaginary weak era can go toe to toe with him. Wink

Ferrer? Wink

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 22:47

Phew, I think the audience will finally get their money's worth in this one coming up. It won't be less than 2-3 hours. Monte Carlo Masters thread  - Page 5 1347041234

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 22:51

LuvSports! wrote:
Matchpoint wrote:Better still not good enough. Djokovic is from another planet right now. Only a very old guy from a certain imaginary weak era can go toe to toe with him. Wink

Ferrer? Wink
I wish, but nah, I don't think So. But you never know.


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Post by It Must Be Love Fri 17 Apr - 22:55

If Nadal hit his second serve return with a bit less depth, it would probably bounce on his own side the court.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 23:00

Yeah, but the last time I checked, that old guy was beaten at IW by Novak!

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 23:05

Oh I forget, there's another old guy who beat Novak this year so far - Karlovic!

This Rafa/Ferrer match, doesn't look like it'll go 2-3 hrs!

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Post by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr - 23:06

Im not sure agassi has enough legs to beat Novak nowadays...

Good old fashioned slug fest for the fans to enjoy after a few absolute beatings earlier in the day.

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Post by sirfredperry Fri 17 Apr - 23:14

Well, I was completely wrong saying Monfils would fail to follow up his win over Fed. Only good thing for Dimi is that the official ATP site is featuring a terrific point he won. Looks like he didn't win many other ones though.

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Post by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr - 23:21

Double break... then again Nadal has fallen off in second sets a lot lately, its not over just yet.

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 23:29

No one beats Nadal on clay twice in a row, right? Somehow I don't see Ferrer winning this one.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 23:30

Rafa always has problem closing sets these days, not to mention matches. Its as if he couldnt believe that he's going to win.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr - 23:31

Rafa has already beaten Ferrer at FO last year!

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 17 Apr - 23:35

Djoko did it before.

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Post by Matchpoint Fri 17 Apr - 23:58

Thanks, LS, I was more thinking of other players than Djoko. 
Problem with Ferrer is that he can't usually beat players ranked higher than him. What was nadal's ranking last year when ferrer beat him here last year?

Game over for me. Nadal is the rightful opponent for Djokovic tomorrow.

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Post by kingraf Sat 18 Apr - 0:05

#1 I would assume. Only an assumption mind.

Score beginning to look eerily familiar for Ferrer
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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:08

I really don't like the way Rafa plays these days, very defensive. He's allowing Ferrer to do all the attacking and he's just contented doing the counterpunching. The Rafa who blew everyone away at FO2008 and MC2010, or the one who appeared at NAHC swing in 2013 had disappeared totally.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:13

Oh I suddenly remembers that those years (ie 2008/2010/2013) that the aggressive Rafa appeared were the years when Rafa finished the season as no.1 and winning more than one slam per season.

I really hope to see that Rafa again this year.

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Post by HM Murdock Sat 18 Apr - 0:33

OK, this is getting a bit weird with Rafa now...

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Post by LuvSports! Sat 18 Apr - 0:34

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Post by HM Murdock Sat 18 Apr - 0:36

LuvSports! wrote:?
Getting nervous.

Ferrer broke back with Rafa serving for the match.

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Post by LuvSports! Sat 18 Apr - 0:37

Is that becoming a common occurrence for him?

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:38

Like i said he plays to defensively, serving for the set and then the match, he's so passive.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:39

He's letting the match slips away from his grasp, very disapoointing.

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Post by Matchpoint Sat 18 Apr - 0:45

WHAT??!! Not over yet? Match time just over 2 hrs. 1:1.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:46

Rafa is messing up everything these days, looks like a long road back for him.

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Post by It Must Be Love Sat 18 Apr - 0:51

Nadal played quite well all match then, at 5-4 30-15, disappeared.

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Post by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr - 0:53

Rafa is two breaks up in the second set, yet when serving for the match he faltered and lost serve and then lost again!

There's no guarantee these days that Rafa is going to win the set even when two breaks up!

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