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Post by hampo17 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:31 am

Anybody stayed up for this then?

Andy Lee up first.

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Post by catchweight Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:43 am

Dont fancy Lee at all in this one

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:49 am

Only got the fight with french commentary....very annoying

Dont really rate quillin, but hes better than Lee right hook permitted

But lee will at least test him

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:57 am

Cracking shot by Quillin, lee did well to survive that round, but very lazy defence was far too easy

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 1:58 am

Almost a carbon copy of the knockdown Lee suffered against Jackson there. Countered with a big right over the top of his own. Think the bell saved him there.
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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:04 am

Not convinced that was a legit knockdown....Shame for Lee because he landed some goo stuff in the third and it may have been his round otherwise. Interesting replay between rounds now....
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Post by Happytravelling Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:08 am

Quillin doesn't look comfortable under pressure. But is Lee brave enough to push him?

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:10 am

Have often thought the same when I've watched Quillin, Happytravelling. Looks uneasy when someone really gets at him although unlike the Rosado fight, his body mechanics haven't completely fallen apart when pressured as they did there at times.

Lee didn't do much in the fourth, Quillin did even less.
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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:12 am

Quillin truly back in control in the fifth. Right hand working very nicely and seems to be buckling Lee's knees whenever he lands it down the pipe.
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Post by Happytravelling Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:17 am

Why does Lee keep rotating clockwise onto Quillin's right? Surely, this is pretty basic. Move away from his most potent punch.

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Post by All Time Great Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:20 am

Can I just say- great fight!!

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:21 am

To nick a quote of Mickey Duff's and adapt it here: "Congratulations, Andy, you've just got back in the fight." Down from a right hand counter over his own right in the first, now he repays the compliment in the seventh.

Enjoyable fight, this one.
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Post by Happytravelling Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:25 am

Its a bit frustrating. Lee should be circling anti clockwise, using the jab and right hook.

But, its a good fight. Could go either way.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:29 am

Some close rounds here, with Lee arguably a shade more deserving. If the judges agree then there's a conceivability that the win could still be on if he sweeps the last three. But as I said, the last couple of rounds have been tight. I had the eighth even with Lee edging the ninth.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:33 am

Chris, Farhood on NBC has Quillin a single round up which seems a bit too generous for Lee in my opinion.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:40 am

The last 6 rounds of that fight were awful, seemed a case of who was doing ever so slightly more than the one doing nothing.

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Post by Happytravelling Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:42 am

Given the two early 10-8 rounds, I think Lee has lost this. Especially as he's not the home fighter.

But, I thought he won the last two rounds, relatively clearly.

I want him to win but think the home fighter will get it.

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Post by catchweight Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:42 am

Pretty tame effort by both fighters. Neither really looked to take control of the fight.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:43 am

Don't know, Hammersmith - I could see that if you happened to give Lee the lion's share of the close rounds, and rounds 4, 6, 8, 9 and 12 were pretty tricky ones.

I've got Quillin up 114-113 but could see it being wider due to the nature of the aforementioned rounds. Lee just gave himself a bit too much to do with that horror start in rounds 1-3 in my opinion.
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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:44 am

A draw. No disgrace there in my opinion although I'd say it's ever so slightly kinder to Lee than it is Quillin.

Very interesting fight despite the action trailing off in the last few rounds. Strengths and weaknesses aplenty on show for both guys.
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Post by hampo17 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:45 am

Fair play to Lee for fighting back from the two early knockdowns but Quillin threw that fight away really. I honestly expected the judges to have some pretty daft cards.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:45 am

A split decision draw, considering Quillin did nothing after the 5th round knockdown can't have too many complaints.

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Post by Strongback Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:45 am

Only saw the second half of the fight, poor enough stuff.  

Lee will be happy enough.

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Post by Happytravelling Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:46 am

GGG would blast either out the ring and Murray would manhandle the two of them all night.

But, good for Andy. I am glad he gets to make a bit more money.

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Post by catchweight Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:46 am

Fair result. Quillen didnt really deserve to win the way he just coasted looking for single shots and Lee averageness was rewarded.

I would be raging if I was in Qullens corner. Didnt listen to a word they said and boxed like a man whoi thought he had already won.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:47 am

Yeah Hampo, good to see a fight returning three perfectly reasonable and sensible cards. 113-112 to each guy and then a 113-113 to even things up looks pretty much in line with the kind of scores we've all got.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 2:48 am

Now we move on to the most pointless fight of the year.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:02 am

Peterson- 165lbs
Garcia- 157lbs

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:12 am

Peterson rehydrated 22lbs? Bloody hell

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:17 am

Have always thought that Garcia ain't the best at chasing a fight or forcing the issue. Peterson isn't committing enough to win the rounds but Garcia has looked pretty toothless so far.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:20 am

Peterson is literally running at points but Garcia seems completely baffled by the smallest bit of foot movement, these Haymon cards are turning out to be tosh so far.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:41 am

Rawling and Jones definitely seem to have a bit of a sway towards Peterson here. Garcia's body shots are hardly getting a mention. Guess I'm missing the "brilliant" performance from Peterson they're talking about.

That said, Garcia needs a round soon to re-establish himself here. In danger of letting it get away.
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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:50 am

Well, while I'm not as overwhelmed with Peterson as the BoxNation team are, no denying he's won the tenth and eleventh pretty big. If he does the same in the twelfth he may well get this - and my heart will sink a little.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:52 am

115-113 Peterson for me Chris, with no titles on the line what does it really matter.

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Post by 88Chris05 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:55 am

Oh dear, technical clanger as we hear that "Garcia has it by majority decision" unintentionally from the MC before it's officially announced. I've got Peterson a point up.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:56 am

Starting to think Garcia is the luckiest boxer around at the moment, whilst a close fight I can't make an argument for him winning that.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:58 am

I turned it off after 7, couldn't bring myself to watch anymore of that garbage. By the sounds of it though Garcia gets yet another lucky decision, I make that 3 now I believe.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 3:59 am

One good thing to come from that decision though is that Peterson now loses the IBF title.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:00 am

Khan deserves shooting for losing to both of these guys.

Theophane, Herrera and now Peterson, starting to reassess the Judah, Khan and Matthyse fights now as well.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:01 am

hampo171 wrote:One good thing to come from that decision though is that Peterson now loses the IBF title.

No he doesn't Hampo, he'll be free to defend it against second tier opponents until his next catchweight fight against anyone decent.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:02 am

IBF announced earlier this week that they'd strip him of the title should he lose HH.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:06 am

I'll believe that when I see, they will no doubt make an excuse for him like they've been doing for the past three years now.

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Post by All Time Great Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:11 am

hampo171 wrote:I turned it off after 7, couldn't bring myself to watch anymore of that garbage. By the sounds of it though Garcia gets yet another lucky decision, I make that 3 now I believe.

Actually a very entertaining last 4/5 rounds. You missed out

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 4:13 am

Wow yet another lucky win for Garcia. Such a shame.

Got to go down as one of the luckiest champions ever.

Peterson won for me 115-112.

Think he does lose the title Hammer according to earlier reports but like you say, believe it when we see it.

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Post by Atila Sun 12 Apr 2015, 9:11 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Peterson- 165lbs
Garcia- 157lbs
Wow, so if we still had same day weigh ins, Garcia would most likely be fighting at light middle and Peterson at middleweight?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 12 Apr 2015, 9:23 am

Am i the only one that thought Lee/Quillin was FOTY!?!? I was going spare!!

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Post by Guest Sun 12 Apr 2015, 9:43 am

Josh Warrington - A nation of rice puddings sleep safely in their skins

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 12 Apr 2015, 9:59 am

Haha, he's getting pretty big up here now is Josh. Just think he's limited with his power being so minimal.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sun 12 Apr 2015, 10:10 am

Haven't seen the fight yet but by Garcia's comments- 'the weight has been affecting my performances,' sounds like he's been fortunate again. Although you see the odd whisper he hasn't been quite the same since  Matthysse. Not saying there's any truth in that mind.

It does rankle however how fighters are allowed to rehydrate so that invariably these days  they are coming into a bout weighing one and sometimes even two weight classes above. The disparity in weight that can occur between two opponents is also a cause for irritation.

I think most of us are all for 24hr weigh ins which are clearly a whole lot safer but is it now time to readdress the whole situation and introduce as standard rehydration limits, say 10lbs?

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Post by tunes666 Sun 12 Apr 2015, 10:19 am

hampo171 wrote:I turned it off after 7, couldn't bring myself to watch anymore of that garbage. By the sounds of it though Garcia gets yet another lucky decision, I make that 3 now I believe.
what was his other two lucky decisions?

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